Chiefs at Chargers Pre Game Discussion (Wk 1)

[powderblueboy]

Guys, guys, guys, I know you think I’m kidding but Taylor Swift-Kelce is not losing this game. Impossible. Stop even worrying about our OL and their OL and Chris Jones and positional matchups. This game is already decided.

Focus on week 2.

No, unfortunately I think you actually believe it.

[charger1_sj]

But he was a solid RT 3 years ago, getting a new contract,
and then was put into a bad situation with Clapp and Salyer to his left.

Popper said that Pip put together a solid final 3 - 4 games to that season,
which curiously was after Staley got axed. Coincidence?

More worried about our IOL. The Chiefs have hurt Herbert 2 times and it's not because of the OTs. And look at some of the analysis on
the Chiefs here. Their RBs are bad. Really? Outside of Jones their DL is bad, what? And if we lose what are the excuses going to be?
They beat us with bad RBs and a bad DL?

Lets be realistic. The Chiefs are not what the used to be. That doesn't mean they are all of a sudden a bad team just because they lost
the SB to a superior team. They are still the favorites in the division until proven otherwise. We need at least one win against them
because the division is stronger this year.

The odds of beating Denver and Las Vegas are not as great as last year. Division wins are
going to determine the winner and who makes the POs. Every division game is huge this year as the rest of the schedule looks pretty
darn tough. Not taking the Chiefs lightly.

[sonorajim]

Pipkins was not good at RT 2 years ago which is where he will be playing. Becton is not what you think, he's an injury concern and our backups don't
look so hot. Due to Slater being out, our Oline looks worse than last year not better. Really have to see major improvement from Zion and Bozeman
before we decare that we got better.

I don't share that opinion. IMO we got better. Anyone can get hurt. It's a tad early to downgrade them if they are not. If Zion and Bozeman are a decent avg that's fine. I agree that they had several bad plays last year. They have to find new mistakes this year as they have been trained to avoid the old ones. I'm pretty sure the offense is more in tune with the skills they bring, primarily run blocking.
Last year, we had Herbert and Ladd on offense and sometimes Dobbins and Dissly. That's a LOT different.
But maybe you're right and KC rips our O a new ass. We'll see soon.

[21&500]

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[Formula 21]

I’m feeling really good about this game. I think we’re coming out motivated and physical. And with an extra DB at all times to confuse Mahoney.

Rack it.

[Classic]

More worried about our IOL. The Chiefs have hurt Herbert 2 times and it's not because of the OTs. And look at some of the analysis on
the Chiefs here. Their RBs are bad. Really? Outside of Jones their DL is bad, what? And if we lose what are the excuses going to be?
They beat us with bad RBs and a bad DL?

Lets be realistic. The Chiefs are not what the used to be. That doesn't mean they are all of a sudden a bad team just because they lost
the SB to a superior team. They are still the favorites in the division until proven otherwise. We need at least one win against them
because the division is stronger this year.

The odds of beating Denver and Las Vegas are not as great as last year. Division wins are
going to determine the winner and who makes the POs. Every division game is huge this year as the rest of the schedule looks pretty
darn tough. Not taking the Chiefs lightly.

Chiefs are sleepwalking to 14 wins. We need to worry about them if we meet in the playoffs and a regular season bout wont prove anything. We need to focus on the more winnable division foes. Denver and LV are not basement level losers anymore and jave both proven coaching staffs. 0-1 can easily turn into 0-3 if we are careful.

[powderblueboy]

More worried about our IOL. The Chiefs have hurt Herbert 2 times and it's not because of the OTs. And look at some of the analysis on
the Chiefs here. Their RBs are bad. Really? Outside of Jones their DL is bad, what? And if we lose what are the excuses going to be?
They beat us with bad RBs and a bad DL?

Lets be realistic. The Chiefs are not what the used to be. That doesn't mean they are all of a sudden a bad team just because they lost
the SB to a superior team. They are still the favorites in the division until proven otherwise. We need at least one win against them
because the division is stronger this year.

The odds of beating Denver and Las Vegas are not as great as last year. Division wins are
going to determine the winner and who makes the POs. Every division game is huge this year as the rest of the schedule looks pretty
darn tough. Not taking the Chiefs lightly.

No one is saying they are a bad team here, or have dogs as players.

The offense revolved around Mahomes, Kelce and an elite interior, and everyone else just fit in and did their job, or failed to do it. Now one of the spokes to that elite interior is gone,
and Kelce is in decline .. at 36, and given the number of games he's played, more decline will be very sharp, very soon. Who will step in to replace them as a linchpin? I don't see anyone.

What unit scares you now on their offense outside of QB?

On defense, it revolved around Jones, McDuffie and Bolton - but Chris Jones is the first ballot HOFer from that group, and is the center piece that has made the defense tough.
Jones is reaching an age where decline has already begun, which we saw last year out of him, particularly in the Super Bowl where Becton shut him down.
Everywhere else are guys that are average and replaceable.

If Jones, takes another step down, and no longer plays like a HOFer, which players scare you on that defensive line? Dana, Karlaftis, Nnadi, Tillery, Lot, Gillote?
Fulton, Chamari Conner, jaylen Watson, Brian Cook, Bolton, Chenal ... given time, who aside from McDuffie do you not want to attack?

They are rolling the dice on a rookie OT with a career threatening injury last October, and an oft injured cb from the Chargers, who wore down at the end of last season.
And they are banking on old guys reliving the past.

All are stark signs of a dynasty ending.

They kept on squeeking through tight wins, with big breaks at the end,
entered the playoffs with 100% health (minus Rice) and got favorable calls in one or two big moments against the Bills that were errant,
then got slung up and butchered by the Eagles in the Super Bowl.

All are stark signs of a dynasty ending.

[21&500]

KC - refs [NFL agenda] = no dynasty

[DerwinBosa]

Chief should always be considered dangerous. They have the best player in the NFL at the most critical position.

True, but the Patriots had Tom Brady, and they didn't win any Super Bowls from the 2005 through 2013 seasons. In addition to losing two Super Bowls to the Giants, they got steamrolled by the Ravens twice in the playoffs, and lost convincingly to the Broncos in the 2013 and 2015 AFC Championship Games. The Chiefs will probably always be in the playoffs with Mahomes at quarterback. That doesn't mean that we can't be optimistic about the way our team is improving and have hope that the Chiefs will be in a championship drought for at least a few years.

[SK21209]

2022 was the last time I thought they were the best team at the end of the season. 2023 the Ravens and Niners were better, they just both made a ton of mistakes when they played the Chiefs in the playoffs. Same thing last year, their expected win/loss was 10-7/11-6 based on their underlying metrics but they won a ridiculous number of close games. Had they needed to beat both Buffalo and Baltimore on the road to get to the Super Bowl, I don't think they would have gotten it done.

[sonorajim]

More worried about our IOL. The Chiefs have hurt Herbert 2 times and it's not because of the OTs. And look at some of the analysis on
the Chiefs here. Their RBs are bad. Really? Outside of Jones their DL is bad, what? And if we lose what are the excuses going to be?
They beat us with bad RBs and a bad DL?

Lets be realistic. The Chiefs are not what the used to be. That doesn't mean they are all of a sudden a bad team just because they lost
the SB to a superior team. They are still the favorites in the division until proven otherwise. We need at least one win against them
because the division is stronger this year.

The odds of beating Denver and Las Vegas are not as great as last year. Division wins are
going to determine the winner and who makes the POs. Every division game is huge this year as the rest of the schedule looks pretty
darn tough. Not taking the Chiefs lightly.

KC beat us by 7 pts and 2 pts in two games last year. We weren't exactly crushed and I think many will agree that our offense will be better this year.
I believe our D is better too.
So, Let's play! Go Bolts!

[Formula 21]

McGuffey can’t cover both KA and LM on the same play. Somebody is always gonna be open.