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Love Tomlin. He has this wierd problem with WR, though. Just WR. Look at the history of talented, top tier WR he has developed and how they all turned into mental cases. The latest is Pickins and Johnson who seem to be taking plays off. There are some mashups of them and it is pretty bad.
TGLike, how am I a traitor? Your team are traitors.
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Originally posted by ChargersPowderBlue View PostKelce hopes we hire a trash coach. What a douchebag. I will enjoy him and his team getting dethroned, when the time comes.
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Originally posted by Heatmiser View PostLove Tomlin. He has this wierd problem with WR, though. Just WR. Look at the history of talented, top tier WR he has developed and how they all turned into mental cases. The latest is Pickins and Johnson who seem to be taking plays off. There are some mashups of them and it is pretty bad.
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Have reservations about Tomlin
don't see how he's this great leader and have multiple knuckleheads disrespect the locker room behind his back.
comes off to me as a Staley-type with better game management skills. What steve calls a "likership" guy.
do his players have any real fear of Tomlin? I doubt it.
he just has better ownership.P1. Block Destruction - Ogbonnia
P2. Shocking Effort - Eboigbe
P3. Ball Disruption - Ford
P4. Obnoxious Communication - Henley
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Originally posted by 21&500 View PostHave reservations about Tomlin
don't see how he's this great leader and have multiple knuckleheads disrespect the locker room behind his back.
comes off to me as a Staley-type with better game management skills. What steve calls a "likership" guy.
do his players have any real fear of Tomlin? I doubt it.
he just has better ownership.
He’s suffered bad drafts by his FO, the talent on that team has declined. He still doesn’t have a legit QB. I don’t know current Rooney nepo’s at all, the “Rooney ownership” of yore everyone always lauds as the best … been long gone for a long time.“Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”
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Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post
Nothing about him seems Staley to me. Not boosting him or ripping him, just noting he seems the polar opposite of Staley. Not to mention he’s been doing it for what, over 20 yrs? He’s won a SB. He isnt the micro-design-detail nerd manager Staley thought he was, at all. He’s a delegator leader. The locker comments are still troubling to hear though.
He’s suffered bad drafts by his FO, the talent on that team has declined. He still doesn’t have a legit QB. I don’t know current Rooney nepo’s at all, the “Rooney ownership” of yore everyone always lauds as the best … been long gone for a long time.
people want to immediately give him credit for "handling" that drama for years, but he didn't handle shit, he didn't have the hard conversations that led to any line in the sand.
At least Staley benched a few under performing guys and exiled a headcase in JCJ once he committed the football sin of refusing to play.
not trying to argue that Staley is better by any means, but instead I'm suggesting the general narrative around Tomlin being a leader is off. Even when he had the killer Bs, he didn't come through, but now he gets the pass because he doesn't have a qb..okay.P1. Block Destruction - Ogbonnia
P2. Shocking Effort - Eboigbe
P3. Ball Disruption - Ford
P4. Obnoxious Communication - Henley
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Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
All valid, but do you think a good leader tolerates all the BS locker room drama that's been festering underneath for as long as it did?
people want to immediately give him credit for "handling" that drama for years, but he didn't handle shit, he didn't have the hard conversations that led to any line in the sand.
At least Staley benched a few under performing guys and exiled a headcase in JCJ once he committed the football sin of refusing to play.
not trying to argue that Staley is better by any means, but instead I'm suggesting the general narrative around Tomlin being a leader is off. Even when he had the killer Bs, he didn't come through, but now he gets the pass because he doesn't have a qb..okay.
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