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Originally posted by Fleet View PostI was thinking about Joe Burrow and who i think he may compare to a little bit coming out of college. A guy that had some success in a Reid type offense. And that is a guy who can manage a game...and make plays with his legs late in his career. Alex Smith. So many college guys are ultra mobile and not overly amazing passing the ball....but i think Burrow is both. A pocket guy and rpo guy. But is extremely athletic while running and will still have that part of his game late in his career. I wonder how long guys like Murray and Jackson will be effective once they cant run like they do now. Especially LJ.
So Rivers retires. We sell the farm for Burrow. And sign Bienemy to lead the team and change the offense. Bring in a FA OL or 2.
https://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php
:chuckle:Last edited by Topcat; 11-11-2019, 10:02 PM.
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Originally posted by Topcat View Post
Suppose the Bolts finish somewhere in the middle of the pack, with a final record of around 7-9 or so. Suppose they're drafting at around #16 overall. According to a lot of the mocks I've seen so far, Burrow and Tua are the two top picks in the 2020 draft. First of all, do u really think the Bengals or Fins will pass on either of these guys? But, okay, if by some weird reason they do choose to trade down, suppose Burrow actually goes #1 overall, which appears likely at this point. #1 overall is worth 3,000 points on the draft value chart. If the Bolts pick around #16 overall, that pick is worth 1,000 points. Even if we add in our 2nd round pick at #48 overall for 420 points, and our 3rd round pick at #80 overall for 190 points, and ALL the other picks for 70, 34, 21 and 8.2, we get a grand total of 1,743 points, which might get you the #5 overall player at 1,700 points. So, Burrow would have to fall to #5 overall, to a team willing to trade down. Highly unlikely, but okay, possible. Now, there IS one possibility that MIGHT work. If the Bolts sell the whole farm AND add Benji to sweeten the pot, the team picking at #5 overall MIGHT just go for it...
https://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php
:chuckle:
Better than giving up three firsts if we do well the next season and pick in the mid twenties or late twenties
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Originally posted by Topcat View Post
Suppose the Bolts finish somewhere in the middle of the pack, with a final record of around 7-9 or so. Suppose they're drafting at around #16 overall. According to a lot of the mocks I've seen so far, Burrow and Tua are the two top picks in the 2020 draft. First of all, do u really think the Bengals or Fins will pass on either of these guys? But, okay, if by some weird reason they do choose to trade down, suppose Burrow actually goes #1 overall, which appears likely at this point. #1 overall is worth 3,000 points on the draft value chart. If the Bolts pick around #16 overall, that pick is worth 1,000 points. Even if we add in our 2nd round pick at #48 overall for 420 points, and our 3rd round pick at #80 overall for 190 points, and ALL the other picks for 70, 34, 21 and 8.2, we get a grand total of 1,743 points, which might get you the #5 overall player at 1,700 points. So, Burrow would have to fall to #5 overall, to a team willing to trade down. Highly unlikely, but okay, possible. Now, there IS one possibility that MIGHT work. If the Bolts sell the whole farm AND add Benji to sweeten the pot, the team picking at #5 overall MIGHT just go for it...
https://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php
:chuckle:
Worked out for the Eagles and Rams.
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Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
We will be giving up a first in the 2021 draft as well. No brainer.
Better than giving up three if we do well the next season and pick in the mid twenties or late twenties
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Originally posted by Fleet View Post
Are we signing Benjamin again? Cause thats the only way we could add him to a trade. Hes a UFA. Getting a top 2 pick likely costs us 3 1st rounders. And may be one of the reasons nobody here got their wish when big names became available for trade. Ramsey. Tunsil etc. Phins may think Rosen is the guy. They traded for him. Who knows. We would have to sell the farm to move up.Last edited by Topcat; 11-11-2019, 10:23 PM.
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Originally posted by Topcat View Post
Just joking about Benji--but he's under contract until after 2020 season...selling the entire 2020 farm plus next year's #1 is too high a price to pay with all the holes we have to fill, especially on O-line...
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Originally posted by Topcat View Post
So, if we sell the 2020 farm for a total of 1,743 points, and Burrow takes us, by some miracle (with this O-line) to 9-7 in 2020, suppose we move up a few slots to 9-7 or 10-6 overall record, so we're picking #21 overall. That first round pick in 2021 would normally be worth 800 points, but since it's a future pick, those are normally discounted by half price, for only 400 points. So, 1,743 + 400 = 2,143 points. The #1 and #2 overall picks would still be out of reach for us. If Burrow falls to #3 overall, that pick is worth 2,200 points, which might be close enough. It's still way too much to give up, especially with all the holes we have to fill. If there's a solid QB at around #16 overall, maybe we pull the trigger. But we need O-line help badly. I think if we draft a solid OT in round 1 and sign a solid FA OT, and draft an OG somewhere in the top 3 rounds, we will instantly make any QB better, whoever he is, whether Rivers stays with us or not...
We will draft another QB and it will be a high pick. It may not be the#1, it could be someone else in the mid first or a second rounder.
They aren't going to put all their eggs in Sticks basket. That would be foolish. QB should be a big priority in one of the next two drafts.
If they like Tua or Burrow enough to trade up, im for it. Telesco needs to get extra picks or get creative filling the OL void.
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Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
I think your relying too much on that chart. Teams have their own value charts. The one you are referring to is old.
We will draft another QB and it will be a high pick. It may not be the#1, it could be someone else in the mid first or a second rounder.
They aren't going to put all their eggs in Sticks basket. That would be foolish. QB should be a big priority in one of the next two drafts.
If they like Tua or Burrow enough to trade up, im for it. Telesco needs to get extra picks or get creative filling the OL void.
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Originally posted by Fleet View PostI was thinking about Joe Burrow and who i think he may compare to a little bit coming out of college. A guy that had some success in a Reid type offense. And that is a guy who can manage a game...and make plays with his legs late in his career. Alex Smith. So many college guys are ultra mobile and not overly amazing passing the ball....but i think Burrow is both. A pocket guy and rpo guy. But is extremely athletic while running and will still have that part of his game late in his career. I wonder how long guys like Murray and Jackson will be effective once they cant run like they do now. Especially LJ.
So Rivers retires. We sell the farm for Burrow. And sign Bienemy to lead the team and change the offense. Bring in a FA OL or 2.
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Originally posted by Topcat View Post
Just joking about Benji---who wants "Butterfingers" after his bad drops this year--but he's under contract until after 2020 season...selling the entire 2020 farm plus next year's #1 is too high a price to pay with all the holes we have to fill, especially on O-line...
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-ange...benjamin-9913/
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Originally posted by ghost View Post
This is a deep class for offensive lineman in 2020. If we can trade up to get Burrow or stay put and select Herbert, and new OT in the 2nd Round, sounds promising.
TT: 2020 draft will define you.
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