Originally posted by Velo
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Thoughts On Cutting Keenan Allen?
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Originally posted by Velo View Post
Who are you going to replace Keenan with on the Chargers’ roster?
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Originally posted by jamrock View Post
I’m sure chiefs fans said the same thing about Hill. These guys don’t play forever. At some point everybody has to be replaced. Question is when do you do it
and Chiefs. Chiefs have Reid, Mahomes and Kelce. The Chargers have Staley, Herbert and ?.
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Originally posted by ghost View Post
Because you deserve a real answer....You really should pop into the Chargers draft thread where I rank my choices at OT, WR, TE, & DT. I posit going OT in the first and drafting WR in the later rounds as it is deep in WRs. Come join the discussion on offense.
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Originally posted by charger1_sj View Post
Some people claim the talent at WR drops off a cliff after the first 5 or so guys. Who to believe?
As for me, I like to write on my day off and I bought some great coffee.
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Originally posted by ghost View Post
Spend some time with Boltnut and Texan Beer Lover posts in the draft threads and there is more in-depth discussion on these later round WR prospects. You'll see what we're on about in the RT in the 1st and WR in the later rounds we are passionately advocating.
As for me, I like to write on my day off and I bought some great coffee.
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Originally posted by Velo View Post
Who are you going to replace Keenan with on the Chargers’ roster?
Cut Allen, Cut Mack. Offer Allen $~6-7m a year & bring Van Noy back at ~$5m a year.
Landry signed for $3m last year, is the same type of player Allen is, and isn't $12m worse than Allen. He's a really good player.
You can get most of Macks production with Van Noy for $15m+ cheaper.
Basically guys just ask yourself what would Belichik do?
We need more players like Van Noy, Bryce Callahan, DeAndre Carter, Morgan Fox.....that type of football player.
This football team has a permanent annual habit most years of avoiding the middle class entirely. They have stars & then complete slapdicks. Most years they have entire position groups of slapdicks that aren't even practice squad caliber. Then the injury bug hits and they have no depth and get completely wiped out.
I'd rather let Allen go and bring back Van Noy, Tranquil and Pipkins vs having Allen back and losing those guys and opening up week 1 with a Foster Sarell at right tackle & Troy Reeder starting at LB.
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Originally posted by charger1_sj View Post
Just a question. You honestly believe a late round WR in this draft will replace Allen?
2022 1 1 21 21 Trent McDuffie DB Washington 2 1 30 30 George Karlaftis DE Purdue 3 2 22 54 Skyy Moore WR Western Michigan 4 2 30 62 Bryan Cook DB Cincinnati 5 3 39 103 Leo Chenal LB Wisconsin 6 4 30 135 Joshua Williams DB Fayetteville State 7 5 2 145 Darian Kinnard T Kentucky 8 7 22 243 Jaylen Watson DB Washington State 9 7 30 251 Isaih Pacheco RB Rutgers 10 7 38 259 Nazeeh Johnson DB Marshall
2022 1 1 24 24 Tyler Smith T Tulsa 2 2 24 56 Sam Williams DE Mississippi 3 3 24 88 Jalen Tolbert WR South Alabama 4 4 24 129 Jake Ferguson TE Wisconsin 5 5 12 155 Matt Waletzko T North Dakota 6 5 24 167 DaRon Bland DB Fresno State 7 5 33 176 Damone Clark LB Louisiana State 8 5 35 178 John Ridgeway DT Arkansas 9 6 14 193 Devin Harper LB Oklahoma State
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Originally posted by ghost View Post
Did losing WR1 Tyreek Hill sink the 2023 Chiefs or did their later round draft picks at the skill position secure another world championship?
Did the Dallas Cowboys go in the tank on offense as predicted by the nattering nabobs of negativity when they lost OL La'el Collins, WR Amari Cooper, and WR Cedrick Wilson?
IMO, both KC and Dallas reloaded on offense and defense with excellent drafts and achieved playoff berths, both surpassing the pervious seasons' results. Same story with Seattle. Built their lines first, then went to the playoffs.
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The Chiefs also brought in Juju Schuster-Smith + Marquez Valdes-Scantling in FA and Kadarius Toney through trade at WR. It wasn't just the draft.
Toney’s heroics, and receiver JuJu Smith-Schuster’s performance in the fourth quarter, once again showed that the Chiefs could win despite the departure of star receiver Tyreek Hill, who was traded to the Miami Dolphins during the offseason.
Last spring, the Chiefs signed Smith-Schuster — a former Long Beach Poly High and USC star — and Marquez Valdes-Scantling but they still desired more speed.
So they traded for Toney in late October.
Toney, 24, was the 20th pick by the New York Giants in the 2021 draft, but injuries and other issues characterized his short stay in New York.
As a rookie, he caught 39 passes for 420 yards and no touchdowns in 10 games. The Chiefs gave up for a 2023 third-round compensatory pick and a 2023 sixth-round pick to give them another speedy option, and he caught 14 passes for 171 yards and two touchdowns in seven games.
On Sunday, he did not have a target until Mahomes found him wide open on the right side for a touchdown.
After the Eagles went three and out, Toney caught a punt, started to his left, and then broke to his right. He ran down the sideline in front of the Eagles’ bench to the five, setting up Skyy Moore’s short touchdown catch to put the Chiefs ahead 35-27 with 9:22 left.
Toney said special teams coordinator Dave Toub had been “drilling in our head all week, ‘Nobody ever did anything punt return-wise or whatever in the Super Bowl.’”
So he took upon himself to change that.
“I just tried to show ‘em,” Toney said, “I ain’t played in it yet.”
Smith-Schuster had only two catches through the first three quarters, but Mahomes started the fourth quarter with a 14-yard pass to him and then found him twice more to set up the touchdown pass to Toney. Smith-Schuster also caught two passes during the game-winning drive.
“It’s just the opportunity, when it presents itself, you take full advantage,” said Smith-Schuster, who caught seven passes for 53 yards.
“I’m not the type of guy who cares about stats, catches, who gets the ball, whatnot.
“All I care about is winning, and when you win everyone’s so happy. But I’m glad I got the opportunity to make the plays I can for my team and to put us in position to win this game.”
- LATimes
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