Rams @ Chargers Pregame Thread (Wk 17)

[sonorajim]

Would Mike Munchak be coaxed into coming out of retirement to not live in Denver? Might be worth a call - though the Broncos still might own his "rights" -

I think OC and OL coach need to be upgraded for sure

My guess is Staley will think bigger than status quo or making the playoffs

Nugent looked like a top guy after his work in NO. Might just be too much personnel inconsistency in his 1st yr here. I've read- 6 different OL groups.

OC- I don't know. Staley and Herbert need to sign off on change. HC- OC- Star QB have to be on the same page.
I'm not a big Lombardi supporter, or anti. Just want HC-OC-QB working together to improve and getting it done.

Changing people isn't always best. Instant satisfaction is not guaranteed.

[dmac_bolt]

Bosa has been activated!

Their website still shows designated, not active. Doubt they announce until game roster has to be announced. Good news is he is coming back, now its just which week. We can beat LAR without him, they suck ramdick.

[blueman]

So beautiful these days to be a Chargers fan! We have a HC and system that wrapped up a ticket to the playoffs with 2 weeks left in the season! We have a QB as good as any QB in the league, and we have A Defense that day by day in every way is getting better and better!!!!!!!

Was just thinking the same, nice to still be relevant this late in the season. Playoffs!

[dmac_bolt]

Was just thinking the same, nice to still be relevant this late in the season. Playoffs!

Its wonderful and exciting. Been too long.

[QSmokey]

So you’ll rest players once they get injured.

If you go through a season cowering behind the possibility of players getting injured, why even bother fielding a team? Like I said, it's a balancing act. And who knows? You rest guy(s) to keep them fresh for the playoffs and maybe some scrub on the OL gets Herbie or Ekeler injured just because he's in there instead of the starter. You can't predict injuries. And I'd prefer not to turtle up, particularly since there is still something to play for. Don't you think there's an advantage to the #5 seed (best case scenario) as opposed to the 7th (worst case)? I do. And you're not going to do anything for the continuity on offense - an area we still need to improve if we expect anything more than a one-and-done - by resting starters who are healthy.

[dmac_bolt]

If you go through a season cowering behind the possibility of players getting injured, why even bother fielding a team? Like I said, it's a balancing act. And who knows? You rest guy(s) to keep them fresh for the playoffs and maybe somebody scrub on the OL gets Herbie or Ekeler injured just because he's in there instead of the starter. You can't predict injuries. And I'd prefer not to turtle up, particularly since there is still something to play for. Don't you think there's an advantage to the #5 seed (best case scenario) as opposed to the 7th (worst case)? I do. And you're not going to do anything for the continuity on offense - an area we still need to improve if we expect anything more than a one-and-done - by resting starters who are healthy.

Excellent point except we’re not going through a full season now. We have two games left and we clinched a playoff spot so you pose an equation that doesn’t apply. You’ve never see an end-of-year game where a team that clinched the playoffs sat their best starters? Because KC has done it against the Chargers more than once and you’ve been a Charger fan since the advent of face masks. Oh, and we lost to their backup team.

I do think there’s an advantage to #5, I get the opposing theory completely. I think healthy rested stars has more value. Its a judgement and a guess as nobody can test both theories side by side with the same team to find out which is better. All I know is we have had a LOT of injuries, and were able to get to the dance despite it all. Now we have key players coming back and above all, I want them available for the playoffs.

I think imagining the offense will miraculously take a quantum leap by playing every star v LAR and DEN is sophistry. I would play Slater if he could come back to build OL cohesion, beyond that I don’t quite buy the argument. Thats just me too. How about a balance somewhere between the two extremes? Injuries are random probability, the more plays taken the higher the cumulative probability. Thats just math too.

[blueman]

I think imagining the offense will miraculously take a quantum leap by playing every star v LAR and DEN is sophistry. I would play Slater if he could come back to build OL cohesion, beyond that I don’t quite buy the argument. Thats just me too. How about a balance somewhere between the two extremes? Injuries are random probability, the more plays taken the higher the cumulative probability. Thats just math too.

I think we can all sign off on that. Nope, nah, not gonna happen.

[electricgold]

Nugent looked like a top guy after his work in NO. Might just be too much personnel inconsistency in his 1st yr here. I've read- 6 different OL groups.

OC- I don't know. Staley and Herbert need to sign off on change. HC- OC- Star QB have to be on the same page.
I'm not a big Lombardi supporter, or anti. Just want HC-OC-QB working together to improve and getting it done.

Changing people isn't always best. Instant satisfaction is not guaranteed.

Let's say we win the Superbowl, I'm not saying we are but let's say if we do, would you still want to fire coaches? Doesn't make sense to think along these lines at this point? We really have to wait and see how this team comes together once the playoffs start.

[blueman]

Let's say we win the Superbowl, I'm not saying we are but let's if we do, would you still want to fire coaches? Doesn't make sense to think like along these lines at this point? We really have to wait and see how this team comes together once the playoffs start.

That would mean Lombo has dialed up plays no one has ever seen. Possible, who knows.

[Maniaque 6]

That would mean Lombo has dialed up plays no one has ever seen. Possible, who knows.

Very possible.

[QSmokey]

Excellent point except we’re not going through a full season now. We have two games left and we clinched a playoff spot so you pose an equation that doesn’t apply. You’ve never see an end-of-year game where a team that clinched the playoffs sat their best starters? Because KC has done it against the Chargers more than once and you’ve been a Charger fan since the advent of face masks. Oh, and we lost to their backup team.

I do think there’s an advantage to #5, I get the opposing theory completely. I think healthy rested stars has more value. Its a judgement and a guess as nobody can test both theories side by side with the same team to find out which is better. All I know is we have had a LOT of injuries, and were able to get to the dance despite it all. Now we have key players coming back and above all, I want them available for the playoffs.

I think imagining the offense will miraculously take a quantum leap by playing every star v LAR and DEN is sophistry. I would play Slater if he could come back to build OL cohesion, beyond that I don’t quite buy the argument. Thats just me too. How about a balance somewhere between the two extremes? Injuries are random probability, the more plays taken the higher the cumulative probability. Thats just math too.

Games where starters are rested have, by and large (if not entirely) been made by teams locked into a particular seeding. We're not, so the season really isn't over for us. There is something to play for, something important, at least to me.

I don't think there's anything "miraculous" about the offense making strides; hell, I think they HAVE to make strides or we're a sure one-and-done. No sophistry intended. 24, 17, and 20 points (our last three games totals) are not going to be beat the likes of Buffalo, Cincy, or KC, IMO. So there is still work to be done on offense. And our defense has not been THAT dominant that we can be sure we'll shut down 3 of the top offenses in the playoffs. Miami was the ONLY good offense we shut down all season.

But we're quibbling. I get the argument that you have best chance with the most starters you can have available. A catastrophic injury to Herbie, KA, Mack, etc...that would truly suck. And would probably take years off your life . I just don't like taking my foot off the gas pedal when it's taken damn near a full season for the team to finally start playing some good football.

[Stinky Wizzleteats+]

I want the whole team playing to win. It's when you play not to get injured that you get injured...