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Nope, I missed it. You'll have to give me a recap.

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I don't believe TB is 3rd.
Even less than DEN is 4th !

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I don't believe TB is 3rd.
Even less than DEN is 4th !

Boy did I misread that one. I thought it was a score in some year past.

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Maybe in the CFL !
Or in NHL, Avalanche vs Lightning.
I should have put rd after the 3 and th after the 4.
My bad !

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Now we're getting somewhere

Deshaun Watson to Answer Whether He Had Sex with Massage Therapists Who Supported Him: Judge



Robyn Merrett
Wed, April 6, 2022, 11:20 AM


Cleveland Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson has been ordered to reveal if he had sex with the 18 massage therapists who issued statements in support of the NFL athlete following several criminal complaints filed against him.

The order was announced in a Texas courtroom Tuesday, USA Today reports. Watson, who has been accused by 22 women of sexual misconduct during therapy sessions that occurred in 2020 and 2021, has 30 days to comply.

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NFL mock drafts 2022: Compare latest from Mel Kiper, Daniel Jeremiah, Todd McShay, other experts

Joe Rivera
10 hours ago • 17 min read




Yes, there is a draft in here. In fact, there are several.
With the NFL cooling off from free agency before it reheats for the 2022 NFL Draft, the constant shuffling of the top of the board continues. With no surefire No. 1 overall pick, few analysts and experts agree on who could be the top selection, or any of the top five picks, or even 10.
BIG BOARD: Ranking the top 150 prospects for 2022 NFL Draft
With the NFL franchise tag deadline come and gone, the blockbuster trades of Deshaun Watson and Russell Wilson, the start of free agency and a number of other prominent trades done, the NFL Draft is the next tentpole in the offseason.
The pre-draft process has revealed a meteoric rise for Georgia pass rusher Travon Walker, who is a favorite of many to land in the top 10 of this year's draft. One mock draft even has Walker going No. 1 overall.
Here's how six of the latest mock drafts — from TSN's Vinnie Iyer, ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. and Todd McShay, NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah and Charles Davis and The Athletic's Dane Brugler — stack up:
Vinnie Iyer's mock draft (The Sporting News)

Iyer's latest mock draft was released April 4:

1	Jacksonville Jaguars	Aidan Hutchinson	EDGE	Michigan
2	Detroit Lions	Kyle Hamilton	S	Notre Dame
3	Houston Texans	Evan Neal	OT	Alabama
4	New York Jets	Kayvon Thibodeaux	EDGE	Oregon
5	New York Giants	Ikem "Ickey" Ekwonu	OT/G	NC State
6	Carolina Panthers	Charles Cross	OT	Mississippi State
7	New York Giants (via CHI)	Derek Stingley	CB	LSU
8	Atlanta Falcons	Travon Walker	DE/DT	Georgia
9	Seattle Seahawks (from DEN)	Malik Willis	QB	Liberty
10	New York Jets (via SEA)	Sauce Gardner	CB	Cincinnati
11	Washington Commanders	Chris Olave	WR	Ohio State
12	Minnesota Vikings	Andrew Booth Jr.	CB	Clemson
13	Houston Texans (via CLE)	Jermaine Johnson II	EDGE	Florida State
14	Baltimore Ravens	Tyler Linderbaum	C	Iowa
15	Philadelphia Eagles (via MIA)	Kenny Pickett	QB	Pittsburgh
16	New Orleans Saints (from IND via PHI)	Garrett Wilson	WR	Ohio State
17	Los Angeles Chargers	Jordan Davis	DT	Georgia
18	Philadelphia Eagles (from NO)	Nakobe Dean	LB	Georgia
19	New Orleans Saints (from PHI)	Trevor Penning	OT	Northern Iowa
20	Pittsburgh Steelers	Desmond Ridder	QB	Cincinnati
21	New England Patriots	Jameson Williams	WR	Alabama
22	Green Bay Packers (via LV)	Drake London	WR	USC
23	Arizona Cardinals	Devonte Wyatt	DT/DE	Georgia
24	Dallas Cowboys	Kenyon Green	G	Texas A&M
25	Buffalo Bills	Trent McDuffie	CB	Washington
26	Tennessee Titans	David Ojabo	EDGE	Michigan
27	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	George Karlaftis	EDGE	Purdue
28	Green Bay Packers	Jahan Dotson	WR	Penn State
29	Kansas City Chiefs (from SF via MIA)	Treylon Burks	WR	Arkansas
30	Kansas City Chiefs	Boye Mafe	EDGE	Minnesota
31	Cincinnati Bengals	Trey McBride	TE	Colorado State
32	Detroit Lions (via LAR)	Devin Lloyd	LB	Utah

Noteworthy:
— Not one, but two: the Packers take two first-round wide receivers, USC's Drake London and Penn State's Jahan Dotson. The two have different skillsets that fit the Packers' offense perfectly.
— The Eagles grab a new quarterback, courtesy of the Lincoln Highway, selecting Pittsburgh's Kenny Pickett with the No. 15 overall pick.
— The Chiefs do their best to mitigate the exit of Tyreek Hill, drafting Arkansas' Treylon Burks with the No. 29 overall pick.
Mel Kiper Jr.'s mock draft (ESPN)

Kiper's latest mock draft was released March 22:

1	Jacksonville Jaguars	Aidan Hutchinson	DE	Michigan
2	Detroit Lions	Kyle Hamilton	S	Notre Dame
3	Houston Texans	Ikem Ekwonu	OT	N.C. State
4	New York Jets	Drake London	WR	USC
5	New York Giants	Evan Neal	OT	Alabama
6	Carolina Panthers	Travon Walker	DE	Georgia
7	New York Giants (via CHI)	Kayvon Thibodeaux	DE	Oregon
8	Atlanta Falcons	Garrett Wilson	WR	Ohio State
9	Seattle Seahawks (via DEN)	Charles Cross	OT	Mississippi State
10	New York Jets (via SEA)	Sauce Gardner	CB	Cincinnati
11	Washington Commanders	Derek Stingley Jr.	CB	LSU
12	Minnesota Vikings	Trent McDuffie	CB	Washington
13	Houston Texans (via CLE)	Jordan Davis	DT	Georgia
14	Baltimore Ravens	Tyler Linderbaum	C	Iowa
15	Philadelphia Eagles (via MIA)	Jermaine Johnson II	DE	Florida State
16	Philadelphia Eagles (via IND)	Chris Olave	WR	Ohio State
17	Los Angeles Chargers	Trevor Penning	OT	Northern Iowa
18	Baltimore Ravens (via NO)	Kenny Pickett	QB	Pittsburgh
19	Philadelphia Eagles	Devin Lloyd	ILB	Utah
20	Pittsburgh Steelers	Malik Willis	QB	Liberty
21	New England Patriots	Jameson Williams	WR	Alabama
22	Green Bay Packers (via LV)	Kenyon Green	G	Texas A&M
23	Arizona Cardinals	Devonte Wyatt	DT	Georgia
24	Dallas Cowboys	Tyler Smith	OT/G	Tulsa
25	Buffalo Bills	Jahan Dotson	WR	Penn State
26	Tennessee Titans	Zion Johnson	G/C	Boston College
27	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	Breece Hall	RB	Iowa State
28	Green Bay Packers	Treylon Burks	WR	Arkansas
29	Miami Dolphins (via SF)	Nakobe Dean	ILB	Georgia
30	Kansas City Chiefs	George Karlaftis	DE	Purdue
31	Cincinnati Bengals	Travis Jones	DT	Connecticut
32	Detroit Lions (via LAR)	Matt Corral	QB	Ole Miss

Noteworthy:
— Breece Hall sneaks into the first round as the lone running back taken.
— With their first-round pick acquired in the Deshaun Watson trade, the Texans pick Georgia's Jordan Davis at No. 13.
— The Packers draft a WR to replace Davante Adams, taking Treylon Burks at No. 28.
Daniel Jeremiah's mock draft (NFL Network)

Jeremiah's latest mock draft was released March 22:

1	Jacksonville Jaguars	Aidan Hutchinson	EDGE	Michigan
2	Detroit Lions	Travon Walker	EDGE	Georgia
3	Houston Texans	Kayvon Thibodeaux	EDGE	Oregon
4	New York Jets	Sauce Gardner	CB	Cincinnati
5	New York Giants	Ikem Ekwonu	OT	N.C. State
6	Carolina Panthers	Evan Neal	OT	Alabama
7	New York Giants (via CHI)	Jermaine Johnson II	EDGE	Florida State
8	Atlanta Falcons	Garrett Wilson	WR	Ohio State
9	Seattle Seahawks (via DEN)	Charles Cross	OT	Mississippi State
10	New York Jets (via SEA)	Drake London	WR	USC
11	Washington Commanders	Kyle Hamilton	S	Notre Dame
12	Minnesota Vikings	Jordan Davis	DT	Georgia
13	Houston Texans (via CLE)	Trent McDuffie	CB	Washington
14	Baltimore Ravens	George Karlaftis	EDGE	Purdue
15	Philadelphia Eagles (via MIA)	Devonte Wyatt	DT	Georgia
16	Philadelphia Eagles (via IND)	Devin Lloyd	LB	Utah
17	Los Angeles Chargers	Trevor Penning	OT	Northern Iowa
18	New Orleans Saints	Kenny Pickett	QB	Pittsburgh
19	Philadelphia Eagles	Boye Mafe	EDGE	Minnesota
20	Pittsburgh Steelers	Derek Stingley Jr.	CB	LSU
21	New England Patriots	Jameson Williams	WR	Alabama
22	Green Bay Packers (via LV)	Chris Olave	WR	Ohio State
23	Arizona Cardinals	Treylon Burks	WR	Arkansas
24	Dallas Cowboys	Zion Johnson	IOL	Boston College
25	Buffalo Bills	Breece Hall	RB	Iowa State
26	Tennessee Titans	Tyler Smith	OT	Tulsa
27	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	Travis Jones	DT	Connecticut
28	Green Bay Packers	Jahan Dotson	WR	Penn State
29	Miami Dolphins (via SF)	Tyler Linderbaum	C	Iowa
30	Kansas City Chiefs	Arnold Ebiketie	EDGE	Penn State
31	Cincinnati Bengals	Andrew Booth	CB	Clemson
32	Detroit Lions (via LAR)	Nakobe Dean	LB	Georgia

Noteworthy:
— There can only be one: Pittsburgh's Kenny Pickett is the sole first-round quarterback taken in Jeremiah's latest mock.
— The deep pass-rush class is pretty evident: There are seven first-round EDGE talents taken, including going 1-2-3 at the top.
— The Falcons make an immediate pick to replace Calvin Ridley, taking Ridley clone Garrett Wilson with the No. 8 pick.
Todd McShay's mock draft (ESPN)

McShay's latest mock draft was released on April 5:

1	Jacksonville Jaguars	Aidan Hutchinson	DE	Michigan
2	Detroit Lions	Travon Walker	DE	Georgia
3	Houston Texans	Kayvon Thibodeaux	DE	Oregon
4	New York Jets	Garrett Wilson	WR	Ohio State
5	New York Giants	Ikem Ekwonu	OT	NC State
6	Carolina Panthers	Kenny Pickett	QB	Pittsburgh
7	New York Giants (via CHI)	Kyle Hamilton	S	Notre Dame
8	Atlanta Falcons	Drake London	WR	USC
9	Seattle Seahawks (via DEN)	Evan Neal	OT	Alabama
10	New York Jets (via SEA)	Sauce Gardner	CB	Cincinnati
11	Washington Commanders	Chris Olave	WR	Ohio State
12	Minnesota Vikings	Derek Stingley Jr.	CB	LSU
13	Houston Texans (via CLE)	Charles Cross	OT	Mississippi State
14	Baltimore Ravens	Jermaine Johnson II	DE	Florida State
15	Philadelphia Eagles (via MIA)	Trent McDuffie	CB	Washington
16	New Orleans Saints (from IND via PHI)	Trevor Penning	OT	Northern Iowa
17	Kansas City Chiefs (via LAC)	Jameson Williams	WR	Alabama
18	Philadelphia Eagles (via NO)	Devin Lloyd	ILB	Utah
19	New Orleans Saints (via PHI)	Jordan Davis	DT	Georgia
20	Pittsburgh Steelers	Malik Willis	QB	Liberty
21	New England Patriots	Nakobe Dean	ILB	Georgia
22	Green Bay Packers (via LV)	Jahan Dotson	WR	Penn State
23	Arizona Cardinals	Treylon Burks	WR	Arkansas
24	Dallas Cowboys	George Karlaftis	DE	Purdue
25	Buffalo Bills	Andrew Booth Jr.	CB	Clemson
26	Tennessee Titans	Christian Watson	WR	North Dakota State
27	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	Devonte Wyatt	DT	Georgia
28	Green Bay Packers	Kenyon Green	G	Texas A&M
29	Los Angeles Chargers (from SF via MIA, KC)	Zion Johnson	G/C	Boston College
30	Kansas City Chiefs	Boye Mafe	OLB	Minnesota
31	Cincinnati Bengals	Tyler Linderbaum	C	Iowa
32	Detroit Lions (via LAR)	Desmond Ridder	QB	Cincinnati

Noteworthy:
— The Lions get their passer of the future at No. 32 overall, selecting Cincinnati's Desmond Ridder.
— The Bengals continue to shore up their offensive line, taking center Tyler Linderbaum at No. 31.
Charles Davis' mock draft (NFL Network)

Davis' latest mock draft was released on April 5:

1	Jacksonville Jaguars	Travon Walker	DL	Georgia
2	Detroit Lions	Aidan Hutchinson	EDGE	Michigan
3	Houston Texans	Kayvon Thibodeaux	EDGE	Oregon
4	New York Jets	Ikem Ekwonu	OT	NC State
5	New York Giants	Evan Neal	OT	Alabama
6	Carolina Panthers	Malik Willis	QB	Liberty
7	New York Giants (via CHI)	Jermaine Johnson II	EDGE	Florida State
8	Atlanta Falcons	Garrett Wilson	WR	Ohio State
9	Seattle Seahawks (from DEN)	Sauce Gardner	CB	Cincinnati
10	New York Jets (via SEA)	Derek Stingley Jr.	CB	LSU
11	Washington Commanders	Kyle Hamilton	S	Notre Dame
12	Minnesota Vikings	Trent McDuffie	CB	Washington
13	Houston Texans (via CLE)	Charles Cross	OT	Mississippi State
14	Baltimore Ravens	Jordan Davis	DT	Georgia
15	Philadelphia Eagles (via MIA)	Devonte Wyatt	DT	Georgia
16	New Orleans Saints (from IND via PHI)	Chris Olave	WR	Ohio State
17	Los Angeles Chargers	Trevor Penning	OT	Northern Iowa
18	Philadelphia Eagles (from NO)	Andrew Booth	CB	Clemson
19	New Orleans Saints (from PHI)	George Karlaftis	EDGE	Purdue
20	Pittsburgh Steelers	Kenny Pickett	QB	Pittsburgh
21	New England Patriots	Devin Lloyd	LB	Utah
22	Green Bay Packers (via LV)	Jahan Dotson	WR	Penn State
23	Arizona Cardinals	Drake London	WR	USC
24	Dallas Cowboys	Zion Johnson	IOL	Boston College
25	Buffalo Bills	Jameson Williams	WR	Alabama
26	Tennessee Titans	Tyler Smith	OT	Tulsa
27	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	David Ojabo	EDGE	Michigan
28	Green Bay Packers	Kenyon Green	OG	Texas A&M
29	Kansas City Chiefs (from SF via MIA)	Boye Mafe	EDGE	Minnesota
30	Kansas City Chiefs	Christian Watson	WR	North Dakota State
31	Cincinnati Bengals	Tyler Linderbaum	C	Iowa
32	Detroit Lions (via LAR)	Matt Corral	QB	Ole Miss

Noteworthy:
— A surprise at the very top: Georgia's Travon Walker goes No. 1 overall to the Jaguars.
Dane Brugler's mock draft (The Athletic)

Brugler's latest mock draft was released on March 8:

1	Jacksonville Jaguars	Ikem Ekwonu	OT	NC State
2	Detroit Lions	Aidan Hutchinson	EDGE	Michigan
3	Houston Texans	Travon Walker	EDGE	Georgia
4	New York Jets	Evan Neal	OT	Alabama
5	New York Giants	Ahmad Gardner	CB	Cincinnati
6	Carolina Panthers	Trevor Penning	OT	Northern Iowa
7	New York Giants (via CHI)	Charles Cross	OT	Mississippi
8	Atlanta Falcons	Kyle Hamilton	FS	Notre Dame
9	Denver Broncos	Kayvon Thibodeaux	EDGE	Oregon
10	New York Jets (via SEA)	Jermaine Johnson	EDGE	Florida State
11	Washington Commanders	Kenny Pickett	QB	Pittsburgh
12	Minnesota Vikings	Derek Stingley Jr.	CB	LSU
13	Cleveland Browns	Garrett Wilson	WR	Ohio State
14	Baltimore Ravens	Jordan Davis	DT	Georgia
15	Philadelphia Eagles (via MIA)	Trent McDuffie	CB	Washington
16	Philadelphia Eagles (via IND)	George Karlaftis	EDGE	Purdue
17	Pittsburgh Steelers (via LAC)	David Ojabo	EDGE	Michigan
18	New Orleans Saints	Malik Willis	QB	Liberty
19	Philadelphia Eagles	Chris Olave	WR	Ohio State
20	LAC from Pittsburg	Zion Johnson	OG	Boston College
21	New England Patriots	Devin Lloyd	LB	Utah
22	Las Vegas Raiders	Drake London	WR	USC
23	Arizona Cardinals	Devonte Wyatt	DT	Georgia
24	Dallas Cowboys	Treylon Burks	WR	Arkansas
25	Buffalo Bills	Bernhard Raimann	OT/G	Central Michigan
26	Tennessee Titans	Jameson Williams	WR	Alabama
27	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	Kenyon Green	OG	Texas A&M
28	Green Bay Packers	Travis Jones	DT	Connecticut
29	Miami Dolphins (via SF)	Nakobe Dean	LB	Georgia
30	Kansas City Chiefs	Lewis Cine	FS	Georgia
31	Cincinnati Bengals	Tyler Linderbaum	OC	Iowa
32	Detroit Lions (via LAR)	Desmond Ridder	QB	Cincinnati

Noteworthy:
— Brugler has Kenny Pickett, even post-NFL Combine, as the first QB off the board, with Malik Willis falling all the way to No. 18.
— The Cowboys (preemptively) replace Amari Cooper with Treylon Burks at No. 24. Burks had a less-than stellar combine, perhaps fueling the fall.
— From Bearcats to big cats: At the back end of the first round, the Lions take Desmond Ridder with Pick No. 32. That feels about right for the Bearcat QB, who some believe is a lock for the second round.

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So we trade our 17 to Pitt and don't get their 20 in the last mock? Lol, I don't think so.
Brugler is high. Has to be a typo but pundits disregard us all the time.

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So we trade our 17 to Pitt and don't get their 20 in the last mock? Lol, I don't think so.
Brugler is high. Has to be a typo but pundits disregard is all the time.

I can easily see Pitt jumping NO to get Willis at 17. But we have to get #20 and a 3rd. A great deal for both clubs IMO.

[QSmokey]

So we trade our 17 to Pitt and don't get their 20 in the last mock? Lol, I don't think so.
Brugler is high. Has to be a typo but pundits disregard is all the time.

We don't even know what the trade details are, or did I miss it? Agree though, with you and F21. The only other possible alternative is we get (something like) Pitts' 2nd and 3rd this year and 1st next year. Is that reasonable? Honestly, I doubt we trade away #17 for no 1st-round pick in 2022.

And what do we get, additionally, from KC for trading down from 17 to 29? Their 2nd? Doesn't seem good enough to me. Why should we help KC get stronger at WR?

[powderblueboy]

So we trade our 17 to Pitt and don't get their 20 in the last mock? Lol, I don't think so.
Brugler is high. Has to be a typo but pundits disregard is all the time.

Hey, i like that scenario slightly more than most of the other mocks.:tired:

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We don't even know what the trade details are, or did I miss it? Agree though, with you and F21. The only other possible alternative is we get (something like) Pitts' 2nd and 3rd this year and 1st next year. Is that reasonable? Honestly, I doubt we trade away #17 for no 1st-round pick in 2022.

And what do we get, additionally, from KC for trading down from 17 to 29? Their 2nd? Doesn't seem good enough to me. Why should we help KC get stronger at WR?

Take their two 1sts and give them our second rounder for next year.

:hello:

[Lone Bolt]

Yea, typo in Bruglers...and another beat writer stalking me....I should get a footnote if we draft Zion...:whistlin:

[Boltjolt]

Yea, typo in Bruglers...and another beat writer stalking me....I should get a footnote if we draft Zion...:whistlin:

Actually that has been beaches idea for months.

It's not a bad idea. I just haven't heard anyone on staff even remotely mention moving Fieler to RT til Staley gave a little hint that Fieler could possibly play elsewhere.

I just thought it wasn't going to happen and now instead of 100% thinking it won't happen, I'm at 70% it won't happen lol. But who knows.
This is the first draft in a long time that we really could go in any direction in the first round.