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[ChargersPowderBlue]

lol, love your frequent efforts to refocus this herd, but we don't beat them if we don't outscore them

We don't beat the Chiefs when the league gives orders to turn things into WWE garbage.

[rensoul]

Interesting tid bit that Palmer might be on the trading block. Trade Palmer and trade for Dionte Johnson maybe.

It does make sense to move him if they've already decided that they don't want to extend him.
I don't think it necessarily means they would trade for someone if they did.

If Chark is activated then a spot for him would need to be opened up.

[Boltinloudguy]

It does make sense to move him if they've already decided that they don't want to extend him.
I don't think it necessarily means they would trade for someone if they did.

If Chark is activated then a spot for him would need to be opened up.

I would just worry if Chark could stay healthy the rest of the season. You also have QJ dinged up. I would be happy with MW coming back if he’s cheaper. I would also be happy if they made a play for a receiving TE instead of WR

[Velo]

Interesting tid bit that Palmer might be on the trading block. Trade Palmer and trade for Dionte Johnson maybe.

I traced this rumor back to its apparent original source. This writer, Tony Pauline, who is completely unfamiliar to me, wrote in SportsSkeeda that the Chargers are looking to move on from Palmer. I think it's just his opinion with nothing else to back it up. Take it with a quarter grain of salt IMO.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/news-insider-notes-nfl-trade-deadline-chargers-willing-move-wr-broncos-open-offers-panthers-diontae-johnson-move

[rensoul]

I would just worry if Chark could stay healthy the rest of the season. You also have QJ dinged up. I would be happy with MW coming back if he’s cheaper. I would also be happy if they made a play for a receiving TE instead of WR

Yea, guys being banged up is definitely a concern. I'd be happy with MW as well, I think he would be cheaper than some of the other guys to trade for.

Trading for a TE wouldn't be a bad move, the FA group of TE's next off-season isn't great and most TE's take a while to develop from the draft. It's just a matter of whether or not guys like Engram/Njoku would actually be available.

[Topcat]

Interesting tid bit that Palmer might be on the trading block. Trade Palmer and trade for Dionte Johnson maybe.

With the Bolts kind of thin at decent wideouts, I'd be surprised if they trade Palmer. We've gotten decent production out of him, and he seems to have decent chemistry with Herbie. A more likely scenario is that Trader Joe lets him go to FA for a comp pick after this season. Josh is in his last year on his rook deal, so he'll be looking for a nice payday on his next contract.

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[Topcat]

I noticed something while watching the past few games and was curious if others saw it as well:

Gilman has been playing really poorly. Out of curiosity, I checked his PFF season grade (I know, not the greatest but usually somewhat in the ballpark) and he is rated as the 140th out of 146 safeties in the league this year. His overall grade is 37.5 with a pass rush grade of 65.3, a run defense grade of 57.6 and a coverage grade of 36.5.

I do think that Elija Molden has been playing very well so I checked his PFF grades. He is ranked 6th with an overall grade of 87.8 with a pass rush grade of 59.7, a run defense grade of 77.3 and a coverage grade of 83.2.

I would love to see much more of Molden and less of Gilman.

FWIW, PFF agrees with u:

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https://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2024/10/28/24281959/chargers-saints-game-grades-justin-herbert-ladd-mcconkey

[Velo]

I would just worry if Chark could stay healthy the rest of the season. You also have QJ dinged up. I would be happy with MW coming back if he’s cheaper. I would also be happy if they made a play for a receiving TE instead of WR

Yea, guys being banged up is definitely a concern. I'd be happy with MW as well, I think he would be cheaper than some of the other guys to trade for.

Trading for a TE wouldn't be a bad move, the FA group of TE's next off-season isn't great and most TE's take a while to develop from the draft. It's just a matter of whether or not guys like Engram/Njoku would actually be available.

Darius Slayton, NY Giants, had 108 yds receiving last night. Drafted by the G'nts in 2019, Daniel Jones has been his QB his entire career, so he doesn't have a 1k yd season, he consistently has had 700-800 yd receiving seasons, he doesn't score a lot of TDs, (he did score 8 as a rookie) but that may be more a result of the subpar QBing he's had in NY for his entire career. He's 6-1/200, turns 28 in Jan, ran 4.39 40 at the 2019 Combine. The G'nts brought him back on a 2 year deal after his rookie contract. He's in the final year of that deal, earning $8 mil this season, the Chargers would only take on half that. The G'nts' season is over, they are 2-6, only above Carolina in the NFC standings. The G'nts have a bunch of young WRs led by Nabors. They might want to move Slayton, and because of his contract he could probably be had for a 5th or 6th rnd pick. The Chargers could decide whether to re-sign him or let him walk in the off-season based on his performance the remainder of the season. He's young enough to invest a deal in if his play measures up. He has been the G'nts most consistent WR in the Daniel Jones era. Not a flashy WR, but would make a quality addition to the WR corps for minimal investment.

[rensoul]

Darius Slayton, NY Giants, had 108 yds receiving last night. Drafted by the G'nts in 2019, Daniel Jones has been his QB his entire career, so he doesn't have a 1k yd season, he consistently has had 700-800 yd receiving seasons, he doesn't score a lot of TDs, (he did score 8 as a rookie) but that may be more a result of the subpar QBing he's had in NY for his entire career. He's 6-1/200, turns 28 in Jan, ran 4.39 40 at the 2019 Combine. The G'nts brought him back on a 2 year deal after his rookie contract. He's in the final year of that deal, earning $8 mil this season, the Chargers would only take on half that. The G'nts' season is over, they are 2-6, only above Carolina in the NFC standings. The G'nts have a bunch of young WRs led by Nabors. They might want to move Slayton, and because of his contract he could probably be had for a 5th or 6th rnd pick. The Chargers could decide whether to re-sign him or let him walk in the off-season based on his performance the remainder of the season. He's young enough to invest a deal in if his play measures up. He has been the G'nts most consistent WR in the Daniel Jones era. Not a flashy WR, but would make a quality addition to the WR corps for minimal investment.

I think either MW or Slayton would improve the WR group.

I would guess that the price for either of them would be at least a tier lower than Johnson so it would be worth a look.

[Heatmiser]

Not sure why Tart does not play more? Every time he is on the field I see him win his one on ones and make plays. On the pass he tipped/batted, he got knocked to the ground by the blocker and then did a martial arts type spring back up. Quite impressive for someone of his size (and uh, girth)

TG

[captaind]

Not sure why Tart does not play more? Every time he is on the field I see him win his one on ones and make plays. On the pass he tipped/batted, he got knocked to the ground by the blocker and then did a martial arts type spring back up. Quite impressive for someone of his size (and uh, girth)

TG

So you’re saying Tart popped back up?

[CanadianBoltFan]

Darius Slayton, NY Giants, had 108 yds receiving last night. Drafted by the G'nts in 2019, Daniel Jones has been his QB his entire career, so he doesn't have a 1k yd season, he consistently has had 700-800 yd receiving seasons, he doesn't score a lot of TDs, (he did score 8 as a rookie) but that may be more a result of the subpar QBing he's had in NY for his entire career. He's 6-1/200, turns 28 in Jan, ran 4.39 40 at the 2019 Combine. The G'nts brought him back on a 2 year deal after his rookie contract. He's in the final year of that deal, earning $8 mil this season, the Chargers would only take on half that. The G'nts' season is over, they are 2-6, only above Carolina in the NFC standings. The G'nts have a bunch of young WRs led by Nabors. They might want to move Slayton, and because of his contract he could probably be had for a 5th or 6th rnd pick. The Chargers could decide whether to re-sign him or let him walk in the off-season based on his performance the remainder of the season. He's young enough to invest a deal in if his play measures up. He has been the G'nts most consistent WR in the Daniel Jones era. Not a flashy WR, but would make a quality addition to the WR corps for minimal investment.

I have also brought up Slayton as an under the radar cheaper option. Not an WR1 stud but a very solid player who would add to the group and is likley better than Palmer, Fehoko, Raegaor, Chark, and what QJ is right now.

There are options. Johnson would likley be our best WR immediately, but there are cheaper options out there, and Johnson price is reportedly a 5th, not astronomical.