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  • Gwynning_Spirit
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    #49
    Originally posted by Steve View Post
    Nick Novak is 36 years old, so signing him is only a stop gap. He was already slipping when we cut him, and it's 2 seasons later.

    The tradeoff on Lambo on kickoffs is that while he gets a lot of touchbacks coming out to the 25, it also means we don't have to put as much emphasis on ST coverage, which for us right now is a good thing. PResumably, as Lambo developed, you could have him work on hanging the ball deep and directional kicking into one corner which would have made it a lot harder to return. Then you can really take to the attack with the kickoff. Lambo wasn't there, but just like rookie QB struggle throwing the ball downfield, young kickers struggle with their consistency.

    Since you can't just go out and find good kickers, at some point you have to bite the bullet and develop one yourself. Cutting the guys every year or two means we get stuck in a constant loop. But then again, we are always doing that anyway by firing the coaches and bringing in new guys.

    Is Lambo hurt... why would the Chargers bring back a guy 10 years older who has shorter range?
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      #50
      Originally posted by obvious_idiot_bolt View Post


      Is Lambo hurt... why would the Chargers bring back a guy 10 years older who has shorter range?
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      • Gwynning_Spirit
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        Gwynning_Spirit commented
        10-05-2017, 04:51 PM
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        Could be. Seems like Steve Christie days.
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      #51
      Originally posted by obvious_idiot_bolt View Post


      Is Lambo hurt... why would the Chargers bring back a guy 10 years older who has shorter range?
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      • Steve
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        #52
        Originally posted by obvious_idiot_bolt View Post
        Is Lambo hurt... why would the Chargers bring back a guy 10 years older who has shorter range?
        Lambo is a young, inconsistent kicker. Novak may lack leg strength, but he is accurate and is pretty dependable. Going into those late game field goals, I think Novak makes those kicks. Lambo may have had a better chance than Koo, but I think he would miss at least one, if not both

        Older players have the consistency to be successful in high pressure situations, even if they don't have the "wow" factor in leg strength. It is the tradeoff that is made. Rookies have more upside, but the vets help win now. There is also the kickoff thing, but right now the accuracy thing is all about field goals. It's kinda of a name your poison thing right now.

        This isn't a thing that is unique to us. I have several friends at work over the last few years, all the various teams go through this until they find a guy. That guy may hang around for 5-8 years, then rinse and repeat. Some teams bite the bullet, get more years out of the guy, but there is more initial pain.
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        • Gwynning_Spirit
          #52.1
          Gwynning_Spirit commented
          10-05-2017, 07:19 PM
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          I wondered if it wasn't a physical issue, then maybe Lynn just did not want Lambo on the team... for like his work ethic or something. At least have them compete.
          But if it's what 6025 says, that makes sense.
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      • Fleet
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        #53
        Koo will end up with the Bucs.
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          10-06-2017, 01:43 AM
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          Just a shame Aguayo got cut, I’m sure their fans would have loved to have seen that kicking competition take place!
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      • Steve
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        #54
        Originally posted by BlazingBolt View Post

        Seriously? Calling a 44 yard kick "under 45" is not a word game...it is a straight up cold blooded hard as hell indisputable fact. 44 yards is one yard less than 45....FACT.

        Second,I say either kick we win because the point differential was under 3 which happens to be the points either one of those kicks would have scored.....also a FACT. I guess you could argue that IF the first kick made it that the game changes and the Chargers defense would have just given up another touchdown in order to lose instead of holding the Dolphins to field goals like they actually did. But what you can't argue is that if he makes the second kick the Chargers win. Well I guess you could argue the Dolphins score with the one remaining play they might have been able to get off but now that is just absurd.
        a 45 yard kick is not substantially different from kicking at 44 yards. People make arbitrary distinctions when they lump things together, and throwing 45 and longer is just one of those. As far as a kickers approach, I am not sure he would even know the difference when he runs out on the field.

        The FG thing you are correct. Those kicks would have won the game. The difference is that when you have to rely on the kicker, the offense has already failed. If they had done their job, you probably would have won without the need. By that token, if the all 3 units (O, D, and ST) had done better earlier in the game, it wouldn't come down to a 1 play. No play in football is any more valuable than any other. You can still score or give up a TD. The flow of the game makes the ones at the end feel like they are more valuable, but in fact if you play well at the beginning of the game, you can still win the game, depending on how many points you give up.

        If the Chargers can improve the run blocking, pass protection, run fits and tackling to some small degree, or even across the board to all 4 things, then the Chargers can win all of these games fairly wide margins (provided they play out more or less the same way). Our pass defense was pretty good against the teams we have played, and Miami and KC only stuck in it because of their running games.

        The real problem the Chargers have right now is because we are weak on the lines, we cannot impose our will on the other team. The best part of our team is our pass rush, so getting an offensive lead and then forcing the other team to have to play from behind would be our BEST chance of winning. Yes, we would still find some way to lose, but the point being we are playing a style of play that we aren't suited to, and that continue to contribute to us being dramatically worse than even our weak roster is on paper.
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        • BlazingBolt
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          10-09-2017, 10:43 AM
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          So if we play better we win. The other teams get paid too. Just because a game comes down to kicks doesn't mean the offense didn't do the job. Getting in to fieldgoal range is part of the offenses job.
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      • blueman
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        #55
        Originally posted by Steve View Post
        The real problem the Chargers have right now is because we are weak on the lines, we cannot impose our will on the other team. The best part of our team is our pass rush, so getting an offensive lead and then forcing the other team to have to play from behind would be our BEST chance of winning. Yes, we would still find some way to lose, but the point being we are playing a style of play that we aren't suited to, and that continue to contribute to us being dramatically worse than even our weak roster is on paper.
        Extamundo. I think this is why Lynn has really really really tried to establish a running game, to control the clock more. Course, we have to score too for that to work, also run block.
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        • oneinchpunch
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          #56
          Free agent K Younghoe Koo worked out for the Chargers.

          Koo was waived from Los Angeles earlier this month. The Chargers could be looking to replace Nick Novak, who missed a costly Week 6 field goal. Andrew Franks and Jason Myers also visited this week.
          Hashtag thepowderblues
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          • Gwynning_Spirit
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            #57
            They should rework that headline, because that's not how I remember it.

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            • Heatmiser
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              #58
              Novak got dinged. It is not because he pushed a 48 yd fg. Fake news!

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              • Gwynning_Spirit
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                #59
                It would be interesting if it happened though, since our opponent after the bye is JAX and they have Lambo now.
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                • bonehead
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                  #60
                  Originally posted by obvious_idiot_bolt View Post
                  It would be interesting if it happened though, since our opponent after the bye is JAX and they have Lambo now.
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                  Forget it Donny you're out of your element

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