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[Steve]

Linderbaum contract is fully guaranteed.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...ctical-matter#

Linderbaum is a great signing IF you get the player he was. IF he is going to check out, like a lot of the guys who chase the elite money do, then it will bite them in the ass.

Hard to get too excited about the rest of their FA signings. good players, but not really impact guys. Walker and Dean are both blitzing LB who are inconsistent in the rest of their game. Neither takes on blocks particularly well. Unless they are going to just blitz the hell out of these two, they are nice players but you can get marginal guys who will make 90% of the plays these guys can at half the price.

Kwity Paye and Malcolm Koonce are both solid edge rushers who can compliment good players, but neither would make our OT this year tremble with fear, and they are going to challenge Slater and Alt at all.

I like Jalen Nailor, but they have a whole room of slot-ish guys who are nice complimentary guys, but I think you would like some stretch the field to give Bowers room underneath and I don't think they have that, except off of play action.

[beachcomber]

Very curious framing of Zion's decision. I doubt Zion ever once thought he was deciding between Cleveland and Harbaugh.

Zion started the season playing between the great Joe Alt and the very-much-not great Bozeman. A mixed bag, but surely no nightmare. I can't imagine Zion missing the memo that in '26 he'd be playing adjacent to all-pro Slater and above average Biadasz. With a new offensive coordinator. New o-line coach. Top-five AFC team.

You know who had an o-line as bad as the Chargers in 2025? The Cleveland Browns. And they will be scavenging to replace the few good pieces they had this offseason--most all headed out in free agency.

Sure, some fans in L.A. were a bit harsh and unfair to Zion. That's the nature of every fanbase in America. If Zion did have a chance to stay a Charger...he's damn sure going to regret not doing so.

YAC, your usually stellar presentation of things, missed on that Zion actually played between Rashawn and Bradley before Slater went down, and before he had to suffer thru the likes of Deculus and others @LT, and before Harbaugh came to his senses, and/or Jamaree got healthy enough to help out on the other side of Zion, and....

wish I had the exact quote, and Harbaugh def threw Zion under the bus when naming Pips one of the top five starting Olinemen for us, and Gro did the same when inferring that it was Zion's learning curve that was the culprit in not addressing the Texan's stunts in that playoff game, and that was on top of many fuming fans, many of which are on this forum.

not sure I woulda chose the Brownies, and.... he was their only name FA p/u.

[Boltjolt]

Can't argue about the risk.

I read that triceps are not the worst injury to come back from. Nowhere near *****la, the worst soft tissue injury for instance. Patriots must have done some due diligence. Could be a big risk and could be a big home run

Tore both biceps. One during a season which I think was 2023 and in 2025 before the season began.

[Steve]

Trent isn't going to switch positions at age 38. And there's no reason anyone would logically ask him to do: he's pure dominance when he plays.

Let's ask ourselves: If this still unlikely thing comes to pass and the 49ers do attempt to trade Williams...how many teams would be interested. 5? 9? More? And how many of those teams currently have sucky left tackles?

We have two great offensive tackles. Would we to try to outbid the teams with huge needs at this premium position? Pay the massive salary? Give up pick draft capital? Ask our own all-pro tackle to move to a non-premium position? Risk all this for a 38 year old player who has missed games most every season?

I don't see much interesting for LAC with Trent, given the situation, IMO.

Give your balls a tug.

People quit bitching about not signing FA. If you are going to fill holes by signing FA, you CAN'T be picky. The players suck. They are getting really stupid money, for what they are. That is the deal. That is what FA is like EVERY year.

Doing something a little crazy with Williams is one of the only options there is. In truth, it always was. There never was much hope of adding a universally "good" player if FA is the path.

As far as Williams goes, because he is older and has a massive salary, he will be cheap, at least in terms of draft capital. Guys like Minkah Fitzpatrick for a 7th round pick (trade today by the Jets). If the 49ers don't want to pay him, they don't have any leverage. He is low risk to us. The 49ers are stuck with his bonus money on the books, so while he is not cheap in a salary sense, it is less than the Raiders paid for Linderbaum, and Williams is a better player (or was anyway). We can get him for ~$25 mill (plus a bit), based on his current deal. Both the Redskins and 49er both seriously considering moving him to OG (he played a big chunk of one offseason in Washington at OG). He is an elite OT, but like Slater, he could be a great OG.

And he is not long for the football world. He is 37, so he is not going to tie down a lot of long term risk. The downside risk is that he may decline rapidly. But when he is just about the only choice left, he is still the best chance of having a good IOL player (or Slater). If Slater (or Williams) doesn't love the idea, it is only for a year or two max.

There are not that many OG who you can draft and start day 1. Finding 2 in the same draft is almost impossible, and the demand is there, so don't be suprised if there is a run on OG and some reaches ahead of us. We aren't the only team who wanted to sign FA OG.

[YAC]

Here's a quick build I put together, just for the offense. It's a tad heavy on offensive investment, but nothing too crazy.

My amateurish effort comes with these justifications:

1. Concepcion is the draft's version of Rashid Shaheed. Super returner with real merit as a receiver. Speedy, but slick/savy route runner
2. Strange plus an Iowa lineman (whom never seem to let you down). Stephens. Strange. Let the two battle it out.
3. Elgton Jenkins was well-above average guard before Packers pushed him to center
4. The league is leaning into deploying two, even three tight ends at the same time. Would Gadsden, Kolar and Goedert constitute the richest assembly of Tight End talent in the league?
5. Burford as swing tackle as he's from SF, knows and fits scheme. 38 starts w/SF.
6. Brock Hoffman has been solid for Dallas (friends tell me), and can play center + guard.
7. Dalevon Campbell almost made the roster last year. He's a bigger receiver. If he can shine in ST I promote him from the PS onto my 53.
8. The seductive skill set of Trey Lance is fun, but I might prefer more of an established/trusted guy if Herbert misses a few games. Thus: Bridgewater.


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[YAC]

Give your balls a tug.

Not sure what my balls have to do with it, LOL.

People quit bitching about not signing FA. If you are going to fill holes by signing FA, you CAN'T be picky. The players suck. They are getting really stupid money, for what they are. That is the deal. That is what FA is like EVERY year.

Agree 100%

Doing something a little crazy with Williams is one of the only options there is. In truth, it always was. There never was much hope of adding a universally "good" player if FA is the path.

I like many of your ideas, just don't like this one. We'll just need to agree to disagree. We all spitball different ideas here. It's fun. Sometimes those ideas generate push-back. Is what it is. Healthy debate.

[YAC]

wish I had the exact quote, and Harbaugh def threw Zion under the bus when naming Pips one of the top five starting Olinemen for us, and Gro did the same when inferring that it was Zion's learning curve that was the culprit in not addressing the Texan's stunts in that playoff game, and that was on top of many fuming fans, many of which are on this forum.

Maybe you are privy to more of the back-story narrative than I am. All the offense suffered under G-RO's design and leadership, for sure.

I defended Zion from some piraña on this site who said he was worthless...totally sucked. He did not suck! I would have been happy to have him back at around $14 mil per. But I'm also ok that he's gone.

[SAY OW 55]

Hated seeing Osemiah leaving great defensive end edge. We got a great trade for him. Why didn’t we pay to bring him back? Seems like we could’ve afforded him.

[northerner]

Hated seeing Osemiah leaving great defensive end edge. We got a great trade for him. Why didn’t we pay to bring him back? Seems like we could’ve afforded him.

we may have seen whatever made the Ravens trade him away. who knows. i figured that we would try to keep him.

[dmac_bolt]

Like last FA?

Kidding aside, Hortiz hasn’t been able to find cheap value players in FA on offense. Especially the O line. Not last year, and now he’s down to some really below average G choices right now. Im glad he didn’t resign Zion cause he’s no better but this isn’t a good way to go into the draft. Teams now know the chargers want a true #1 WR really, really bad and they need Guards bad too, no matter who they sign at this point cause none of the ones left are long term answers. Hortiz has telegraphed this thing to everyone.

Every move doesn’t have to be a long term answer, especially in a year he only has 5 picks. Some can be just to live to fight another day (2027). If his long tern plan is to draft and develop IOL, all the more reason to sign older vet bridge players to get him there.

I’m waiting till Saturday to evaluate his work. As of today, the offense is better than what we fielded vs NE - better FB, better OC, better TE (vs Diss/Fisk). but much of that improvement is just returning IR OTs he didn’t do anything for. OG hasn’t moved much yet.

[Bolt4Knob]

Every move doesn’t have to be a long term answer, especially in a year he only has 5 picks. Some can be just to live to fight another day (2027). If his long tern plan is to draft and develop IOL, all the more reason to sign older vet bridge players to get him there.

I’m waiting till Saturday to evaluate his work. As of today, the offense is better than what we fielded vs NE - better FB, better OC, better TE (vs Diss/Fisk). but much of that improvement is just returning IR OTs he didn’t do anything for. OG hasn’t moved much yet.

Fair assessment. Have to give him the entire week to see what he does

The Strange signing made sense to me. Signed for 6.5m and hopefully Hortiz drafts an OG by R4 -- and between Strange, the draft pick, even Cleveland, thats your RG competition

[Velo]

The Raiders are trying to rebuild their roster over night. They had the money to spend and they spent it. Some of their deals are questionable - giving that kind of money to Linderbong seems insane. We'll see. They aren't done. They have a boatload of draft capital. We'll see how it all works out. But their roster is going to be completely different. If Mendoza is like a Jayden Daniels or Bo Nix rookie, they could from worst .500ish in one season.