Official 2025 Chargers Discussion | 2025 Roster Build | Free Agency and Draft

[Boltjolt]

'Keenan Adams'?!?

See the . between the names lol...i actually didnt screw that one up

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

Mike Williams makes more sense as I think he would be more the X receiver. If you have Ladd and probably a TE from the draft, I just don't see the area where Allen can operate


Eric Smith tweeted that per Hortiz, Zion Johnson has been working at Center. If so, that kind of makes sense as you can sign two OGs - maybe Fries and Zeitler or Scherff. Becton or a veteran and draft an OG.
The Center market is not good and Zion might be the best options

Kiper has the chargers taking TMac at 22 - that would be the best case scenario

Any serviceability from Zion Johnson, at this point, would be a manna-from-heaven godsend.

The pessimist in me thinks that, if Harbaugh et al *really* thought ZJ was a legit candidate to play Center, we'd have seen this in motion considerably before now.

But I'm yearning to be pleasantly surprised. As much of a weak spot as Center was for the Bolts last year, they need upgrades no matter where they find them. Sad to say, even 'average' play at Center in 2025 would be a significant improvement.

[Jack Burton]

Chargers should see if the Niners would be willing to trade draft picks if the Chargers pick up some of Bosa's salary bonus. The Rams traded 2nd and 3rd round picks for Miller and the Broncos picked up the tab, $9m

If the Chargers were willing to use a bit of cap space for say a 3rd and Day 3 pick - might be worth it. Niners have a 3rd round and should have two 4th round comp picks coming

Yeah, Niners got those comps at the end of the 3rd.
Id love for them to grab that 100th pick, trading Bosa.
I’d do what you suggested in a second, but if Bosa justs wants to play for SF anyways, they can just assume we are going to release him and wait the Chargers out..

[Boltjolt]

Mike Williams makes more sense as I think he would be more the X receiver. If you have Ladd and probably a TE from the draft, I just don't see the area where Allen can operate


Eric Smith tweeted that per Hortiz, Zion Johnson has been working at Center. If so, that kind of makes sense as you can sign two OGs - maybe Fries and Zeitler or Scherff. Becton or a veteran and draft an OG.
The Center market is not good and Zion might be the best options

Kiper has the chargers taking TMac at 22 - that would be the best case scenario

Also looks like Andrews will be traded from the Ravens -- I still want younger TE

That might be Zions saving grace if he can do it, and they need to make a decision this coming year about his 5th year option. Seems to be regressing at OG. So if he can that would be nice and then im guessing they bring back Bozeman cheap for depth and be a teacher....or start at first. Having two better OGs should help.

No idea whats going to happen but im confident they will make the OL right.

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

Johnathan Allen DT Commanders up for trade.

Cost, scheme fit, health and character ALL factor into a decision to pursue a guy like Jonathan Allen.

What do we know about him in these regards?

[Bolt4Knob]

Yeah, Niners got those comps at the end of the 3rd.
Id love for them to grab that 100th pick, trading Bosa.
I’d do what you suggested in a second, but if Bosa justs wants to play for SF anyways, they can just assume we are going to release him and wait the Chargers out..

You make a very valid point. But the one difference is, the Chargers are helping the Niners cap by paying part of his salary. Bosa made 15m last year - there is nothing to suggest based on last years play he is going to get a raise - what if the Chargers paid 6m for the 100th pick. Niners might only be on the hook for another 6m or so. Lets be real, Bosa is about in the $10-12m range based on availability.

[Bolt4Knob]

Cost, scheme fit, health and character ALL factor into a decision to pursue a guy like Jonathan Allen.

What do we know about him in these regards?

Reading this morning - injury history is a concern and would be looking at at extension. Also just turned 30 so not ideal.

Probably looking at Osa O or Golston from the Cowboys or possible Odeybingo from the Colts if the Chargers are looking at DLine

[Formula 21]

Injury problems are a concern with EVERY NFL PLAYER including Mahomes and Herbert etc. If it's not a problem why have huge guaranteed contracts? There should be no guarantees past the first two years of the contract.

Why shouldn’t the league assume some of the injury risk?

[Jack Burton]

You make a very valid point. But the one difference is, the Chargers are helping the Niners cap by paying part of his salary. Bosa made 15m last year - there is nothing to suggest based on last years play he is going to get a raise - what if the Chargers paid 6m for the 100th pick. Niners might only be on the hook for another 6m or so. Lets be real, Bosa is about in the $10-12m range based on availability.

Yeah, I like that idea. That 3rd to me is crucial.
Then they could take both 3’s or a 3rd and a 4th and go up into the 2nd twice.

[eaterfan]

$6 million is a good chunk of change. Molden just signed a $6 million APY deal. Would you rather have a Molden caliber player in FA or a late 3rd round pick?

That's even assuming the 49ers would give that up.

[Bolt4Knob]

$6 million is a good chunk of change. Molden just signed a $6 million APY deal. Would you rather have a Molden caliber player in FA or a late 3rd round pick?

That's even assuming the 49ers would give that up.

My idea with the draft pick is to have the pick to move up in the first round for a player like TMac or Warren and using Bosa and a bit of cap space to do it.

The Broncos used 9m of cap space for a 2nd and 3rd. Again, its a long shot but also think this would be the type of move Howie Roseman would make - being creative. I think the Chargers would have the space to be creative. Plus the Chargers keep their own picks without having to give up others.

[dmac_bolt]

Actually Mac, I was mostly reacting to Powderblue's claim that a DT like Grant could take a few years to develop...since Grant knows Minter's system, it's not an unreasonable extrapolation to postulate that Grant could develop more quickly playing for the Bolts because he'll be playing under the same DC he had at Michigan...now, in regards to your statement "Harbaugh will draft Wolverines," I made no claim that he will draft them because he "knows them"...

Hi Cat!!! the reason DTs take a couple years to develop is not because it takes them that long to learn their "system" assignments as a nose tackle. It takes the average DL rookie a couple years to learn how to consistently beat the much better NFL OL players who have better skill, technique and physical talent and play at a different level than they saw in college.

"Harbaugh will draft players because he coached (knows) them" has been a constantly posted theme here since his hiring was announced. i do mean constantly. I didn't say you posted it, its just very similar to your post about knowing the system. There is a presumption that picking Michigan players will be better because of one or both of those related reasons.

I counter that picking a UM player is only better if the player is actually better. They are a top program, they get very good players, I'm not saying don't draft Wolverines. I'm saying do it for the right reason. Knowing Jim and knowing scheme are not the right reasons.

you're clever - you get it.