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Since TT has decided to bring back Pipkins, my mocks have changed a bit.
1st: The CB class is very good. Even with Kincaid on the board, I see 6 or 7 CB's I think will have a bigger impact (Porter Jr, Gonzalez, Branch, Witherspoon, Banks, Ringo, Phillips). Most pundits like Cam Smith over Clark Phillips... I can't fathom why...
2nd: I've started mocking RB Zach Charbonnet here. With Eke unhappy and Kelley becoming a free agent at season's end, it makes sense to get a guy who could become Kellen Moore's bellcow. Charbonnet's 7.0 ypc and 14 TD's can't be overlooked. Runs hard and gets lots of yards-after-contact.
3rd: LB DeMarvion Overshown could/should take over for K9 as the off-ball LB once K9's contract is up. Good in coverage and can time blitzes. He weighed in at 229 lbs at the combine and has room to pack more muscle on his 6-3 frame. Converted safety.
4th: We need another pass rusher. It's a pretty deep class. Often I draft Isaiah McGuire here.
5th: This is where I get my TE. Josh Whylie is often the guy I get.
6th: This is where I get my IOL. There are many that can play OC/OG. McFadden, Curtis, Stromberg, Forsythe, Gaines...
7th: I know this seems late for WR. But I think we're deeper than most feel we are @WR. There is almost no way we experience the injuries we had here last year. KA, MW, and Palmer are a very good squad. We need speed, depth, and PR/KR ability. Derius Davis and Tre Tucker fit that role without having to spend high-round draft capital. Not sure whether Guyton is brought back... and would like to see if John Hightower has progressed... I liked him coming out of college... he has speed and return abilities.
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Originally posted by Boltnut View PostSince TT has decided to bring back Pipkins, my mocks have changed a bit.
1st: The CB class is very good. Even with Kincaid on the board, I see 6 or 7 CB's I think will have a bigger impact (Porter Jr, Gonzalez, Branch, Witherspoon, Banks, Ringo, Phillips). Most pundits like Cam Smith over Clark Phillips... I can't fathom why...
2nd: I've started mocking RB Zach Charbonnet here. With Eke unhappy and Kelley becoming a free agent at season's end, it makes sense to get a guy who could become Kellen Moore's bellcow. Charbonnet's 7.0 ypc and 14 TD's can't be overlooked. Runs hard and gets lots of yards-after-contact.
3rd: LB DeMarvion Overshown could/should take over for K9 as the off-ball LB once K9's contract is up. Good in coverage and can time blitzes. He weighed in at 229 lbs at the combine and has room to pack more muscle on his 6-3 frame. Converted safety.
4th: We need another pass rusher. It's a pretty deep class. Often I draft Isaiah McGuire here.
5th: This is where I get my TE. Josh Whylie is often the guy I get.
6th: This is where I get my IOL. There are many that can play OC/OG. McFadden, Curtis, Stromberg, Forsythe, Gaines...
7th: I know this seems late for WR. But I think we're deeper than most feel we are @WR. There is almost no way we experience the injuries we had here last year. KA, MW, and Palmer are a very good squad. We need speed, depth, and PR/KR ability. Derius Davis and Tre Tucker fit that role without having to spend high-round draft capital. Not sure whether Guyton is brought back... and would like to see if John Hightower has progressed... I liked him coming out of college... he has speed and return abilities.
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Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
Actually with Guyton not tendered and not sure they will offer him a contract like they did Parham, WR is even a bigger need. We have Doss and Hightower on our depth chart. Just awful. In fact right now i think we draft 2 WRs.
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Originally posted by Boltnut View PostSince TT has decided to bring back Pipkins, my mocks have changed a bit.
1st: The CB class is very good. Even with Kincaid on the board, I see 6 or 7 CB's I think will have a bigger impact (Porter Jr, Gonzalez, Branch, Witherspoon, Banks, Ringo, Phillips). Most pundits like Cam Smith over Clark Phillips... I can't fathom why...
2nd: I've started mocking RB Zach Charbonnet here. With Eke unhappy and Kelley becoming a free agent at season's end, it makes sense to get a guy who could become Kellen Moore's bellcow. Charbonnet's 7.0 ypc and 14 TD's can't be overlooked. Runs hard and gets lots of yards-after-contact.
3rd: LB DeMarvion Overshown could/should take over for K9 as the off-ball LB once K9's contract is up. Good in coverage and can time blitzes. He weighed in at 229 lbs at the combine and has room to pack more muscle on his 6-3 frame. Converted safety.
4th: We need another pass rusher. It's a pretty deep class. Often I draft Isaiah McGuire here.
5th: This is where I get my TE. Josh Whylie is often the guy I get.
6th: This is where I get my IOL. There are many that can play OC/OG. McFadden, Curtis, Stromberg, Forsythe, Gaines...
7th: I know this seems late for WR. But I think we're deeper than most feel we are @WR. There is almost no way we experience the injuries we had here last year. KA, MW, and Palmer are a very good squad. We need speed, depth, and PR/KR ability. Derius Davis and Tre Tucker fit that role without having to spend high-round draft capital. Not sure whether Guyton is brought back... and would like to see if John Hightower has progressed... I liked him coming out of college... he has speed and return abilities.
Detroit will be looking for a RB, there second Rd1 pick is late teens and I doubt they would pass on Bijan if he’s there. They won’t take him with their first pick, i think its top 5. I see zero chance Bijan gets to 21. What I don’t / nobody knows is how high would TT have to jump up to get him.“Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”
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Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
Actually with Guyton not tendered and not sure they will offer him a contract like they did Parham, WR is even a bigger need. We have Doss and Hightower on our depth chart. Just awful. In fact right now i think we draft 2 WRs.
I like the fact they re-signed Parham. They don't have to be desperate @TE during the draft now. Gives then a redzone target.
I don't think they're desperate @WR either. Just need depth, speed, and a returner. Attainable in the later rounds.
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Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post
Charbonet is a strong inside runner, and not slow. Also not fast. I’d really love Bijan and would give up some capital to get him, he’s gonna be special, not just good. Charbonet is a great piece in a 2back platoon to address the power deficit but I am thinking he’s Rd3 vs Rd2. but I don’t know how other teams rank him?
Detroit will be looking for a RB, there second Rd1 pick is late teens and I doubt they would pass on Bijan if he’s there. They won’t take him with their first pick, i think its top 5. I see zero chance Bijan gets to 21. What I don’t / nobody knows is how high would TT have to jump up to get him.
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Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post
Charbonet is a strong inside runner, and not slow. Also not fast. I’d really love Bijan and would give up some capital to get him, he’s gonna be special, not just good. Charbonet is a great piece in a 2back platoon to address the power deficit but I am thinking he’s Rd3 vs Rd2. but I don’t know how other teams rank him?
Detroit will be looking for a RB, there second Rd1 pick is late teens and I doubt they would pass on Bijan if he’s there. They won’t take him with their first pick, i think its top 5. I see zero chance Bijan gets to 21. What I don’t / nobody knows is how high would TT have to jump up to get him.
Charbonnet just looks like one of the BPA in the 2nd round.
No trade-ups, please. We need depth at many positions. The Herbert extension is priority #1 next off-season. To do that, they will need to shed some players' contracts. Draft picks the next 2 drafts will be needed.
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Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
The Lions just signed Montgomery for 24 mil and Swift is still on their roster
No need to spend hours to google every news blurb on NFL when we have you guys. Thank you good sir.“Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”
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Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post
Charbonet is a strong inside runner, and not slow. Also not fast. I’d really love Bijan and would give up some capital to get him, he’s gonna be special, not just good. Charbonet is a great piece in a 2back platoon to address the power deficit but I am thinking he’s Rd3 vs Rd2. but I don’t know how other teams rank him?
Detroit will be looking for a RB, there second Rd1 pick is late teens and I doubt they would pass on Bijan if he’s there. They won’t take him with their first pick, i think its top 5. I see zero chance Bijan gets to 21. What I don’t / nobody knows is how high would TT have to jump up to get him.5/11 Fuaga, 37 Kamari Lassiter, 40 Sinnott, 67 Bralen Trice, 69 Cedric Gray, 105 Jaylen Wright, 110 Braelon Allen, 140 Joe Milton, 181 Khristian Boyd, Tylan Grable, 225 Daijun Edwards, 253 Miyan Williams
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CJ Stroud * don't think he ends up No. 1 overall, and rather lands w/Steichen somehow
Bryce Young * still in Houston
Jalen Carter * way too much risk, even if he lands in our laps
Anthony Richardson * ala Cam Newton, ends up No. 1 overall
Will Levis * a Raider ??
Paris Johnson * good friends w/Bears QB Fields
Bijan * the balm to most all our perceived running woes, and.... think he goes to the Motor City @18
JSN * he had big numbers against CB3s, when opposing Ds had to account for Olave and Garrett Wilson before Njigba.... pass
Quentin Johnston * MW 2.0 ....no need to dupe that, 'specially this early
Lukas Van Ness * taking a guy that didn't start for his college team is too risky round one
Broderick Jones * biggest risk of big three, as think Skoronski and PJ are better/safer gambits
Jordan Addison * don't get all the love for this guy, as way too risky @this juncture
Nolan Smith * too early for an ED3, not to mention that this isn't my idea of an edge player for us
Michael Mayer * big boy is a whole whopping three pounds more than Kincaid.... he's a Clydesdale, no thank you
Brian Breese * actually would have no problem w/this guy as a Charger, but like Verrett, prolly not a wise gambit if I'm the GM
Calijah Kancey * amazing that even tho Aaron Donald had amazing college production he still didn't come off the board 'til 13
Kincaid * this is the guy.... by far the most Herbert compatible guy in the draft, and perhaps a blessing 'bout his back
Zay Flowers * level of competition is huge ? along w/durability.... better off as day two value in the slot
O'Cyrus * this guy makes all the sense in the world, as do think Salyer makes an excellent sixth OL
Jalin Hyatt * 'nother guy who will def bring something to the table, but better off as day two value, as not who you build your team around
Jahmyr * do like the guy, and tempting, and.... the usual RB that falls between our picks and doesn't slot well to us
Darnell Washington * took the Combine cheese on this guy, and.... has a bit too much McKitty to his game
Darnell Wright * serviceable, but glad we have Pips for now, as not where I woulda gone round one
Dawand Jones * might be wrong, and still suspect that Salyer is the better RT than Pips, and so.... not in the market for another one
Drew Sanders * 'nother guy who makes sense as a Charger, but again.... not my first choice
Will McDonald * way overinflated by national punditry
Keion White * will be interested to see how he does.... enticing once upon a time
Hendon Hooker * needless to say would be an odd pick, but want to give him a mention as think he's a round one talent5/11 Fuaga, 37 Kamari Lassiter, 40 Sinnott, 67 Bralen Trice, 69 Cedric Gray, 105 Jaylen Wright, 110 Braelon Allen, 140 Joe Milton, 181 Khristian Boyd, Tylan Grable, 225 Daijun Edwards, 253 Miyan Williams
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