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  • MakoShark
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    #25
    Kelly and Co were doing that before the rule change about substitutions. It was there goal to create mismatches by not allowing the D to sub in players. Today a good offense can still dictate pace without getting ahead of themselves. Under Norv we dictated nothing. Our pace was set by the play clock. If MM brings improves anything I hope its the offensive tempo which starts with getting the damn play in, in a timely manner.
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    • Stinky Wizzleteats+
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      #26
      As i said on the old board, if they get a delay of game now it is most likely one of Norvs old plays that Rivers wanted to keep...
      Go Rivers!

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      • Den60
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        #27
        Originally posted by richpjr View Post
        New board, same ol' Den60!
        Look, the guy hasn't done anything. Not sure if he has ever been a head coach at any level in football (Madden doesn't count). Saw someone somewhere (maybe this thread) compare him to Bobby Ross for God's sake! Not even close. Bobby Ross had a history of being a pretty damned good college coach so the only real question when he was hired is whether his discipline approach would translate to the pros. I know there are many on here whose hatred of Norv was so deeply held they would be happy if we hired Pee Wee Herman as our coach, as long as it meant that Norv was gone. To me I can see Mike McCoy being another Joshy or Haley just as easily as seeing him succeed as an NFL head coach.

        When you look at the coaching history of the Chargers pretty much every single one of them was offensive in origin: Gilman, Coryell, Saunders, Henning, Gilbride, Turner and, now, McCoy while the rest were more of a traditional football coach (not linked too much to either side of the ball): Prothro, Ross, Marty. OK, don't remember much about Svare other than he needed to be sacked. I don't like the hiring of McCoy, I wanted an emphasis on defense for once in the 50+ year history of this team.

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        • Beerman
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          #28
          Hard to argue with Den60 here (I almost choked typing that), but he's right. McCoy hasn't done anything yet. Encouraging so far, but let's see him at least run a preseason game first before dubbing him the next Lombardi.

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          • blueman
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            #29
            Nope, I'm, gonna feel good about the new guy NOW. Just too much crap the past few years not to. If McCoy sucks he can go on the crap pile too, but right now Hope is the word, deal with whatever later.
            Last edited by blueman; 06-19-2013, 11:59 PM.

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            • Mister Hoarse
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              #30
              Originally posted by blueman View Post
              Nope, I'm, gonna feel good about the new guy NOW. Just too much crap the past few years not to. If McCoy sucks he can go on the crap pile too, but right now Hope is the word, deal with whatever later.
              Whatever..

              Later.
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              • Heatmiser
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                #31
                Re:McCoy as a motivator. From what I have read and heard and seen, I don't think he is going to be a rah-rah, cliche speech machine like a Schottenheimer. Or a jump up and down and spit and scream guy like a Cowher. I think the way he is going to motivate is by fear. He seems very no nonsense. Like cutting a player tomorrow is not going to make him think twice. Or sitting a player for screwing up. Jimmy Johnson was interviewed last season and he said fear is a great and vastly underused motivator in the NFL today. Players who got 4th and 5th and 6th chances in the past on this team might find out they only get one now. And in the long run, I would rather have a motivator like that because it is more enduring. Everyone gets tired of the speeches after a while and tunes them out (just ask my kids!)

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                • MakoShark
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                  #32
                  Originally posted by blueman View Post
                  Nope, I'm, gonna feel good about the new guy NOW. Just too much crap the past few years not to. If McCoy sucks he can go on the crap pile too, but right now Hope is the word, deal with whatever later.
                  Hope is a good word to use in reference to the franchise as a whole. Hope is not a strategy. MM got's to make it count when the rubber hits the pavement.
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                  • Mister Hoarse
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                    #33
                    Originally posted by Heatmiser View Post
                    Re:McCoy as a motivator. From what I have read and heard and seen, I don't think he is going to be a rah-rah, cliche speech machine like a Schottenheimer. Or a jump up and down and spit and scream guy like a Cowher. I think the way he is going to motivate is by fear. He seems very no nonsense. Like cutting a player tomorrow is not going to make him think twice. Or sitting a player for screwing up. Jimmy Johnson was interviewed last season and he said fear is a great and vastly underused motivator in the NFL today. Players who got 4th and 5th and 6th chances in the past on this team might find out they only get one now. And in the long run, I would rather have a motivator like that because it is more enduring. Everyone gets tired of the speeches after a while and tunes them out (just ask my kids!)

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                    • Mister Hoarse
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                      #34
                      Originally posted by MakoShark View Post
                      Hope is a good word to use in reference to the franchise as a whole. Hope is not a strategy. MM got's to make it count when the rubber hits the pavement.
                      Time to hit pavement with this rubbers
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                      • Stinky Wizzleteats+
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                        #35
                        I to am hopeful we got the real McCoy for a head coach. At this point it can only be addition by subtraction considering we are replacing an OC playing head coach. Weather McCoy is up to the task is unknown, but not for long.
                        Go Rivers!

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                        • oneinchpunch
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                          #36
                          Originally posted by MakoShark View Post
                          Hope is a good word to use in reference to the franchise as a whole. Hope is not a strategy. MM got's to make it count when the rubber hits the pavement.
                          From what I've read I like the way he ran OTAs and mini camp but I still have no idea if he's a good or bad HC. Really wont know until they start playing real games and even then there might be growing pains for a first time HC. Or it could even be a quick start as opponents don't have tape on McCoy as a HC.
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