TPB's Quarantine GM's Mock Draft Review

[wu-dai clan]

Allow me to satisfy your curiosity....the pick would have been Justin Herbert...unlike some on this board, I have no problem at all taking Herbert...would feel better about the pick than I would Tua....but if Tua is there, I think the Bolts snap him up.

We'll just see what goes down in Roger's basement.

[electricgold]

Tua vs. Mahomes coupled with a Tyrod bridge in the best stadium in the league for the next decade in the AFC West? I could live with that! Otherwise it will be Love or Herbert vs. Mahomes for the next decade?

Wouldn't mind picking up Jonathan Taylor if possible as well, a good OT and a speed burning WR, if we come away with something like that in this draft, I'm all in.

[Velo]

This thread is results from a forum wide mock draft we had with members picking for teams like a real draft. You put your mock own Chargers mock in here where we have a section for that somewhere else. You just have to look for the tile.

Got it, I now have.

[Charge!]

Chargers

1. Tua Tagovailoa QB Alabama
2. D"Andre Swift RB Georgia
3. KJ Hamler WR/KR Penn St.
4. Logan Wilson LB Wyoming

First, I'll defend my picks now, instead of responding to praise and criticism from each member...picking for the Bolts, I am obviously in the hot seat...

General: I didn't go the way I wanted...I based my picks off of BPA, need, and what I think the Chargers would do. Myself? I am actually very open minded about this draft...Tua, Herbert, Simmons and Hurts, Simmons and no QB, OT, BPA....it's all good. Just don't trade up, and don't take Love in the first...and I think I'll be OK. New era folks...gotta keep an open mind.

1. Tua...yea, it's a risk. He might really be brittle...or did those stupid ankle surgeries, which he only had cuz he was playing for Nick fucking Saban, cause his body, while healing, to leach valuable calcium from his hip and sacral area, causing weakness there? By the way...steroids will do the same damn thing, just ask Bo. Sit the kid for a year, let him heal properly...pro diet and training...and you might have the next great signal caller. Going into new stadium and new era, the team needs a new face. Tua would be a good one. So yea...if he is there, I think the Bolts pull the trigger.

2. Swift...I think TT and Lynn are gonna live....or die...by the run the next few years. Whether it's with Tyrod or a rookie, it all hinges on the rushing attack...and all we have right now is JJ and Eke. Not a bad tandem, but if just one of them goes down, we are fucked...and JJ hasn't proven durable yet...and Ekelor is much better as a flexible weapon, 3rd down back, and change of pace back. As important as the run game will be, and you have one of the best players in the draft fall to you in the second? I think the Bolts would go for him or Taylor here.

3. KJ Hamler...I surprised myself here. I don't like players under 185 pounds at any position...even kicker...but holy crap, this kid is a marvel...and I tried to think like TT. Super speedy weapon to take the top off defenses, and a much needed return specialist...and in the 3rd? This is a little late for Hamler, so some good value...depending on which board you are using. I am sure some teams dropped him way down due to size. Maybe he doesn't make his whole rookie contract...but if he does break...I bet he makes some head turning plays before he craps out...if he craps out...I bet the Chargers think he is worth a shot.

4. Logan Wilson...I thought it very interesting we visited with this kid at the Senior bowl...and then also made it out to his pro day at Wyoming, where there is literally no one else worth looking at. I also thought it interesting that 21 other teams showed up to the same pro day for an apparent 3rd day pick? By all accounts this 240 pounder tested well athletically...but plays even faster...which is probably due to instincts and football intelligence. Floor is quality backup and special teams player...ceiling is eventual QB of the defense, and anchor for the LB corps.

Honestly, I tried to emulate the Chargers....that isn't my draft at all....but I think it reflects what TT and Lynn would do...and honestly, if Tua actually pans out...and Hamler is as tough a 175lbs as they say he is...that could be one hell of a draft...historic, even. We'll see....

I think you did great! Tua and Burrow are clearly special elite QB's barring injury..... I fully understand any of the Chargers fans who want to avoid Tua because they are afraid of injuries like so many other Chargers players. Chargers have drafted or acquired many players that never had major injuries and they instantly got hurt early on as soon as they put on a Chargers uniform.... sometimes in their first practice...... the important thing about drafting players with injury history is you dont draft solid to average players with injury history.....its not wortn the risk...... but if if you are going to gamble on an injured player make sure he is an elite, generational player when healthy.... Bill Polian(and many other experts) believe Tua when healthy is a generational QB...... and I agree so I would take that chance(and I'm 59 so I dont want to wait 10-20 more years to find another great QB).

By drafting Hebert or Love, a GM would not be gambling on greatness, he would be gambling on/"hoping for" massive improvement for 2 players who have not ever shown consistency or elite passing ability yet against average to weak college competition...... how many QB's miraculously improve once they get to NFL?.... not many for sure.....if any...

Hebert has nothing going for him except physical stats like size speed and arm strength....... in college he never stepped up (as a passer in big games), he never threw with touch and anticipation, his dec vision making was slow but generally safe players have to be wide open for him to fire a bullet pass at them..... but that kind of slow will not fly in the speedy NFL (not for long league)........ Hebert will be, but should not be drafted in first round...... If one wants a strong armed QB with mobility but very inconsistent accuracy, and if one is happy waiting 5+ more years(to see Hebert fail to magically become great) before we draft an elite QB, then Hebert is your man..... lol

Love is similar to Hebert in that he should be drafted in 2nd round or later, but due to QB shortage, he will also be taken way higher than he should be. But I will say that even though love shows less consistency than Hebert, Love also shows a much higher possible upside, because he has a knack for making off-script plays that sometimes end up great and other times end up disasters..... lol

Fromm will likely be a solid NFL backup for many years...... the other QB's in this draft are great passers.....

I love the Swift pick...... With ONLY 2 small rotational backs on the roster, Chargers have a major need for a real FT all round RB who can run, catch, block and run with power and elusiveness. A great RB is a huge help taking some pressure off of Taylor and a rookie QB when he is ready...... in later picks grabbing a 2nd all round bigger power RB/FB might also be needed to improve depth and short yardage situations....

That WR has elite speed which is what Chargers desperately need as a 3rd/4th WR, for reverses, WR screens, and the return game....... in later picks, a second fast WR with some size would also help since we currently only have 2 consistent WRs..... and a bunch of other guys who did nothing last year.....

I never heard of that LBer but I've seen him taken in other mocks and sounds like the kind of Lber Chargers might be interested in ....especially if he is a great tackler......

and at some point it would be great if Chargers could add another TE who can actually catch...... so we are not doomed when Henry gets hurt like he has every year....

of course all of this came to be, ....because Wu passed on Tua allowing Chargers to run up to podium to take him!...... ;-)

[Critty]

So if that were Chargers draft.

I really really like Swift-RB pick in rd 2.
Doubt he last to 37 in real draft.

Im spooked that Tua-QB & Hamler-WR will be on IR half their careers. QB is most likely the pick at #6. Herbert makes sense.

Wilson-LB looks like a solid pick.

But if you don't go QB at all.....and Simmons is gone.
Jeudy-WR in the slot.
Think he really helps Tyrod move the chains.

Allen-WR
Henry-TE
Ekeler-RB
Jeudy-Slot
Williams-WR

[beachcomber]

I think you did great! Tua and Burrow are clearly special elite QB's barring injury..... I fully understand any of the Chargers fans who want to avoid Tua because they are afraid of injuries like so many other Chargers players. Chargers have drafted or acquired many players that never had major injuries and they instantly got hurt early on as soon as they put on a Chargers uniform.... sometimes in their first practice...... the important thing about drafting players with injury history is you dont draft solid to average players with injury history.....its not wortn the risk...... but if if you are going to gamble on an injured player make sure he is an elite, generational player when healthy.... Bill Polian(and many other experts) believe Tua when healthy is a generational QB...... and I agree so I would take that chance(and I'm 59 so I dont want to wait 10-20 more years to find another great QB).

Fromm will likely be a solid NFL backup for many years...... the other QB's in this draft are great passers.....

and at some point it would be great if Chargers could add another TE who can actually catch...... so we are not doomed when Henry gets hurt like he has every year....

not sure 'bout generational, but wasn't Verrett elite ??

and why so much trust in Polian ?? every time I listened to him, he was right up there w/Casserly for the you've got to be kidding me award (how does that guy get paid ?)

and hard pressed to believe that Fromm will be anything but a (perhaps very) successful starting NFL QB.

and have you checked out TE Harrison Bryant.... seems pretty Chargeresque by my suspicion/take.

and last.... agree, would love D'Andre @RB.

[wu-dai clan]

not sure 'bout generational, but wasn't Verrett elite ??

and why so much trust in Polian ?? every time I listened to him, he was right up there w/Casserly for the you've got to be kidding me award (how does that guy get paid ?)

and hard pressed to believe that Fromm will be anything but a (perhaps very) successful starting NFL QB.

and have you checked out TE Harrison Bryant.... seems pretty Chargeresque by my suspicion/take.

and last.... agree, would love D'Andre @RB.

Bill Polian is in the Pro Football HOF
for Building Winning Football Teams in
--Carolina
--Buffalo
--Indianapolis.

[Boltjolt]

Bill Polian is in the Pro Football HOF
for Building Winning Football Teams in
--Carolina
--Buffalo
--Indianapolis.

So has Beathard. Dont mean either havent made bad picks. We all know Beathard has and he is on the hook for drafting arguably the biggest bust in history.

But i will give Polian a lot more credit than Casserly. Casserly was awful as a GM and i dont even like listening to his rubbish and i agree......how the hell does he get paid to talk about the draft?
He never gave David Carr even a decent OL after drafting him first over all. Maybe Carr wouldnt have ever been what they thought....and probably wouldnt but Casserly never gave him the chance to show it.

Casserly is the kind of GM you wish on the Raiders, Chiefs and Donkies.

[wu-dai clan]

Jaxsonville Jaguars

1-9. Javon Kinlaw, DT / S. Carolina. (just what they need on their IDL)
1-20. Trevon Diggs, CB/ Alabama (Lost Bouye and Ramsey, no brainer)
2-42. Jacob Eason, QB / Washington (Minshew, stinshew....they need competition and more talent)
3-73. John Simpson, OG / Clemson ( IOL needs a boost and he will really help the run game)
4-116. Gabriel Davis, WR/ UCF (Big body WR and they can cut loose oft injured Lee if they choose and save 5+ mill)
4-137. Colby Parkinson, TE /Stanford (They signed Eifert who is injured often and is Meh quite frankly, O'Shaughnessy coming off ACL tear and Oliver didnt produce)
4-140. Davion Taylor, OLB /Colorado (Depth and a talented player, will challenge for a starting role)
Excellent mining of talent. Simpson is underrated. Davion Taylor + Myles Jack. Hmmm. Eason. Hmmm. Eyebrow raising and makes perfect sense at the same time.

Atlanta Falcons

1-16. K'Lavon Chaisson, Edge/ LSU ( Beasley they let walk, underperformed after a strong rookie year and the D was near bottom in sacks)
2-47. Noah Igbinoghene CB/ Auburn (They need big time CB help )
3-78. Malik Harrison, LB / Ohio st ( defense needs boosting all over and think he really helps them at SLB)
4-119. Antonio Gibson, RB/WR/ Memphis (Gurley has been wearing down and Gibson is electric though will maybe play more WR but has great vision, reminds me of Marshall Faulk)
4-134. Jake Hanson OC / Oregon (Mack is nearing 34 and last year of his deal so need some grooming behind him)
Chaisson. Beasley. McKinley. Look how teams have to redraft the same position. Maybe Hanson is a little early IMV, but these are all studs.

Indianapolis Colts

2-34. Jalen Reagor WR /TCU (This guy is a player and great return man...Rivers needs more weapons)
2-44. Terrell Lewis DE, / Alabama ( Has had some injuries but very productive and Indy needs to bolster their pas rush)
3-75. Harrison Bryant, TE / Florida Atlantic ( Ebron moved on so Indy replaces his production to go w/ Jack Doyle with a very athletic TE who is a good blocker and can do many other things)
4-122. Khalil Davis, DT / Nebraska (Colts GM loves DL so w/ the addition of Buckner they get some needed depth or a future starter next to him)

Can Reagor make it to #37 in the real draft ? Always a good idea to distract defense from TY Hilton. Lewis is low floor very high ceiling, and it is easy to see Chris Ballard do this. I see Bryant as absolutely perfect for Rivers. I like Kkalil for us a lot as a PON pick (penetrating 1TECH) maybe a round later, but that is picking at nits.

The draft chops are apparent all over the place on this bounty of prospects for three teams. I am reminded of Fleet's drafts. Value. Slotting. BPA/PON.

[wu-dai clan]

San Francisco
13 OT Jedrick Wills. Staley will retire soon, or not be as effective. Mcglinchey has the athleticism to take over at LT.
new Right Tackle to keep the outside runs dominant.
31 QB Jalen Hurts. I'm just not a Jimmy G fan, I don't trust him and I know somewhere deep inside, Lynch doesn't either.
I think with Hurts' rushing ability, it's a natural fit in their already dominant run game.
Wills makes perfect sense. Staley is old as dirt. Hurts. Never would have thought of it...but...yeah...ok...I can see this too. Shanahan's love QB Bootleg.
Houston
40 WR Shenault. love this guy's potential. he isn't Hopkins, but is simply a weapon. I recently mocked him for us.
57 TE Hunter Bryant. obviously, I made the pick before the Texans traded it to LAR for Cooks. I know they have a crowded TE room.
but none seem to be very effective outside of whats his face (name escaping me) who finally started producing last year.
Bryant will be another weapon that will convince Watson to stay.
97 comp pick. iOL Robert Hunt. Texans have a hold at OC and RG and possibly LG. Hunt can fill one of those.
very mobile and strong kid with experience at OT too. better run blocker than pass at this point. needs coaching but a starter soon.
111 Rashard Lawrence. toughness. leadership. motor. those three traits are needed for a Texans defense with an aging JJ Watt.
heads up defender with a nice first step. can penetrate and man two gaps.
isn't spectacular at either, but solid. starter by 2021, maybe sooner.
Good job ! Texans fans would take you over BOB. Shenault. Gotta do it. Bryant. Unique talent. You won't find value late but you can find a receiving TE in Round 6. Rashard Lawrence. Must have after DJ Reader went and got his contract. ROBERT HUNT. Climber. Now Top 50. Is this the number 1 steal ? This guy is a cerebral Olineman and he's onery. Good idea for the new RB. Hmmm. Throw in David Johnson. Brandin Cooks. What if BOB is right ?

fire at will.

I fired at will.

[Boltjolt]

Can Reagor make it to #37 in the real draft ? Always a good idea to distract defense from TY Hilton. Lewis is low floor very high ceiling, and it is easy to see Chris Ballard do this. I see Bryant as absolutely perfect for Rivers. I like Kkalil for us a lot as a PON pick (penetrating 1TECH) maybe a round later, but that is picking at nits.

The draft chops are apparent all over the place on this bounty of prospects for three teams. I am reminded of Fleet's drafts. Value. Slotting. BPA/PON.

I was contemplating Amik Robertson(who Fleet picked shortly after) where I picked Hanson for Atlanta and Robertson is the better player of the two but Hanson can be a good player for them and a year behind Mack if he doesn't need to fill in for him will do him good. Mack's contract ends after this season. That was my thinking.

As for Reagor, I don't know but i hope he makes it to us at 37. And if he does, I hope they draft him.

[wu-dai clan]

So has Beathard. Dont mean either havent made bad picks. We all know Beathard has and he is on the hook for drafting arguably the biggest bust in history.

But i will give Polian a lot more credit than Casserly. Casserly was awful as a GM and i dont even like listening to his rubbish and i agree......how the hell does he get paid to talk about the draft?
He never gave David Carr even a decent OL after drafting him first over all. Maybe Carr wouldnt have ever been what they thought....and probably wouldnt but Casserly never gave him the chance to show it.

Casserly is the kind of GM you wish on the Raiders, Chiefs and Donkies.

My number one thought about Polian has always been that he had the balls to trade Marshall Faulk in his prime, and draft Edgerrin James, because of contract and scheme fit.

I HOPE LIKE HELL THAT TT SHOWS THESE KIND OF BALLS IN A LITTLE OVER ONE WEEK !!