Official 2025 Chargers Discussion | 2025 Roster Build | Free Agency and Draft

[CanadianBoltFan]

Thats a great point. Taylor in R2 but you are right - probably gone

Helm might be a little early in R3

Hence, why I truly think - depending on the board at 22 - this might be the year to trade back - get another pick. Trade back to the top of the 2nd round and get another 3rd rounder -- more of a good quantity
again, all depends on teh board at 22

I dont mind the trade back option this year...if there is demand for a team to trade up ina draft like this

[CanadianBoltFan]

So we now have 5 top 50 TEs. There may be a run before @ #55.

A similar thing is on the front burner at EDGE-DE-DT, with more prospects.

We can get in there or we can wait for tier two value.

I see 4 at the moment going into combine that could be gone by 55...the ones i want....Warren, Loveland, Arroyo, Taylor...I think Fannin will be there at 55

[21&500]

I dont mind the trade back option this year...if there is demand for a team to trade up ina draft like this

How far?
22 is looking like a perfect spot to steal a top tier prospect.
I'm okay trading down if BPA and PON don't meet perfectly. Which is more likely if we plug a hole or 2 in FA.

[Charge!]

There is a prospect that is both a good receiver and a good blocker.
Some posters here were saying he was not a good route runner... then he ran great routes at the Senior Bowl.
IMO, Mason Taylor is the #3 TE and a probable 2nd round pick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZmWk4Qvwe8&t=1s

I would take him in second or trade up for him only if Loveland is gone before 22..... which I now believe is very likely....

Jerimiah had Bowers as 5th best player in last years draft and he has the top 2 TE's this year at 5 and 7 in terms of best players available.... Loveland will be much better with Herbert as QB than he was in Michigan..... Loveland has special elite eluisive skills and instincts for how to get open and if we choose him will become our leading receiver in terms of number of targets and catches..... and he will be a nightmare for defenses to try and stop....

[Boltjolt]

Jim Harbaugh was on the Dan Patrick show yesterday, Feb 5th and in that segment he said he had his hip replacement 13 days ago from then so that puts it around Jan 23rd?

Hasn't had the heart arythma thing done yet. Not sure what that will be but supposed to be minor.

[CanadianBoltFan]

I would take him in second or trade up for him only if Loveland is gone before 22..... which I now believe is very likely....

Jerimiah had Bowers as 5th best player in last years draft and he has the top 2 TE's this year at 5 and 7 in terms of best players available.... Loveland will be much better with Herbert as QB than he was in Michigan..... Loveland has special elite eluisive skills and instincts for how to get open and if we choose him will become our leading receiver in terms of number of targets and catches..... and he will be a nightmare for defenses to try and stop....

Jeremiah just mocked Tyler Warren at 7 to the Jets which is interesting because DJ always does his mocks with his ears. His top 50 is how he ranks players personally, but his mocks are based on what he is hearing from his many contacts around the NFL

[Bolt4Knob]

How far?
22 is looking like a perfect spot to steal a top tier prospect.
I'm okay trading down if BPA and PON don't meet perfectly. Which is more likely if we plug a hole or 2 in FA.

Agree about 22 can be a prime spot to maybe get somebody from your board that might be in the top 18 that falls

or if the board doesn't shake out and you have a handful of candidates with similar grades and can trade back for a good deal - also an option

Chargers have enough needs that if that really player drops -- probably will fill a need as well.

[dmac_bolt]

I disagree that Hortiz will draft and sign FAs as if he were a Raven. He ha a different roster.and cap situation.
I do believe he has a great deal of respect for his previous organization, but this ain't them..
I do expect IOL, WR2, TE, Edge to be a priority but BPA in the 1st could be a DT.
I think FA or trade for a quality vet C. Beyond that I think the adds are right. Who , when? Hard to say.

I have never made the blind assumption and I don’t believe that Joe will do everything exactly as how the Ravens did things the last 7 yrs. But that is the overwhelmingly dominant belief throughout our cherished TPB brotherhood. It’s stated with almost scientific certainty on the daily around here …

[dmac_bolt]

Every day I cool more and more to the idea of spending big in FA. We have a lot of holes and still need to extend Slater and bring back guys like Molden, Ford, Tart, etc. Just not a sustainable way to build long term success. See what TT did to us.

I'd rather we draft our own Trey Smith. Dude was only a 6th rounder. Hortiz needs to find his own Trey Smith. We have 10 picks, let's make it happen.

Fans need to make peace with the fact that Zion and Bozeman will be back next year. I think Pipkins will be replaced. I think/hope Hortiz finds another OG and center of the future in this draft. The 2026 OL likely is the OL of the future. Be patient, next year is prob a small step backwards as we rely on a lot of (exciting) rookies moving forward. Which also means a higher pick in 2026 and more chance of an impact player there, too.

Two more years, Bolt fam. Be patient. Don't forget that Harbaugh struggled mightily at first at Michigan. Almost got fired after 2020. Takes time to build these things.

See what KC did to KC’s roster. Look at the OL. Look closer, look at their OL cap. Look at their 2025 OL cap. We don’t have to sign Trey, but that is exactly what KC has done and they are playing for Ring #3. ok - now go look at the Eagles OL. Hey, what do you know - they also signed a big FA! What the heck?

It is what most of the final 8 teams have done, they ALL have a FA signing amidst their draft picks because hitting on 5 of 5 draft picks is like hitting on an inside straight flush. Sure, you can wait to draw that inside card, but you will probably go broke before it ever falls.

If it was as easy as just use a 6th rd draft pick and voila you have a pro bowl OG … 32 teams would have pro bowl OGs. I love how many here say “he was a (pick your Day3 round) pick” as if thats easy and normal and all late Day3 picks are pro bowl players. Truth is that 2% of Rd6 picks become a starter, so on average, you need to make 50 Rd6 picks to get one starter.

As I said, you can try that Rd 6 plan, but you’ve got a 50-1 probability you go broke before it works. What I see by careful scientific analysis of all of the top NFL teams is that yes, they devote draft capital to their OL. Check, we’ve done that.

Then, when they have several great pieces, they don’t just wait around for the draft to find even more great pieces - they go and sign one or two so they get a functioning entire OL, and not just a couple great pieces.

I think signing one of the other mid-level OGs will be enough, we don’t need a line stocked with all pros to succeed. Just need 3 motherfuckers that don’t jump out of the goddamn way when a twisting DE comes right up the middle at them. Just give us 3 guys that don’t all decide to block 1 defender 3x1 while 2 other defenders run ant herbie untouched. Just some simple shit.

LAC is in that perfect position where we have the high cost OTs and just need the lower cost IOL. Signing Trey would be bad ass. Signing Trey + Dalton would tell the world that LAC will have the most impenetrable fucking titanium spear tip ever to pierce this planet and there’s not a goddamn thing any other team can do about it. We shall rule all of the tribes and all lands across the plains.

Imagine this OL: Slater - NEW ProBowl LG - Dalton - Smith - Alt!

where are the beefers when I need them?

[Bolt4Knob]

See what KC did to KC’s roster. Look at the OL. Look closer, look at their OL cap. Look at their 2025 OL cap. We don’t have to sign Trey, but that is exactly what KC has done and they are playing for Ring #3. ok - now go look at the Eagles OL. Hey, what do you know - they also signed a big FA! What the heck?

It is what most of the final 8 teams have done, they ALL have a FA signing amidst their draft picks because hitting on 5 of 5 draft picks is like hitting on an inside straight flush. Sure, you can wait to draw that inside card, but you will probably go broke before it ever falls.

If it was as easy as just use a 6th rd draft pick and voila you have a pro bowl OG … 32 teams would have pro bowl OGs. I love how many here say “he was a (pick your Day3 round) pick” as if thats easy and normal and all late Day3 picks are pro bowl players. Truth is that 2% of Rd6 picks become a starter, so on average, you need to make 50 Rd6 picks to get one starter.

As I said, you can try that Rd 6 plan, but you’ve got a 50-1 probability you go broke before it works. What I see by careful scientific analysis of all of the top NFL teams is that yes, they devote draft capital to their OL. Check, we’ve done that.

Then, when they have several great pieces, they don’t just wait around for the draft to find even more great pieces - they go and sign one or two so they get a functioning entire OL, and not just a couple great pieces.

I think signing one of the other mid-level OGs will be enough, we don’t need a line stocked with all pros to succeed. Just need 3 motherfuckers that don’t jump out of the goddamn way when a twisting DE comes right up the middle at them. Just give us 3 guys that don’t all decide to block 1 defender 3x1 while 2 other defenders run ant herbie untouched. Just some simple shit.

LAC is in that perfect position where we have the high cost OTs and just need the lower cost IOL. Signing Trey would be bad ass. Signing Trey + Dalton would tell the world that LAC will have the most impenetrable fucking titanium spear tip ever to pierce this planet and there’s not a goddamn thing any other team can do about it. We shall rule all of the tribes and all lands across the plains.

Imagine this OL: Slater - NEW ProBowl LG - Dalton - Smith - Alt!

where are the beefers when I need them?

First, I have looked at the Charger cap numbers a lot this offseason - and messed with OTC and the Chargers can afford Trey Smith. Sure they can get by with Zeitler. But they can afford Higgins or Smith. They just need to cut Pipkins and Bosa to start with. I think the Bosa talk - just release him. He has 14 sacks in 3 years, is injury prone. Don't ask him again to take a pay cut - let him find a new team

So now it comes down to - do you spend big money on the RG to solidify a young OL for the next 4-5 years or do you spend big money on the WR who is a very good fit with Ladd and sign a veteran RG. Personally, I still go with Trey Smith and figure out WR in the draft. But if they go Higgins and Zeitler - I wouldn't hate it

The Chargers can be players in free agency
and just because Telesco was a bad GM doesn't mean Hortiz will be in identifying the right players

Aim High -to beat the Chiefs have to aim big!

And by the way Cooper Kupp and Keenan Allen aren't the answers at WR.

[Jack Burton]

If LAC release Pipkins and Bosa what’s the new amount of FA money they would have for this off-season?

[Chargers8491]

If LAC release Pipkins and Bosa what’s the new amount of FA money they would have for this off-season?

About $95mil. They could and probably increase it more with re-signing Slater. They could be around $105mil with Slaters resigning.