Chargers GM Joe Hortiz - Discussion

[wu-dai clan]

This...I don't think his drafts were bad over the past few years...it's really been about the coaching. Coaching will no longer be our weakest link going forward. I wouldn't be surprised if we have 3-4 players start producing when they were buried under a Staley rock.

Like it says in your signature, major props to Spagnuolo.

[dmac_bolt]

This...I don't think his drafts were bad over the past few years...it's really been about the coaching. Coaching will no longer be our weakest link going forward. I wouldn't be surprised if we have 3-4 players start producing when they were buried under a Staley rock.

I don’t think his recent drafts were as good as we mostly all thought at the time, personally. If Harbo comes in and develops them and shows it was the Staley Method, I’ll be glad to be wrong.

[gzubeck]

I don’t think his recent drafts were as good as we mostly all thought at the time, personally. If Harbo comes in and develops them and shows it was the Staley Method, I’ll be glad to be wrong.

Be prepared....hell will be freezing over some time soon!

[northerner]

This...I don't think his drafts were bad over the past few years...it's really been about the coaching. Coaching will no longer be our weakest link going forward. I wouldn't be surprised if we have 3-4 players start producing when they were buried under a Staley rock.

I am still wondering what happened to Spiller and JT Woods. can they play or not?

[Bolt4Knob]

I am still wondering what happened to Spiller and JT Woods. can they play or not?

Well the last few games of last season were the times to see if they can play but John Spanos - didn't instruct the coaches to play them. That was a mistake

[Icebolt]

TT was not INSPIRING in his s********s. Bosa fell to him. Herbert fell to him. I could have made those picks!!. You cannot give him props for that. But there were a log of K.Murray's that really did not pan out. Glad he is gone. Just so-so is not my cut of tea.

[Bolt4Knob]

TT was not INSPIRING in his s********s. Bosa fell to him. Herbert fell to him. I could have made those picks!!. You cannot give him props for that. But there were a log of K.Murray's that really did not pan out. Glad he is gone. Just so-so is not my cut of tea.

If he knew how good Herbert was going to be he would have traded a future first to move up for him
He was prepared to take Tua or Herbert

I am looking forward to seeing what Hortiz and Chad Alexander too with the front office moves

I think it will be a different direction - one based on the 20+ years each had with the Ravens - -

[richpjr]

TT was not INSPIRING in his s********s. Bosa fell to him. Herbert fell to him. I could have made those picks!!. You cannot give him props for that. But there were a log of K.Murray's that really did not pan out. Glad he is gone. Just so-so is not my cut of tea.

Don't agree with the TT is lucky cause players fell to him. While I'm glad he is gone, understanding how the board works, what teams ahead of you are likely to draft and how they grade players is a big part of being a GM and that part is something TT was pretty good at.

[Icebolt]

Don't agree with the TT is lucky cause players fell to him. While I'm glad he is gone, understanding how the board works, what teams ahead of you are likely to draft and how they grade players is a big part of being a GM and that part is something TT was pretty good at.

NO, he wanted Tua over Hebert because "gurus" like Kiper have him rated higher. He got lucky

[richpjr]

NO, he wanted Tua over Hebert because "gurus" like Kiper have him rated higher. He got lucky

Luck has nothing to do with it, so I'll agree to disagree.

He is gone now, as he should be based on his record. Let's see what the new generation does - I am expecting big things.

[dmac_bolt]

I am still wondering what happened to Spiller and JT Woods. can they play or not?

exactly.

[dmac_bolt]

NO, he (TT) wanted Tua over Hebert because "gurus" like Kiper have him rated higher. He got lucky

I have never seen this confirmed? source?

've seen Chargers quoted saying they had their eye on Herbert for a long time and wanted him - but of course I never saw any of them say that until AFTER they drafted JH so who knows if they really did. I mean, they can't go out and say they wanted Tua after they drafted JH, right?