Ekeler: Negotiated Incentives for 2023 Contract Year

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  • Bolt4Knob
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    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

    Waive Austin Ekeler, since no trade is feasible. Draft Jahmyr Gibbs or Tajae Spears or Sean Tucker or...

    Austin has fumblitis, as did MG III. Wearing down is inevitable. The TDs are definitely a product of his explosion, but we are best served by moving on, with mixed emotions, but knowledge of what is wise, in context.


    They just cannot have a situation where he is not committed. He needs to go to another team. If there was a trade offer last Tueday, the Chargers should have pulled the trigger and not hold out for value or whatever

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    • 21&500
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      Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

      Waive Austin Ekeler, since no trade is feasible. Draft Jahmyr Gibbs or Tajae Spears or Sean Tucker or...

      Austin has fumblitis, as did MG III. Wearing down is inevitable. The TDs are definitely a product of his explosion, but we are best served by moving on, with mixed emotions, but knowledge of what is wise, in context.


      I'd rather have him for a handful of games this year if he indeed decides to holdout, distraction be dammed.
      the message is clear, you're expected to play out the contract you sign.
      Chargers vs. Everyone

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      • Bolt4Knob
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        Originally posted by 21&500 View Post

        I'd rather have him for a handful of games this year if he indeed decides to holdout, distraction be dammed.
        the message is clear, you're expected to play out the contract you sign.
        How did that work out when Melvin showed up late
        or when Vincent Jackson showed up in week 11

        That doesn't work out all the time

        The reason he wants to get paid now and not in the future as he knows his numbers will probably go down and he will be a free agent based on 2023. And I get it - he was smart to ask. But his true value is probably 65 catches and maybe 400 yards rushing. His stats were more than his contract the last two years but moving forward, he will be right in line

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        • richpjr
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          Doesn't sound like he is planning on doing what Jackson or Gordon did.

          "But for me, it's like, if there's an opportunity to get more value, than why would you not jump on that? Why would you not at least try out the options? And worst-case scenario -- it's not even a worst-case, really -- but, OK, go play on the last year of your deal in L.A., then become a free agent."

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          • dmac_bolt
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            Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

            How did that work out when Melvin showed up late
            or when Vincent Jackson showed up in week 11

            That doesn't work out all the time

            The reason he wants to get paid now and not in the future as he knows his numbers will probably go down and he will be a free agent based on 2023. And I get it - he was smart to ask. But his true value is probably 65 catches and maybe 400 yards rushing. His stats were more than his contract the last two years but moving forward, he will be right in line
            This is exactly why he will ball out for LAC this year. Everyone relax, he knows the MG story even better than you do, that created his opportunity for his big break in the NFL.

            No release, no trade for a lousy 6th or 7th, no quarter. He’s found out the market is not what he thought, now he has time to adjust to reality and accept his LAC contract is fair before OTAs and TC. Play or sit in your rock room making podcasts for a tiny fraction of what you’d be paid to show up and play.
            “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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            • wu-dai clan
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              Originally posted by richpjr View Post

              For this year, we are best served bringing him back at his current contract. Cutting your best non-QB skill player with no replacement on the roster just opens another hole in a thin roster position and is definitely not a prudent football decision.
              It's simple.
              I agree to disagree.
              We do not play modern football.

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              • wu-dai clan
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                Originally posted by 21&500 View Post

                I'd rather have him for a handful of games this year if he indeed decides to holdout, distraction be dammed.
                the message is clear, you're expected to play out the contract you sign.
                1. Shut your piehole, Austin.
                2. Sleep with your arms wrapped around a football, ala Tiki Barber.
                We do not play modern football.

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                • Bolt4Knob
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                  Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                  It's simple.
                  I agree to disagree.
                  Agree with you Wu

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                  • Boltjolt
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                    Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                    It all depends on his mindset. He cannot be a hold out and show up Labor Day. I was watching NFLNetwork this morning for a few minutes and they were talking about Ekeler - and basically it was "stats driven." Brandt mentioned all the catches and touchdowns. My thought was Brandt just watched hte highlights - because, again, not blaimng Ekeler - but the Chargers offense last year was sluggish and very station to station. thats not Ekelers fault but the Chargers cannot pay him in the future for what he did. He was a UDFA so was paid the minimum for three years and now this contract. I get why he is asking - but I also get why the Chargers are hesistant to pay him. Granted, he should be pissed as they still paid Keenan Allen 19m when that was also based ona few years ago
                    He never said he would hold out. In fact he said he would play out his final season if no trade is made and test free agency.

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                    • 21&500
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                      Originally posted by richpjr View Post
                      Doesn't sound like he is planning on doing what Jackson or Gordon did.
                      I remember catching this little nugget live, he just spelled out his intention and lost whatever leverage he had there.
                      he'll be back, its just a matter of how motivated he'll be.
                      My guess is that while he's talking tough now, he'll want to ball out during the season for a chance at the biggest bag next year.
                      he's not lazy gaither, it's in his nature to work hard and he'll revert to that.
                      Chargers vs. Everyone

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                      • Velo
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                        • dmac_bolt
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                          Originally posted by 21&500 View Post

                          I remember catching this little nugget live, he just spelled out his intention and lost whatever leverage he had there.
                          he'll be back, its just a matter of how motivated he'll be.
                          My guess is that while he's talking tough now, he'll want to ball out during the season for a chance at the biggest bag next year.
                          he's not lazy gaither, it's in his nature to work hard and he'll revert to that.
                          Not only is it not his nature, he’s too smart to do it. He saw the MG debacle first hand and how it ruined his teammate’s career. He can add 2+2. He can’t Gaizy it if he wants a contract in 2024, it that simple and he knows it. he might know he’s sloughing but he knows the world will see he hit the RB wall and is sliding down the hill to discarded oblivion. Good luck convincing GMs that “no, i really am still top shelf with my best still ahead of me, close your eyes and don’t look at 2023, i swear I just wasn’t trying”.

                          no - he HAS to ball out to achieve his goal. He is one of the most goal oriented players in the league and he always applies the work discipline and effort needed to achieve his goals. He is more likely to try even harder to prove his truth to the football world.
                          “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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