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  • Midwestbolt
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    #1081
    So a couple observations from watching the game live and rewatching it tonight when we got back:

    A low scoring first half wasnt surprising. Indy has a good D and played well. I thought indy had a plan and goal to really limit downfield chances.

    offensively, the chargers tried to take what was given and for the most part succeded. Short stuff early and as the game went on, the middle of the field began to open up between the zones.

    I dont think you can paint with a broad brush and say all the struggles on offense is play design. Wiffing on blocks for a sure 1st down, penalties, or just flat out allowing too much pressure is execution, plain and simple.

    that said, it seemed like more than a couple times there were too many receivers in too small an area, and defenses are keying in on the "run to the line to gain and turn around" play as well.

    As awesome as that pass on the flea flicker was, i hated the call. The defender wasnt really fooled and was only a step or so behind the play. If that isn't a perfect throw its probably defensed. not a fan of lombardi needing to put in some kind of trick or gadget etc play in almost every game. I exaggerate a bit, but he has done a number of them.

    the chargers D played well. Really seem to be clicking, especially situationally. Im not a big Staley fan, but he has them focused right now. The colts are an offensively challenged team, but still, limiting an NFL team to 3 isnt easy.

    Good win. Penalties, turnovers, pass pro kept the game closer than it needed to be. But the bolts are in.

    On to the Rams.

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    • Ghost of Quacksaw
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      #1082
      Originally posted by Midwestbolt View Post

      As awesome as that pass on the flea flicker was, i hated the call. The defender wasnt really fooled and was only a step or so behind the play. If that isn't a perfect throw its probably defensed. I am not a fan of lombardi needing to put in some kind of gadget play in almost every game.
      That play came within a quarter-inch of being a TD, and as it was, secured the necessary 1st Down.

      The occasional gadget play helps keep defenses honest. I'd like to see an average of 1 every two games, if not 2 every 3 games.

      That, IMO, would not be over-doing it.

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      • Boltnut
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        #1083
        Originally posted by Cdn Bolt View Post

        Fine. 5.3 ypr is a fact and it is bad is not an opinion unless you think that is good somehow
        5.3 ypc is a stat. It is neither bad nor good as it is not a measure of your ability to win a game.

        Of the top-10 run defenses in the NFL, only 4 of them are going to make the playoffs.
        Of the bottom 10 run defenses in the NFL, 3 (maybe 4) will make the playoffs... 1 of those teams currently has the best record in football.

        What do the stats tell us...? Absolutely nothing!

        If you want to look at an interesting stat, look at passing offense. Of the top-10 nearly all of them are playoff bound (with only the Seahawks and Lions on the bubble).
        #1 Chiefs
        #2 Dolphins
        #3 Bengals
        #4 Chargers
        #7 Bills
        Any of these teams look familiar to you...?
        Maybe we should be talking about pass defense...
        Of those 5... I know who has the better pass defense...
        Protect the QB
        Run the ball
        Play great defense

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        • ChargingBolts
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          #1084
          I was at the game, a good amount of Charger fans ... but ... being to many "home" games in L.A. we were way too polite, I was just at that Dolphin game and those fans were loud and rowdy until we took them out of the game, (I'm sure fans that have been to Raider games know what I mean) you could hear a pin drop in Indy, I feel the only person hollering was me occasionally. I would of liked to go to that game in Glendale AZ that seemed that was the best road crowd we've ever got, anyone at that game?

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          • dmac_bolt
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            #1085
            Originally posted by Boltnut View Post

            5.3 ypc is a stat. It is neither bad nor good as it is not a measure of your ability to win a game.

            Of the top-10 run defenses in the NFL, only 4 of them are going to make the playoffs.
            Of the bottom 10 run defenses in the NFL, 3 (maybe 4) will make the playoffs... 1 of those teams currently has the best record in football.

            What do the stats tell us...? Absolutely nothing!

            If you want to look at an interesting stat, look at passing offense. Of the top-10 nearly all of them are playoff bound (with only the Seahawks and Lions on the bubble).
            #1 Chiefs
            #2 Dolphins
            #3 Bengals
            #4 Chargers
            #7 Bills
            Any of these teams look familiar to you...?
            Maybe we should be talking about pass defense...
            Of those 5... I know who has the better pass defense...
            Rush dominant teams were more valuable when scores were 17-13. That won’t cut it in most modern football games. I agree we can win with a 5ypc depending on the how and why it occurs. Last night, 5ypc was no big deal at all as analyzed above and when stops were really needed, they played the rush much tighter. Indy would have rushed more if they thought they could win rushing the ball.

            Titans tried to beat us rushing the ball, it didnt work. it has worked in the past.

            I won’t be surprised if MIA falls completely out of the playoffs. Partly because they aren’t passing as well now. Surprised bills are only #7.
            Justin Herbert 2026 MVP Watch

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            • Cdn Bolt
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              #1086
              Originally posted by Xenos View Post

              And 69 yards only and no points is good. That’s a fact.

              Edit: also according to ESPN it’s 4.9 ypr. So the 5.3 ypr you stated is actually not a fact.
              Our avg is 5.3 ypr allowed for the season on ESPN for the 2022 season. Maybe you typed in the wrong year.2022 NFL Team Rushing Defense Stats | ESPN​ 5.3 ypr 2nd worst in the league is crap. Yardage means nothing. If you are unable or unwilling to see that that is your problem so ciao
              Last edited by Cdn Bolt; 12-27-2022, 08:57 PM.

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              • Cdn Bolt
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                #1087
                Originally posted by Boltnut View Post

                5.3 ypc is a stat. It is neither bad nor good as it is not a measure of your ability to win a game.

                Of the top-10 run defenses in the NFL, only 4 of them are going to make the playoffs.
                Of the bottom 10 run defenses in the NFL, 3 (maybe 4) will make the playoffs... 1 of those teams currently has the best record in football.

                What do the stats tell us...? Absolutely nothing!

                If you want to look at an interesting stat, look at passing offense. Of the top-10 nearly all of them are playoff bound (with only the Seahawks and Lions on the bubble).
                #1 Chiefs
                #2 Dolphins
                #3 Bengals
                #4 Chargers
                #7 Bills
                Any of these teams look familiar to you...?
                Maybe we should be talking about pass defense...
                Of those 5... I know who has the better pass defense...
                You should read some ATS stats. The probability of winning a game giving up 140+ yds and 5.34 ypr are < 20%. I don't care how you people spin it you normally don't win if you can't stop the run. We are winning beating up shitty teams so lets get real here. All I am saying is don't be shocked if we get destroyed facing a real team but I hope I am wrong.

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                • Boltnut
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                  #1088
                  Originally posted by Cdn Bolt View Post

                  You should read some ATS stats. The probability of winning a game giving up 140+ yds and 5.34 ypr are < 20%. I don't care how you people spin it you normally don't win if you can't stop the run. We are winning beating up shitty teams so lets get real here. All I am saying is don't be shocked if we get destroyed facing a real team but I hope I am wrong.
                  Real teams throw the ball. That's just the way the NFL is right now... in the AFC anyways.
                  Protect the QB
                  Run the ball
                  Play great defense

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                  • 21&500
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                    #1089
                    Anyone notice the play Alohi made on the Colt's stupid decision to qb sneak on 4th and 1 when a chip shot figgie makes it a 1 score game?
                    dude jumped over the pile and uses his hand to pull back on Foles' jersey to keep him from getting the first down.
                    that is some Palumalo stuff.
                    "The best defense is more offense."
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                    • Ghost of Quacksaw
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                      #1090
                      Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
                      Anyone notice the play Alohi made on the Colt's stupid decision to qb sneak on 4th and 1 when a chip shot figgie makes it a 1 score game?
                      dude jumped over the pile and uses his hand to pull back on Foles' jersey to keep him from getting the first down.
                      that is some Palumalo stuff.
                      Me! Me! I noticed! lol

                      He's a smart guy, and a 'football player'. I can see why Staley likes him.

                      Here's an Alohi Gilman story I like, and that I'm certain not everyone has heard.

                      When Drue Tranquill was going through pre-draft interviews at the combine, he was asked "If you could take ANY college teammate of yours with you to the NFL, who would it be?"

                      Tranquill's answer was Alohi Gilman.

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                      • Xenos
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                        #1091
                        Originally posted by Cdn Bolt View Post

                        Our avg is 5.3 ypr allowed for the season on ESPN for the 2022 season. Maybe you typed in the wrong year.2022 NFL Team Rushing Defense Stats | ESPN​ 5.3 ypr 2nd worst in the league is crap. Yardage means nothing. If you are unable or unwilling to see that that is your problem so ciao
                        I was talking about the Colts game this entire time because that’s what you were talking about lol.
                        Last edited by Xenos; 12-28-2022, 07:35 AM.

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                        • Xenos
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                          #1092
                          Originally posted by jamrock View Post

                          Did the refs blow the whistle? I don’t think so but that would have prevented any replay review. I don’t remember Aikman or Buck saying the whistle blew the play dead and Keenan and the Colts DB acted like there wasn’t a whistle
                          It was also under two minutes so Staley couldn’t challenge it. Here’s a closer look at the 45 second mark. What do you all think?

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