Chargers @ Vikings Official Game Day Thread / Post Game Reaction (Wk 3)

[21&500]

I may have been confused, I thought it was Spiller out there for most the pass blocking.
I'll rewatch during the bye when I have more time.

[cmplxgal]

Nothing makes me think it's a good idea to do anything but punt when you're at your own 24. Staley gave the Vikings a very short field to go win the game. Combine this with the playoffs fiasco, and I favor firing Staley. On top of that, he said he'd do it again. Get us an experienced HC!

FWIW, analytics say that going for it increased the Chargers' win probabilty by 8-10%:

Now, that play call ... That's another matter altogether. But whether to go for it, and if so what play to run, are separate issues.

[ghost]

This is Popper's explanation of the 4th and one play call:

The 4th-and-1. Playcall was a fullback dive to the RB. RT Trey Pipkens completely whiffed, and went to his knees. RG Jamaree Salyer got one arm on his man and TE Donald Parham missed his block. Three critical blocking miscues by the right side of the offensive line on the most important rep of the game.

Secondly, That lunatic Viking DC Flores blitzed the Chargers nearly 85% in the passing game and the same in the run game. Flores established that run-blitzing the Chargers kills the run game. How Kellen Moore counters that is why I am excited about Sunday. Raiders won't blitz as often. No way.

[ghost]

ghost this probably explains why the run game couldn’t get it going on Sunday.

To a 'T', brother. Couldn't for the life of me figure it out without All-22 tape. Now we know. #Flores #BlitzHappy

[ghost]

Since you are posting the good stuff this afternoon, I am contrasting Dallas's #1 ranking in redzone efficiency in 2022, with is now 27th, as Dak Prescott converted 1 of 5 redzone trips into TDs against Arizona. Dak is not quick-twitch like Herbert, he is slow and meandering, no sense of urgency, and it is self-evident on tape.

Dak cannot make that throw, either. McCarthy added a FB to make up for Ez. Elliott as he was the best short yardage back in the league. N.E. signed E.E. went from 32nd to 8th in redzone efficiency.

[charger1_sj]

FWIW, analytics say that going for it increased the Chargers' win probabilty by 8-10%:

Now, that play call ... That's another matter altogether. But whether to go for it, and if so what play to run, are separate issues.

Ben Baldwin is a writer and football analyst. He's never played or coached one down in the NFL. Analytics are useful in sports. But they
cannot determine human fallacy which is big part of any sports. Analytics cannot predetermine that 3 of your O line guys are going to
miss their blocks. It doesn't take account of the pressure situation put on the players. In that situation especially the offense. Fail and
you get all the blame. On D, nobody expects you to stop a 1 yard play. Analytics relies heavily on certain stats and then computes
probability from those stats. In some situations it is useless unless using real time A1, which would account for way more information.

Staley would do well to take human psychology class to balance out his analytics class.
And by the way Jimmy Johnson and many others that have coached or played in the NFL disagree with the decision.

[21&500]

MVmothaphuckingP

[dmac_bolt]

Ben Baldwin is a writer and football analyst. He's never played or coached one down in the NFL. Analytics are useful in sports. But they
cannot determine human fallacy which is big part of any sports. Analytics cannot predetermine that 3 of your O line guys are going to
miss their blocks. It doesn't take account of the pressure situation put on the players. In that situation especially the offense. Fail and
you get all the blame. On D, nobody expects you to stop a 1 yard play. Analytics relies heavily on certain stats and then computes
probability from those stats. In some situations it is useless unless using real time A1, which would account for way more information.

Staley would do well to take human psychology class to balance out his analytics class.
And by the way Jimmy Johnson and many others that have coached or played in the NFL disagree with the decision.

Jimmy Johnson coached before computers were invented. It took his assts too long to calculate on his abacus so he didnt use analytics.

I disagree its a completely black and white judgement. Hindsight is always very clear, thats easy.

[Xenos]

But doesn't explain why they went for it on 4th and 1. Analytics you say. I thought it was supposed to take into consideration game day situations.

By the way the decision is being panned by former HCs, NFL QBs, and other former NFL players Only the guys that have never played a down in the NFL
are defending the call.

Well there’s a reason they all have “former” in their title 😂

[NOrvMeNow]

The 4th-and-1. Playcall was a fullback dive to the RB. RT Trey Pipkens completely whiffed, and went to his knees. RG Jamaree Salyer got one arm on his man and TE Donald Parham missed his block. Three critical blocking miscues by the right side of the offensive line on the most important rep of the game.

Secondly, That lunatic Viking DC Flores blitzed the Chargers nearly 85% in the passing game and the same in the run game. Flores established that run-blitzing the Chargers kills the run game. How Kellen Moore counters that is why I am excited about Sunday. Raiders won't blitz as often. No way.

Parham didn't have a ghost of a chance of ever making that block. Very few tight ends would have succeeded: Mark Bavarro, Gronk, small list.

Jamrock was right.

[NOrvMeNow]

Ben Baldwin is a writer and football analyst. He's never played or coached one down in the NFL. Analytics are useful in sports. But they
cannot determine human fallacy which is big part of any sports. Analytics cannot predetermine that 3 of your O line guys are going to
miss their blocks. It doesn't take account of the pressure situation put on the players. In that situation especially the offense. Fail and
you get all the blame. On D, nobody expects you to stop a 1 yard play. Analytics relies heavily on certain stats and then computes
probability from those stats. In some situations it is useless unless using real time A1, which would account for way more information.

Staley would do well to take human psychology class to balance out his analytics class.
And by the way Jimmy Johnson and many others that have coached or played in the NFL disagree with the decision.

Any stat, without a description of the margin of uncertainty, is not worth spit.

In this case, 88 % and 82 % are pretty much identical ...... huge uncertainty involved.

[charger1_sj]

Well there’s a reason they all have “former” in their title 😂

Retired SB Winning QBs an HC. That's a pretty good reason to sit and listen.