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[Berserker76]

Chicago? I don't see Nagy's position as secure.

Could be, or the Giants. I think the Jags brain-pool is too incompetent to hire him.

[JOJAX85]

Pretty sure Fangio is going to get a HC gig.

He can get one AFTER he gets us a Super Bowl ring.

[Caslon]

He can get one AFTER he gets us a Super Bowl ring.

As if it’s decided already. Staley calls the defensive plays. Why does Staley have a DC?

[UglyTruth]

First off I call BULLSHIT.

PFF has Herbert ranked 13th overall in terms of the # of batted passes with 22. Tom Brady (40), Kyler Murray, Derek Carr, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Matt Stafford, Dak Prescott, Kirk Cousins, Jalen Hurts, Patrick Mahomes all have more than Justin. Mac Jones has the same number (22). If you have another site, I suggest you post it, but PFF is my sources on this, as they are the only site I have ever seen for batted passes.

In terms of % of passes batted at the line, he is even lower, ranking 23rd (I used only the top 20% of qualifying passers). Herbert's rate (3.4%) is somewhat less than half that of Brady (5.6%) and Rodgers (6.5%). Joe Burrow is also about 6.4%. Mac Jones has a 4.2% of his passes batted.

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The easiest way to fix it is just call different plays.

Early in the season is when a lot of the passes were being batted, and we were throwing a lot of short quick passes. he was set up close to the line because he had to get the ball out quick. Quick passes have short quick steps for his drop so that he is ready to throw when the receiver comes out of the short routes break. 9 of his 22 batted passes came in the 1st 5 games when we were doing the shorter passes. He didn't have any deflected vs KC, but that was the game that Norton played great, and Herbert really wasn't harassed that much.

Now that the OL is protecting him better, he is dropping deeper, throwing deeper and he can get the ball out so it doesn't get deflected. Our pass protection is really pretty good, and we are keeping a lot of pressure off him by running the ball well too. All of that keeps the DL on the line and gives Herbert room to work.

PFF must have it wrong. Herbert has the most batted passes in the league. And his batted passes have mostly all come on 3rd or 4th down aka the worst possible times.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2021/advanced.htm

(click on accuracy and then it shows batted passes)

And short passes have to be a part of an offense. Can’t just throw deep and intermediate all game imo. With Rivers, we had a functional passing offense at all three phases (short, intermediate and deep).

[UglyTruth]

I knew it! I never bought in on this excessive passes blocked hysteria, thank you for confirming what I be seeing with my two lying eyes.

Top 3 in batted passes but okay it’s “hysteria”.

And don’t believe your eyes, remember that men (like you and me) lie, women lie but the numbers never do.

[Formula 21]

I sure do - pass knocked at the goal line - can’t remember that LB’s name but he was far from great. Boss Ross got so much more out of that squad than could be expected, it was a remarkable coaching result. They weren’t that good, and we knew if we were honest. That Steeler team wasn’t that good either though.

The 49ers - yeah, they were. Talk about a curb stomp in the SB … ouch.

Gibson. Best play in Charger’s history.

[dmac_bolt]

That was not Rodney H. ?

No, it was some journeyman slow white dude LB … Dennis Gibson I believe?

Edit: ah, i see several already posted before I got to this page. Thanks and sorry for redundancy

[WindsorUK]

Gibson. Best play in Charger’s history.

Best feeling EVER!!!!

[blueman]

Best feeling EVER!!!!

That was so epic, unmatched.

[Stinky Wizzleteats+]

PFF must have it wrong. Herbert is #3 in the league in batted passes. And his batted passes have mostly all come on 3rd or 4th down aka the worst possible times.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/qbs-with-most-batted-passes

I’m surprised he’s only #3, I would have thought he’s #1 so I admit he’s better here than I thought overall but still terrible. He’s also 2-3+ inches taller than the two QBs ahead of him so really inexcusable.

Short passes have to be a part of an offense. Can’t just throw deep and intermediate all game imo. With Rivers, we had a functional passing offense at all three phases (short, intermediate and deep).

That page you linked is for number of passes thrown this season. Herbert does not have 608 batted passes no QB has 600+ batted passes.

[UglyTruth]

That page you linked is for number of passes thrown this season. Herbert does not have 608 batted passes no QB has 600+ batted passes.

Good catch, I edited the post.

[dmac_bolt]

That was so epic, unmatched.

That play was the peak of 50 years of Charger fandom for me. No doubt. The Miami 2OT game was the next. I missed the 60s …