Chiefs at Chargers Pre Game Discussion (Wk 1)

[Topcat]

The Chargers will BYOB for a reason ... they are playing to win in 2025!

As pre-game cameras pan back and before from (a) the oddly-figured and overly toothed Ms Swift + "only-a-mother-can-love" ugly mug of Kelce wearing bizarre art-deco pajamas in public over to (b) the adorably attractive and exotically fresh Ms Beer + Heartthrob Herbert ... a tsunami-like shift in public adoration will wash over even the coldest corporate office in NFL NYC HQ.

Calls will go down to the Ref locker room at halftime to implement a sudden change in (cough) marketing.

Trust in Herbie - EVERYTHING this Golden God does is for our team.

So, are u saying Herbie is the new NFL Golden Boy? Does he also get some questionable "roughing the passer" penalties go his way as part of the deal?

[BayAreaBoltz]

You're underestimating the Chiefs. Understandable because you are a Chargers fan. I lot is going to depend on our offense, and we have
big question marks on our O line which affects everything from running, passing the football and keeping Herbert healthy. They were dominated
by a superior Eagles team in the SB. But we're not the Eagles from last year. No team is for that matter.

True. All true.

[dmac_bolt]

So, are u saying Herbie is the new NFL Golden Boy? Does he also get some questionable "roughing the passer" penalties go his way as part of the deal?

yes, yes I am

[powderblueboy]

You're underestimating the Chiefs. Understandable because you are a Chargers fan. I lot is going to depend on our offense, and we have
big question marks on our O line which affects everything from running, passing the football and keeping Herbert healthy. They were dominated
by a superior Eagles team in the SB. But we're not the Eagles from last year. No team is for that matter.

How am I underestimating the Chief's team when I'm pointing out the wear, tear and injury on individual players? ..... too many starting players.
Chiefs have made hay by generally being the healthiest team entering the playoffs. Where am I wrong on that list, or is it wrong to do this?

Right now, they are pushing their luck to the extreme. Great coaching staff: they can only do so much.

Dynasties end under identical circumstances; you want me to start kicking them when they are down?

[CanadianBoltFan]

How am I underestimating the Chief's team when I'm pointing out the wear, tear and injury of certain players ..... too many starting players.
Chiefs have made hay by generally being the healthiest team entering the playoffs. Where am I wrong on that list?

Right now, they are pushing their luck to the extreme. Great coaching staff: they can only do so much.

Dynasties end under identical circumstances; you want me to start kicking them when they are down?

You lost me a bit when you wrote off Chris Jones. Personally i will be watching him go against our IOL and saying a little prayer

Yes i do want you to feel free to kick the Chiefs to your hearts content when we finally put them down in the AFC West!

[powderblueboy]

And, btw, I have not announced the Chargers to be the Super Bowl favorites, in the AFC.
Problems with their Oline should not be weighed in that balance.

One should be very reluctant to choose the Chiefs once again to represent the AFC this year .... they are getting old, and banged up, and are sticking to what they have,
which eventually happens to all dynasties.
They are ripe for the taking.

Maybe, it will be the donkeys; maybe, they Chiefs can turn back the clock and stave off injuries once again.

That 2nd outcome is becoming increasingly unlikely.

[charger1_sj]

How am I underestimating the Chiefs when I'm pointing out the wear, tear and injury of certain players ..... too many players.
Chiefs have made hay by generally being he healthiest team entering the playoffs.

Right now, they are pushing their luck to the extreme.

Dynasties end under identical circumstances; you want me to start kicking them when they are down?

I can make similar claims about the Chargers. We lost our LT, Harris may not even play or play with one eye, Becton hasn't even taken a snap.
QJ is in concussion protocol. Keenen is what 34 years old. Hampton is a rookie and we don't have a long snapper. In some sense we may
be in worse shape than the Chiefs as our O line may be in shambles.

[powderblueboy]

You lost me a bit when you wrote off Chris Jones. Personally i will be watching him go against our IOL and saying a little prayer

Yes i do want you to feel free to kick the Chiefs to your hearts content when we finally put them down in the AFC West!

You want me to say he'll be the old Chris Jones again from 2 years ago, would that make you happy?

Do a bit of research on the success of DTs at the age of 31 and beyond, and then get back to me.
You'll find a few outliers, but that's about it.

The idea of him no longer being elite will start entering people's heads. Chiefs need him to be elite.

[CanadianBoltFan]

I can make similar claims about the Chargers. We lost our LT, Harris may not even play or play with one eye, Becton hasn't even taken a snap.
QJ is in concussion protocol. Keenen is what 34 years old. Hampton is a rookie and we don't have a long snapper. In some sense we may
be in worse shape than the Chiefs as our O line may be in shambles.

I am worried about our own offensive line not the Chiefs

[charger1_sj]

I am worried about our own offensive line not the Chiefs

We play them at least twice, have not beaten them in quite a while. They still have Mahomes and two burners on
the outside. One of them beat us last year. They were vulnerable last year and ended up the SB. Probably should
have lost 2-3 regular season games. But their D showed up in the POs and beat the league MVP.

[powderblueboy]

I can make similar claims about the Chargers. We lost our LT, Harris may not even play or play with one eye, Becton hasn't even taken a snap.
QJ is in concussion protocol. Keenen is what 34 years old. Hampton is a rookie and we don't have a long snapper. In some sense we may
be in worse shape than the Chiefs as our O line may be in shambles.

I have to disentangle all of this and get back to the main point .... Chiefs have aging stars, players coming off of major injuries,
or players that are chronically injured: each one they will need to lean on.
Each one has associated with him serious doubts about how they'll be able to hold up during the season, or whether their body will any longer respond like it formerly did.
If you want to argue about any one of them being good bets to rely on come December ... then go ahead.

You put Najee in that boat? QJ? How many games did Becton miss last year?

The difference between Kelce/Jones position on their team, and Keenan's on the Chargers should be apparent to you.

If Kelce/Jones are just good players at their positions, would KC be fine with that: the answer is no .... their Super Bowl chances are probably at an end.
And if Keenan is just a solid complimentary piece, would the Chargers be fine with that: the answer is yes.

[powderblueboy]

I can make similar claims about the Chargers. We lost our LT, Harris may not even play or play with one eye, Becton hasn't even taken a snap.
QJ is in concussion protocol. Keenen is what 34 years old. Hampton is a rookie and we don't have a long snapper. In some sense we may
be in worse shape than the Chiefs as our O line may be in shambles.

What do you mean by in some sense: Chargers are either in a better or worse position.

People here are in the habit of running around squaking all day about the Chargers deficiencies on the Oline.
Curious why you didn't characterize the Chief's Oline as potentially being in shambles? They are closer to it.

Trey Smith / Creed Humprhies - there, I've just listed the only dependable performers on that Oline.

Taylor was barely adequate last year and is dealing with a chronic injury; Simmons is a rookie and coming off a career threatening injury to boot.
Kingsley S is a joke ... raw OT from BYU who flamed out at LT last year, and now they are going to put him at a position he's never played before ...

How many here thought that Pip was going to be a slam dunk at guard last year?

To say something that stupid would have been silly; but people here say with a straight face that Kingsley S. will be good ... just you wait and see!

Missing Joe Thuney is going to be a big, fucking deal!