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The ships has sailed on spending on the OLine
And you, of all people, were not for spending on the Oline.
What I actually said was I was not an advocate of shooting the entire cap wad on the 3 best IOL’s like most of the forum wanted.
For example, I specifically said, Hortiz could get two very good FA OL’s for the cost of Linderbaum alone so don’t sign Linderbaum.
Hortiz got Tyler Biadazz for $10M per year instead of Linderbaum for $27M. Hortiz has another $17M to spend on ONE FA IOL according to my GM spreadsheet.
Nowhere did I advocate bottom of the barrel cheap stiffs like this dude.
I would have liked to see Hortiz sign one or more from this list.
Wyatt Teller $8M
Cade Mays $8.3M
Braden Smith $10M
John Simpson $10M
Isaac Seumalo $10.5M
Elgon Jenkins $12M
Jermaine Eluemunor $13M
Alijah Ver-Tucker $14M
David Edwards $15.3M
Incidentally, Zion Johnson is the 2nd most expensive OL FA signed to date at $16.5M per year. I think that was too much for him and would have declined to match it.
There’s middle ground between the most costly FA’s and the cheapest. That’s where I’m at and right now disappointed we might enter the draft needing at least 2 starters for the Oline when there’s so many other pressing needs.
What I actually said was I was not an advocate of shooting the entire cap wad on the 3 best IOL’s like most of the forum wanted.
For example, I specifically said, Hortiz could get two very good FA OL’s for the cost of Linderbaum alone so don’t sign Linderbaum.
Hortiz got Tyler Biadazz for $10M per year instead of Linderbaum for $27M. Hortiz has another $17M to spend on ONE FA IOL according to my GM spreadsheet.
Nowhere did I advocate bottom of the barrel cheap stiffs like this dude.
I would have liked to see Hortiz sign one or more from this list.
Wyatt Teller $8M
Cade Mays $8.3M
Braden Smith $10M
John Simpson $10M
Isaac Seumalo $10.5M
Elgon Jenkins $12M
Jermaine Eluemunor $13M
Alijah Ver-Tucker $14M
David Edwards $15.3M
Incidentally, Zion Johnson is the 2nd most expensive OL FA signed to date at $16.5M per year. I think that was too much for him and would have declined to match it.
There’s middle ground between the most costly FA’s and the cheapest. That’s where I’m at and right now disappointed we might enter the draft needing at least 2 starters for the Oline when there’s so many other pressing needs.
Show me a poster that wanted to spend the wad on THREE Oline -- I don't think most of us wanted to spend on three high paid players
My plan was OC and OG and for the other OG, a solid option like even Penning with Cleveland, and a draft pick
And once Hortiz got Biadasz - a LG making decent money was an option. Obviously McD and the Miami folk are high on Strange.
But I think Hortiz whiffed - could have allocated his resources better. Dalvin Tomlinson is twice as much as Hand - thats $3.8m right there. Keaton Mitchell -nice player - but could you have found a RB3 for half his cost. Same dollars out the door but solidified OLine. And not releasing Bud Dupree - that was just a waste of money.
The hopeful side of me sure wishes this OL crop turns out like the WR crop we had when we went to the superbowl. We had no body on paper and I was worried in traning camp. Mark Seay, who had a nice story about being a NFL player with one kidney but was a street free agent who did not produce in Philly. Tony Martin, an expirament that failed in Miami and NY. Shawn Jefferson, a street free agent, former 9th round pick of another team. Johnnie Barnes, a low round draft pick from a tiny school. And Andre Coleman a tiny human lightning bolt who only returned kickoffs. The sum of that group was greater than the parts and they produced (enough) to get us to our first and only superbowl. (Oh and our tight ends were all crap, too. So we didn't hang on them to bail out the WR).
Hate to share this but we are trying to learn about this guy....
The former undrafted free agent has allowed 52 quarterback pressures in his 580 career pass-blocking snaps to this point, per Pro Football Focus. He has a career pass-blocking efficiency rating of 94.7. To compare, the worst guard in the league with at least 500 pass-blocking snaps last season had a pass-blocking efficiency rating of 95.2.
Mekhi Becton, who the Chargers basically ran out of town, had a pass blocking efficiency rating of 95.5. Throughout his entire career, Awosika has been worse than Becton was last season.
Show me a poster that wanted to spend the wad on THREE Oline -- I don't think most of us wanted to spend on three high paid players
My plan was OC and OG and for the other OG, a solid option like even Penning with Cleveland, and a draft pick
But I think Hortiz whiffed -
You say Hortiz whiffed but foam at me for criticizing him. Have at it. I’m the forum punching bag these days but I don’t mind.
There were several posters that said Linderbaum and whatever else it takes irregardless of cost. You are one of my favorite posters and I’m not accusing you of posting that but surely you saw it.
Honestly, bro, your post is kind of embarrassing....
We had horrific backups on the O-line last year, and you're aiming your nose in the air and tsk tsk-ing because... the signing isn't good enough for you? If a signee isn't all pro, then that signing is worthy of scorn, and you're here to provide it?!? You can only imagine how delightful this is for the rest of us. So typical of you, and persistent.
If Kayode is a scheme fit, and an upgrade over last year's backups, then his signing serves a purpose. Exciting? No. Nobody was asking you to do backflips. But like the half-deaf, half-blind 103 year old geezer, you just can't stop yourself from making certain that everybody knows you don't approve of... whatever the outrage of the moment happens to be.
It's tiresome, grandpa. We gave you a subscription to Netflix. Go watch 'Remember the Titans' and leave the emotionally regulated discussion to those of us who are capable of regulating our emotions.
What I actually said was I was not an advocate of shooting the entire cap wad on the 3 best IOL’s like most of the forum wanted.
For example, I specifically said, Hortiz could get two very good FA OL’s for the cost of Linderbaum alone so don’t sign Linderbaum.
Hortiz got Tyler Biadazz for $10M per year instead of Linderbaum for $27M. Hortiz has another $17M to spend on ONE FA IOL according to my GM spreadsheet.
Nowhere did I advocate bottom of the barrel cheap stiffs like this dude.
I would have liked to see Hortiz sign one or more from this list.
Wyatt Teller $8M
Cade Mays $8.3M
Braden Smith $10M
John Simpson $10M
Isaac Seumalo $10.5M
Elgon Jenkins $12M
Jermaine Eluemunor $13M
Alijah Ver-Tucker $14M
David Edwards $15.3M
Incidentally, Zion Johnson is the 2nd most expensive OL FA signed to date at $16.5M per year. I think that was too much for him and would have declined to match it.
There’s middle ground between the most costly FA’s and the cheapest. That’s where I’m at and right now disappointed we might enter the draft needing at least 2 starters for the Oline when there’s so many other pressing needs.
There is a middle ground between overpaying for Zion Johnson at 16.5 or Aaaron Banks last year at 19 and shopping at the bottom of the barrel. Your list covers that.
As CBF said, there is a middle ground. That said, when you have $100m of frigging cap space, you can afford to not shop at the bottom of the barrell.
I can go down the list of players they signed and allocation of funds to players. I hope to goodness Hortiz nails it - but I think he could have made a move different from Penning or Strange that would have elevated the Oline floor.
As CBF said, there is a middle ground. That said, when you have $100m of frigging cap space, you can afford to not shop at the bottom of the barrell.
I can go down the list of players they signed and allocation of funds to players. I hope to goodness Hortiz nails it - but I think he could have made a move different from Penning or Strange that would have elevated the Oline floor.
I am starting to accept it is what it is...this is how they are going to roll...they don't put a premium on good guards.
I think the system might be enough for the regular system but in the playoffs, where line of scrimmage play dominates, they could be exposed yet again. Lets not forget, we had our big tackles in 2024 playoff against Houston and still got dominated at the line of sctimmage.
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