Goodbye Keenan Allen

[dmac_bolt]

The thing I don’t get is that it’s a fourth now, but a year from now let him walk and he likely nets a 3rd or 4th round comp pick, but we don’t get that pick until 2026.

For a 10 yr vet - max comp pick is a Rd5

[dmac_bolt]

Adios, Keenan - Vaya con dios, amigo! thanks for all the years and memories …

[Bolt4Knob]

I was in agreement and felt the same way about Ekeler. I wouldn't say I got blasted for it, but there were definitely many who were very emotionally against the idea. These moves actually should have been made last offseason, which is yet another example of why Telesco is no longer here.

Although of course I would have liked to receive more in return for Allen, this move makes me have more faith in Hortiz and Harbaugh. This is nothing against Allen personally. He was a great player for us. If he were 27 right now I would be all about having him on the team moving forward. Hortiz and Harbaugh have a plan, and I have complete faith in it.

I was in the group that wanted to do this last year as well - meaning move on from Allen and trade Bosa. There was no way a GM on the hot seat and the coach on the hot seat were going to do that

I think this is the right move for the team moving forward - wish KA13 well. Had a very good career with the Chargers

Good move for both teams

[Heatmiser]

For a 10 yr vet - max comp pick is a Rd5

Thank you. Did not know that. Comp rules unnecessarily Comp(licated) if you ask me.

TG

[21&500]

I was in the group that wanted to do this last year as well - meaning move on from Allen and trade Bosa. There was no way a GM on the hot seat and the coach on the hot seat were going to do that

I think this is the right move for the team moving forward - wish KA13 well. Had a very good career with the Chargers

Good move for both teams

me too but then I fell back in love with KA after the Minnesota game.
btw
TOPCAT - has there ever been a MORE appropriate name than "Trader Joe"?

[21&500]

Yup, this is tough. But when you don’t want to help the team with your contract, see ya!!!

In the end, as long as we have a qb, wr will flourish. And each year a new one will come, 7 on 7 is all how the kids start. So that’s life.

part of me feels like this is also a cultural precedent.
I guess Joe really DOES mean, "team first".
it's also communicating to everyone on the team that no one is untouchable.
Belichick became famous for his "year early vs year too late" philosophy.
Trader Joe is establishing his legacy now for better or worse while he still has "new boss buy-in"
If this move nets a positive, it will go a long way in his credibility
if not, this could quickly talespin into bad internal mojo.
ironic that it had to be Allen, the first great player drafted by the previous GM.

[21&500]

It feels very shortsighted to trade away a highly liked charger like Kennan. It’s going to impact JHs comfort level this season as he gets used to a new offense and new receivers.

I also don’t like the “he didn’t take a pay cut” crap. I remember Harbaugh negotiating for more money for a long time, I don’t recall anyone expecting him to take less money. Allen had an amazing year in 23 and deserved the contract and to be a charger. Trading him for a 4th is the first bad move of the new regime imo.

The move reminds me of a new fancy highly paid manager expecting you to do something they wouldn’t do.It leaves a bad taste in my mouth for sure.

The FO better make some moves and win games or this will look really bad.

I don't think this is a good comparison.
Harbs is negotiating a new deal while KA is simply choosing to continue the deal he made with a previous regime.
So as other have said, KA has all the right to refuse a paycut, but Hortiz has the right to ask him to take one because it doesn't fit for his
plan and vision for team-building.
Now I don't know if KA was clear about the consequences but he had to have known a trade is always possible.
I suspect KA believed himself to be "untouchable" just because thats the dominant narrative and likely what he hears daily.

it's like when Charlie insisted he was captain but new HC O'Reily informed him, "I'll pick the captain around here".
everything you need to know about the Chargers is all there in the Mighty Ducks 1-3.

[Boltnut]

I hope these guys know what the fuck they're doing. Merry Christmas, Caleb!

[foreigner]

It's sad... but dont worry, its a clean up, we are getting a brand new big titties blonde...

Oh! and you can thank Telesco for the cap mess that is forcing us to do this...

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

me too but then I fell back in love with KA after the Minnesota game.
btw
TOPCAT - has there ever been a MORE appropriate name than "Trader Joe"?

Hopefully, Trader Joe is an expert on *produce*.

[Budsman]

I don't think this is a good comparison.
Harbs is negotiating a new deal while KA is simply choosing to continue the deal he made with a previous regime.
So as other have said, KA has all the right to refuse a paycut, but Hortiz has the right to ask him to take one because it doesn't fit for his
plan and vision for team-building.
Now I don't know if KA was clear about the consequences but he had to have known a trade is always possible.
I suspect KA believed himself to be "untouchable" just because thats the dominant narrative and likely what he hears daily.

it's like when Charlie insisted he was captain but new HC O'Reily informed him, "I'll pick the captain around here".
everything you need to know about the Chargers is all there in the Mighty Ducks 1-3.

No one said it isn’t fair. I just said the excuse that he didn’t want to take a pay cut so he’s not a team first Harbaugh guy, is hypocritical.

Harbaugh better win and win soon because if he gets rid of all of JH weapons and JH struggles with the new offense and connecting with his receivers, it’s gonna get ugly quickly.

Allen isn’t one of these speedsters, his game will translate for many more years. He’s Jerry rice esque in that he could play into his late 30s and still be effective as he proved still performing at a top level.

Anyway it’s done and we will see the results. I hope they’re good but this is the first move that screams, BAD CALL.

[21&500]

No one said it isn’t fair. I just said the excuse that he didn’t want to take a pay cut so he’s not a team first Harbaugh guy, is hypocritical.

Harbaugh better win and win soon because if he gets rid of all of JH weapons and JH struggles with the new offense and connecting with his receivers, it’s gonna get ugly quickly.

Allen isn’t one of these speedsters, his game will translate for many more years. He’s Jerry rice esque in that he could play into his late 30s and still be effective as he proved still performing at a top level.

Anyway it’s done and we will see the results. I hope they’re good but this is the first move that screams, BAD CALL.

that's for sure.
results at the EOD.