Which one looks more like a winner, Tua or Herbert?

[blueman]

Anyone can drive fast in a Ferrari. Tua had a ton of talent around him. Would he be in the conversation if he played at a lesser school? He looked good for sure, but his medical history is a huge red flag. Multiple broken wrists, several high ankle sprains that had to be surgically repaired, dislocated hip with broken pelvis. In what was essentially less starts than 2 full NFL seasons. I wouldn’t pick him in top 10, not because he isn’t good. He is a high risk

Burrow 0.5.

[Boltjolt]

I’d argue part of being a winner is making wise decisions and leveraging whatever advantages/ talents you may have to position yourself to play for a winning institution like Alabama.
many qbs want to play for winners, Tua won the position.
tua won over Saban to shift the offensive philosophy towards a pass centered attack vs his trusted D and run game.
in contrast, Herbert chose Oregon, presumably, partly because it was home. That’s nice and admirable, but is that a decision a winner leans towards?
maybe, maybe not.
Tua is a winner who is attracted to and attractive TO winners.
I’ll take my chances.

You can argue that all day, but he won't win if he can't stay on the field. Hurricanes QB Ken Dorsey never lost a college game. He didn't fair to well in the NFL. But talent isn't Tua's problem. Getting broken is.

Just baffles me how posters want to get rid of or not resign those that were hurt often and call them busts but are OK drafting a known China doll from college #6 at the most important position.

[beachcomber]

one year rental w/Cam.... hands down.

Tua's a hurler/tosser…. Herb's a rocket man w/not enough know how.

no how, no way.... either one of 'em.

2021 will be here soon enough.... patience grasshoppers.

(take your medicine.... you sent PR walkin'.... coulda, woulda, shoulda had a SB run.... now it's wait 'til next year)

[beachcomber]

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cam+newton+vlog&ru=%2fvideos%2fsearch%3fq %3dcam%2bnewton%2bvlog%26qpvt%3dcam%2bnewton%2bvlo g%26FORM%3dVDRE&qpvt=cam+newton+vlog&view=detail&m id=55868EDB7412C2CD233F55868EDB7412C2CD233F&&FORM= VDRVRV

can't tell me dude doesn't want LA.... and (perhaps) badly,

[21&500]

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cam+newton+vlog&ru=%2fvideos%2fsearch%3fq %3dcam%2bnewton%2bvlog%26qpvt%3dcam%2bnewton%2bvlo g%26FORM%3dVDRE&qpvt=cam+newton+vlog&view=detail&m id=55868EDB7412C2CD233F55868EDB7412C2CD233F&&FORM= VDRVRV

can't tell me dude doesn't want LA.... and (perhaps) badly,

well YA
with all the women's clothing stores in LA 'n all!

[gzubeck]

Herbert...why? he'll be available and he's trainable. Smart Kid and probably has more fire in him than most people think. Tua could be the best #2 backup QB in the NFL...no need to play him 16 games just pay him $8 mill a year as a reserve parachute for when your team makes the playoffs and you won't skip a beat. LOL!

[FarAwayBoltFan]

...which one looks like a winner?

Strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

[chargerkdb]

Burrow 0.5.

Possibly. Played lights out but small sample size

[powderblueboy]

Herbert has accuracy issues that will persist in the NFL. Herbert's laid back personality is not ideal for the position.
Herbert fits what lynn wants and is healthy. If Carson Wentz is a model, that health might not last.
Still, Wentz is the safer choice. If your goal is just get to the playoffs, Wentz is your guy.

He will probably never be placed in the elite group of qbs, nor the secondary group.

An uninspiring choice. It would tell you Telesco is just interested in survival.

[Classic]

It's definitely Tua.

[Classic]

one year rental w/Cam.... hands down.

Tua's a hurler/tosser…. Herb's a rocket man w/not enough know how.

no how, no way.... either one of 'em.

2021 will be here soon enough.... patience grasshoppers.

(take your medicine.... you sent PR walkin'.... coulda, woulda, shoulda had a SB run.... now it's wait 'til next year)

So we tank 2020 because you don't like any QB in this draft? Awful idea.

[powderblueboy]

So we tank 2020 because you don't like any QB in this draft? Awful idea.

Beachcomber is lead conductor on the Cam Newton express.
He was working out in Los Angeles recently: Cam Newton, not beachcomber (a NoCal guy)