Oliver

[TABF]

I guess I am different than some. I want both Mathews and Donald Brown back to go along with BO.

Yup... As we have shown, you can never have enough Running backs (Or Centers, or, Line Backers, or CB's, etc etc etc...)

[TTK]

Totally forgot Mack was on the Raiders today. He was invisible (to me at least).

Honestly, I never understood all the hype about Mack to be taken that high.

[Yubaking]

Honestly, I never understood all the hype about Mack to be taken that high.

I think it happened when he ate Ohio State's lunch during his final season.

He wasn't much of a factor yesterday, but he seemed like a great prospect coming out of college in that he appeared strong against the pass (pass rush) and the run.

It will be funny as heck, though, if Oliver, an UDFA, ends up being the better NFL player than the overall 5th pick in the draft made by the Raiders.

[Bolt-O]

Honestly, I never understood all the hype about Mack to be taken that high.

Measurables, and a great game against Ohio State. He has been a non-factor vs. San Diego based teams. Some said that he was 'gamed planned' for after that Ohio State game, but now he's playing with the big boys.

[Panama]

Honestly, I never understood all the hype about Mack to be taken that high.

Isn't he supposed to be a project? A high-ceiling guy who won't be so good for the first couple of years but has the potential to be dominant at the position?

[Heatmiser]

No, Mack was not presented as a project. Everything I read and heard was that he was a cannot miss blue chip superstar OLB who could do it all and would do it all from day one. Was supposed to be the one sure thing in this draft.

TG

[Mister Hoarse]

How many 5th overall picks are drafted as projects?

[Boltjolt]

Weren't people stressing when Marion Grice got plucked off of our PS ? :-)

Not me. I didn't like that we drafted him.

[Antonio's Gates]

Oliver

Mack has actually played well for the raiders. One of their few bright spots.

[Fleet]

Isn't he supposed to be a project? A high-ceiling guy who won't be so good for the first couple of years but has the potential to be dominant at the position?

I would say that was Barr. I felt Mack was probably the most NFL ready 34 OLB available in the draft. I never considered him a project. Most college players come in as projects though. I just thought Mack was further along than most.

[blueman]

Not me. I didn't like that we drafted him.

We seem to get a pick - high or low - like that every year, like with most teams I imagine: the spiffy idea of the guy at the NFL level quickly becomes eclipsed by the ho-hum reality.

Glad we kept the right also-ran.

[Formula 21]

Mack is #1 on PFF's rookie of the year list. It's still early though.