Oh Boy...I'm gonna get nailed for this one.

[blahblahblah]

For a team that has invested multiple high picks in the defense, we sure aren't getting much of a return.

1. English
1. Liuget
1. Cason
1. Ingram
2. Weddle
2. Gilchrist
2. Mouton
2. Reyes
2. Te'o
3. Waters
3. Butler
3. Wright
3. Taylor

That's 12 top draft picks on defense vs 7 (4 still on team) on the offense. Maybe the problem isn't lack of commitment to the defense but lack of talent evaluation. If more than a couple of the defenders were any good (or healthy) this defense wouldn't be so sorry.

More than anything this should show why we are not a competitive team. The roster is hollow due to failed drafts 2007-2012.

[Beerman]

Seau played 19 seasons.

So yes, just starting out. For comparisons sake.

And yet Butler hasn't even come close to matching Seau's second season.

[oneinchpunch]

And yet Butler hasn't even come close to matching Seau's second season.

Maybe he'll match Seau's second to last season.

The comparison is ridiculous. Weddle has also not been as good as Ronnie Lott.

[Beerman]

Maybe he'll match Seau's second to last season.

The comparison is ridiculous. Weddle has also not been as good as Ronnie Lott.

That's not the point. The point is that you want to pay him like he's a top 5 ILB in the league. He's not. He's not even top 20 given his current production.

[TTK]

For a team that has invested multiple high picks in the defense, we sure aren't getting much of a return.

1. English - BUST
1. Liuget - Promising
1. Cason - Mediocre but GONE
1. Ingram - Unknown
2. Weddle - STUD
2. Gilchrist - BUST
2. Mouton - BUST
2. Reyes - Promising
2. Te'o - Unknown
3. Waters - BUST
3. Butler - Good
3. Wright - Decent
3. Taylor - Unknown

That's 12 top draft picks on defense vs 7 (4 still on team) on the offense. Maybe the problem isn't lack of commitment to the defense but lack of talent evaluation. If more than a couple of the defenders were any good (or healthy) this defense wouldn't be so sorry.

More than anything this should show why we are not a competitive team. The roster is hollow due to failed drafts 2007-2012.

The talent on defense should be there but the fact is that the majority of those players either aren't good or still unproven.

One stud, one good player, two promising players, one decent player out of 12 top picks. That's a recipe for failure right there.

[Den60]

Nobody on the current roster is going to be around when we win the Super Bowl - hell, most of US aren't going to be around, either LOL! - so we might as well get something for him while we can.

That should go for pretty much everyone else on the roster who has trade value then, eh?

[Den60]

And yet Butler hasn't even come close to matching Seau's second season.

Seau was the 5th person taken in the draft. Butler was a third rounder. Context.

[Den60]

That's not the point. The point is that you want to pay him like he's a top 5 ILB in the league. He's not. He's not even top 20 given his current production.

You are being dumb. I do hope it is a temporary affliction.

[richpjr]

You are being dumb. I do hope it is a temporary affliction.

I'd have thought you would have learned by now...

[Fleet]

You are being dumb. I do hope it is a temporary affliction.

You know the rules bro. Sorry man. See you after your vacation. Cheers.

[Beerman]

You are being dumb. I do hope it is a temporary affliction.

Classic remark when you have no facts on your side. Butler has been utterly mediocre this season.

[Guest]

Classic remark when you have no facts on your side. Butler has been utterly mediocre this season.

You'll have to wait until he gets back to continue your argument.