Official 2026 Chargers News | Acquisitions | Transactions | Injuries

[Bolt4Knob]

The cap increase has really changed the tone around here from cut everyone to keep everyone, LOL...

Yeah, it's always best to keep as much as you can especially if the new coaching staff still wants these players...My understanding of minter's system was that he likes smaller faster edge guys that can cover and neither Joey nor Mack fit that description...but if he wants them that just tells me that his scheme is "player versatile" and can be modified to fit the type of guys on the roster...

besides, clearing up like 30 mil in cap space just by extending Mack and KA is not going to mortgage the future cap...your still pushing less dead cap into 2025 than what they currently have this year....in addition to the cap savings for 2024 they could still save another 27mil by cutting MWs and Kendricks...two extensions and two cuts and the chargers have 47mil in cap space before free agency and that's without modifying Joey's deal...

The new staff might not want these players though. They were a5-12 team. The defense was a mess, the Oline was terrible, no running game, the TE's couldn;t block. I want Harbaugh and Hortiz to bring in players that fit the scheme

Second, the Chargers just cannot keep pushing cap and pushing cap for players like Bosa. And essentially, by keeping Bosa and pushing money on other players, its exactlyh what you are doing. Just release Bosa and MW - life will go on. The Chargers will survive without Joey Bosa and MW. As for Minters comments, he was just speaking coach speak - he is not going to say "yes, we are cutting Bosa and trading Mack"

Lastly, with respect to the KA and Mack, the best I have for both is give them their 23m with two void years. Chargers would get about $25m of cap space between them - if they blow it out of the water in 2024 - they get paid, if they don't- they are free agents or a take a salary based on their 2024 performance. I don't think the chargers should be paying Mack or Allen in 2025, at their age, based on 2023.

My offseason plan just for you since you have given me yours . First, the chargers are now $25.6m over the cap as both Palmer and Samuel got pay increases based on 4th year status - no surprise

1) release MW and Kendricks - up to $892k so cap compliant
2) Bosa: trade or release with a June 1 designation - up to $22.8 under the cap
3) Allen and Mack - pay them their $23m -- give two void years. rolling 30m of dead cap with these moves If they ball out in 2024 - there 2025 salary will be based on that. The Chargers are giving them the money they have earned but are not paying them for 2025 until they perform in 2024. If they are not amenable - moving on.

Team has $52m of cap space
After signing the rookies, having a 53 man roster, practice squad and in season fund - team will have about $30m in free agency to spend on upgrading the roster

[Bolt4Knob]

Eventually the cap hit has to come due unless either of them agrees to a pay cut (no chance).
If we were an SB contender, yeah I'd kick the can down the road for another shake, but if we're not right there then it's best to cut bait now and eat the cap hit (we're also eating the JC Jackson dead cap hit this year) rather than handcuff future years.

Mack's in his final year of his deal, so I'd probably just leave it as is unless you desperately need the space as you'd need an extension or void years to lower his cap hit. He's 33 now so any extension after this year would be risky.
Bosa is due 36 mil this year and 33 mil next year. If you could guarantee his health he is worth it, but he's played a full season 3 times in 8 years, and started 9 games total the past 2 years.
If you look at pretty much every team to make the conference finals or SB, they largely remain healthy in regards to their big cap value guys, otherwise they don't make it.
It's the same reason Mike Williams is also probably a goner. Together those 2 (Bosa and MW) combine for 69 mil of cap space and cutting both would be enough to get us enough cap room for the draft class.
Probably another few moves also need to be made if they want to bring in any non-bargain basement free agents.

Correct! The chargers are not a contender - save the money and the creative financing when you are one

[dmac_bolt]

The new staff might not want these players though. They were a5-12 team. The defense was a mess, the Oline was terrible, no running game, the TE's couldn;t block. I want Harbaugh and Hortiz to bring in players that fit the scheme

Second, the Chargers just cannot keep pushing cap and pushing cap for players like Bosa. And essentially, by keeping Bosa and pushing money on other players, its exactlyh what you are doing. Just release Bosa and MW - life will go on. The Chargers will survive without Joey Bosa and MW. As for Minters comments, he was just speaking coach speak - he is not going to say "yes, we are cutting Bosa and trading Mack"

Lastly, with respect to the KA and Mack, the best I have for both is give them their 23m with two void years. Chargers would get about $25m of cap space between them - if they blow it out of the water in 2024 - they get paid, if they don't- they are free agents or a take a salary based on their 2024 performance. I don't think the chargers should be paying Mack or Allen in 2025, at their age, based on 2023.

Of course they can. It’s a choice - we’ll see what they decide. There are a lot of guys here that still are resisting, struggling with, and fighting the meaning of the JH2 2024 goal - they want to win NOW. If you want to win now in the NFL, you don’t cut or fire-sale your two starting edge rushers for nothing without a plan to replace them. So whats that plan - what is that replacement plan - and it’s not Tuli becomes an instant star alone and Rumph is not the answer to that question. So what is it?

If its go big and sign Josh Allen or Burns - ok, thats a plan. If it’s draft edge at #5 - ok, but now something else is not getting improved - thats not max overall team improvement for just this reason.

And if it’s just cut Joey and Khalil to make 2025 cap projection lower, lol, thats just 2024 quitting. So I’ll ask the obvious question - Does Jim Harbaugh ever quit?

[dmac_bolt]

Correct! The chargers are not a contender - save the money and the creative financing when you are one

You’re confusing LAC with a different team. The LA Chargers are now led by Jim MFIC Harbaugh and he contends every fucking day.

[Bolt4Knob]

You’re confusing LAC with a different team. The LA Chargers are now led by Jim MFIC Harbaugh and he contends every fucking day.

Not sure what team you watched but the Chargers were a 5-12 team with the 5th pick in the draft
terrible defense
no running game
below average OLine

they have a lot of work to do
harbaugh is the right guy to do it - but don't see it this year

[Bolt4Knob]

Of course they can. It’s a choice - we’ll see what they decide. There are a lot of guys here that still are resisting, struggling with, and fighting the meaning of the JH2 2024 goal - they want to win NOW. If you want to win now in the NFL, you don’t cut or fire-sale your two starting edge rushers for nothing without a plan to replace them. So whats that plan - what is that replacement plan - and it’s not Tuli becomes an instant star alone and Rumph is not the answer to that question. So what is it?

If its go big and sign Josh Allen or Burns - ok, thats a plan. If it’s draft edge at #5 - ok, but now something else is not getting improved - thats not max overall team improvement for just this reason.

And if it’s just cut Joey and Khalil to make 2025 cap projection lower, lol, thats just 2024 quitting. So I’ll ask the obvious question - Does Jim Harbaugh ever quit?

how is cutting joey bosa quitting?

he has been injured for two years. paying a guy to be on injured reserve - you going for the hat trick. two years of being hurt is not enough - he is going to magically play a fiull season
he is overrated. he is not the difference maker a TJ Watt or Donald is. Bosa is hte guy who gets 4 sacks in the games you win 38 to zip. He is more likely to get a penalty in a close game than make an actual play that wins the game
he is not worth the money. I can spend his 22m on 4 players that will have more of an impact

As for Mack - he had a career year. What was his age? 33 . He had a career year at 33 years old - -if you look at the stats - he was more in the 9-12 range.

I have not heard JH2 say they have to win in 2024. Show me the quote. I think they want to win a Super Bowl and realize this might take more than one offseason

Also --here is one last thought since you are so fascinated on losing two edge rushers. In the meantime the Chargers need a Center, they can use a TE, who knows about LB; IDL is a mess, they need a CB
So maybe - they improve other areas of the team like Center and IDL and LB. So they take a step back from watching a guy on the sidelines in street clothes to playing people who actually play

Bosa is not the 3rd pick in the draft anymore. He is overpaid for what he actually brings and not what he could bring

[blueman]

Correct! The chargers are not a contender - save the money and the creative financing when you are one

Disagree completely. But will let this play out.

[blueman]

Thought from left field: can Joey play inside?

[dmac_bolt]

Not sure what team you watched but the Chargers were a 5-12 team with the 5th pick in the draft
terrible defense
no running game
below average OLine

they have a lot of work to do
harbaugh is the right guy to do it - but don't see it this year

I watched the same team. That 5-12 team doesnt get better by cutting both starting edge rushers unless you have a plan to replace them. So whats your plan?

I know you don’t but he does. You keep confusing yourself with the leadership actually running the team.

[dmac_bolt]

how is cutting joey bosa quitting?

he has been injured for two years. paying a guy to be on injured reserve - you going for the hat trick. two years of being hurt is not enough - he is going to magically play a fiull season
he is overrated. he is not the difference maker a TJ Watt or Donald is. Bosa is hte guy who gets 4 sacks in the games you win 38 to zip. He is more likely to get a penalty in a close game than make an actual play that wins the game
he is not worth the money. I can spend his 22m on 4 players that will have more of an impact

As for Mack - he had a career year. What was his age? 33 . He had a career year at 33 years old - -if you look at the stats - he was more in the 9-12 range.

I have not heard JH2 say they have to win in 2024. Show me the quote. I think they want to win a Super Bowl and realize this might take more than one offseason

Also --here is one last thought since you are so fascinated on losing two edge rushers. In the meantime the Chargers need a Center, they can use a TE, who knows about LB; IDL is a mess, they need a CB
So maybe - they improve other areas of the team like Center and IDL and LB. So they take a step back from watching a guy on the sidelines in street clothes to playing people who actually play

Bosa is not the 3rd pick in the draft anymore. He is overpaid for what he actually brings and not what he could bring

What is your replacement plan? Whats your improvement plan? Present a replacement plan that we can discuss. I’ve posted an hypothetical to cut one of them and go hard for Josh Allen - see, that is an actual possible plan. All you have proposed, unless I missed it, is cut Joey and Khalil to save future cap because they can’t win now anyway and should clean the balance sheet for future years. That doesnt improve the 2024 team so your proposal is summarily rejected as the opposite of our 2024 goal.

I’m fascinated with losing any premium starters currently on the roster for the purpose of improving future cap calculation goals. These two are not unique to me although I recognize that edge rushers are a high value position due to their importance. Otherwise, they aren’t unique to me - they are unique to you. I know you think Joey sucks

I’ll let our new coaches decide about Joey and if they agree, thats fine with me. You’re way too emotional about him, you should recuse and let someone else make this decision.

JH has said his goal is to win now, specifically in 2024, multiple times. I’m not gonna search for quotes, I don’t care if you don’t believe me. Do your own research.

[ThatSinkingFeeling]

Bosa's never healthy anymore. If they can get rid of him and open up some cap space, then all the better. Mack had a great year, and since it's his last year, he might well stick around.

[Bolt4Knob]

Thought from left field: can Joey play inside?

Yes he can play inside. He plays inside all the team - its called inside a suite watching the team play because he is injured all the time
that is where he does his actual best work