Perfect QB for Chargers

[richpjr]

That would be ideal, again we fans have no idea on Stick's development. Beating out Cardale seemed like a low bar, but Cardale had a heck of a lot of practice time over the years, than Stick.

Jones outplayed Stick in the preseason games by a far amount. Clearly the coaching staff feels that Stick has much higher upside than Jones though, which is why the decision was made to keep him.

[Boltjolt]

Jones outplayed Stick in the preseason games by a far amount. Clearly the coaching staff feels that Stick has much higher upside than Jones though, which is why the decision was made to keep him.

I agrez surprisingly Cardale for the first time didn't look like crap and he did outplay Stick. Agree the staff sees more upside with him.

[beachcomber]

Two tiers of need if a SB this year is the goal:
(Not gonna count depth cuz everyone needs it)

tier 1 - QB1, LT, RB1, WR3, LB (we absolutely need all these)

tier 2 - LG, DT (depends on Lamp and Tillery)

Our roster honestly doesn’t have plenty of weaknesses. Except the problem is, we aren’t great at anything. We are roughly average/ above average at everything. No elite defense, no elite coaching, no elite passing game, no elite run game.

QB1 * Cam
LT * Peters/Thomas
RB1 * Hyde/Swift
WR3 * Aiyuk
LB * Evans

if you're worried 'bout LG, draft Wirfs instead of Thomas.

and re: Tillery.... can still fall back on JJ/Cortez there.

[beachcomber]

What are you talking about. We've made some improvements in free agency and we have the draft. Yeah, the head coach is not spectacular but then again we need to hire some good assistant coaches especially if we draft a qb. I didn't expect to go 5-11 last year and we had some very definite setbacks that took the wind out of us.

the thing is, as a GM you have to plan/prepare for "setbacks." will admit that last year, did suspect that the both of Scott and Feeney could well be adequate stop gaps if the either of Pouncey or Okung went down, and.... they weren't, and.... given both vets injury history, they were injury concerns going forward, and we were unfortunately not sufficiently prepared for their losses.

and ditto for this year.... is Bulaga much if any diff than Okung @this time last year.... by my take Bryan is likely to play @least one good year, but then come year two or three, will not be surprised to see him miss a slew of games, as has been his track record over his career.... he's due.

same for Denzel... we didn't sign Bostic, and upon closer inspection don't think Vigil spells Perryman very well, and ditto for Drue for that matter.... what you gonna do/who yah gonna call y'all ??

who spells Linval, Derwin, Keenan, Ekeler/JJ, or even Hunter, etc. ??

the more I look over the current landscape of things, how do you justify paying out big contracts like Keenan (Larry Fitzgeraldesque) or Bosa (JJ Wattageness) ??

as a GM nowadays, think you're hard pressed to hold onto your big name talent, as seems much better to be able to fill out your roster ??

let go of your big names instead of overpaying market value, and learn how to stockpile draft picks.... part of the learning curve for team TommyJohn.

[gzubeck]

I almost puked when I saw this latest mock. Somebody has us trading up to 23 with patriots for Love and giving up our second this year and second next year. I'd rather have Hurts or Eason at #37.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001107680/article/fourround-2020-nfl-mock-draft-six-trades-shake-up-round-1?EC=85478091-8e09-461a-a023-b6b2b39a4690&mi_u=gzubeck@gmail.com&mi_ecmp=NFL_Daily_Newsletter

[Boltjolt]

I almost puked when I saw this latest mock. Somebody has us trading up to 23 with patriots for Love and giving up our second this year and second next year. I'd rather have Hurts or Eason at #37.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ily_Newsletter

Saw that, it's Chad Reuters. Terrible mock for us. And he screwed it up. He, said we give our second this year and next but in that mock he has the Pat's getting our third as well. Terrible.

[gzubeck]

Saw that, it's Chad Reuters. Terrible mock for us. And he screwed it up. He, said we give our second this year and next but in that mock he has the Pat's getting our third as well. Terrible.

Might as well use some of that draft amo for the #2 or #3 pick by moving up from #6. I just can't see the value there.

[WindsorUK]

Does Winston sign a 1 year, make good deal? To reset his value?
Is AL interested in a former number 1 pick who's just had LASEX?
I've never seen him play: is he good when he's good? Or worse when he's bad?
Is he better than Tyrod?

[Boltjolt]

Does Winston sign a 1 year, make good deal? To reset his value?
Is AL interested in a former number 1 pick who's just had LASEX?
I've never seen him play: is he good when he's good? Or worse when he's bad?
Is he better than Tyrod?

AL isn't interested in a turnover machine. In 5 seasons he has 88 INTs and 50 fumbles

[ChargingBolts]

AL isn't interested in a turnover machine. In 5 seasons he has 88 INTs and 50 fumbles

That first stat I thought Lasik might have helped (as he never threw INT's in college, one of the best ever) but 50 FUMBLES? Is that true?! Wow, that means he holds the ball way too long and if the QB Whisperer Ariens couldn't help him no wonder TB moved onto TB.

[like54ninjas]

That first stat I thought Lasik might have helped (as he never threw INT's in college, one of the best ever) but 50 FUMBLES? Is that true?! Wow, that means he holds the ball way too long and if the QB Whisperer Ariens couldn't help him no wonder TB moved onto TB.

It is.

2015	TB	16	84.2	312	535	58.3	4,042	252.6	7.6	22	15	27	190	3	1
2016	TB	16	86.1	345	567	60.8	4,090	255.6	7.2	28	18	35	239	6	5
2017	TB	13	92.2	282	442	63.8	3,504	269.5	7.9	19	11	33	207	11	6
2018	TB	11	90.2	244	378	64.6	2,992	272.0	7.9	19	14	27	157	3	2
2019	TB	16	84.3	380	626	60.7	5,109	319.3	8.2	33	30	47	282	9	4
Total	-	72	86.9	1,563	2,548	61.3	19,737	274.1	7.7	121	88	169	1,075	32	18

2015	TB	16	54	213	13.3	3.9	21	6	3	1
2016	TB	16	53	165	10.3	3.1	14	1	4	1
2017	TB	13	33	135	10.4	4.1	17	1	4	1
2018	TB	11	49	281	25.5	5.7	18	1	4	1
2019	TB	16	59	250	15.6	4.2	26	1	3	1
Total	-	72	248	1,044	14.5	4.2	26	10	18	5

2015	TB	6	0	0
2016	TB	10	0	0
2017	TB	15	0	0
2018	TB	7	0	0
2019	TB	12	0	0
Total	-	50	0	0

[Boltjolt]

It is.

2015	TB	16	84.2	312	535	58.3	4,042	252.6	7.6	22	15	27	190	3	1
2016	TB	16	86.1	345	567	60.8	4,090	255.6	7.2	28	18	35	239	6	5
2017	TB	13	92.2	282	442	63.8	3,504	269.5	7.9	19	11	33	207	11	6
2018	TB	11	90.2	244	378	64.6	2,992	272.0	7.9	19	14	27	157	3	2
2019	TB	16	84.3	380	626	60.7	5,109	319.3	8.2	33	30	47	282	9	4
Total	-	72	86.9	1,563	2,548	61.3	19,737	274.1	7.7	121	88	169	1,075	32	18

2015	TB	16	54	213	13.3	3.9	21	6	3	1
2016	TB	16	53	165	10.3	3.1	14	1	4	1
2017	TB	13	33	135	10.4	4.1	17	1	4	1
2018	TB	11	49	281	25.5	5.7	18	1	4	1
2019	TB	16	59	250	15.6	4.2	26	1	3	1
Total	-	72	248	1,044	14.5	4.2	26	10	18	5

2015	TB	6	0	0
2016	TB	10	0	0
2017	TB	15	0	0
2018	TB	7	0	0
2019	TB	12	0	0
Total	-	50	0	0

You chart has NO catagories so hard to tell what is what, but i do know the fumbles are on the bottom chart on the left having seen the numbers earlier. I bolded and changed the color of those.