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  • SAY OW 55
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    Originally posted by electricgold View Post
    Man oh man I hope we draft LB Junior Colson, 247lbs 6'3 4.58 40...
    Pro Bowler

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    • Boltjolt
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      Originally posted by QSmokey View Post

      11? Sorry if I missed your trade-scenario post, but what did we get in return for the move from #5 to #11?

      Another question...say we do move down to #11, and let's say the following players are all off the board:

      Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, MHJr, Nabers, Jaylen Daniels, Alt, Fashanu, Odunze, Bowers, and Dallas Turner

      Who would you draft?
      I didn't post a return for trading down as that is irrelevant for I'm talking about. We will get good compensation

      As for who is on the board, no chance those QBs are in the board, except maybe Daniels, MHJ won't be...or maybe he will. Don't care.

      As for the others I'd draft Bowers. We are not going to draft a WR in the first round. Turner isn't my top edge rusher. Id take Latu and think if lean Chop Robinson over him.
      RT would be nice but I'm more for fixing the middle of the OL and get a RT later if possible or snatch one after a cap casualty cut.
      Just think Bowers offers a lot and is a big need at TE and I'd label him a definite weapon.

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      1. Mason Taylor TE LSU
      2. Quinshon Judkins RB Ohio st
      3. Kyle Kennard Edge So. Carolina
      ✓
      4. CJ West DT Indiana
      5. Don'te Thornton WR Tennessee
      6. Zah Frazier CB UTSA
      6. Jarquez Hunter RB Auburn
      6. Jay Higgins LB Iowa
      6. Hunter Wohler S Wisconsin
      7. Carson Vinson OT Alabama

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      • Boltnut
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        Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

        I didn't post a return for trading down as that is irrelevant for I'm talking about. We will get good compensation

        As for who is on the board, no chance those QBs are in the board, except maybe Daniels, MHJ won't be...or maybe he will. Don't care.

        As for the others I'd draft Bowers. We are not going to draft a WR in the first round. Turner isn't my top edge rusher. Id take Latu and think if lean Chop Robinson over him.
        RT would be nice but I'm more for fixing the middle of the OL and get a RT later if possible or snatch one after a cap casualty cut.
        Just think Bowers offers a lot and is a big need at TE and I'd label him a definite weapon.
        What if Bowers isn't there @#11...?
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        • electricgold
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          Originally posted by Boltnut View Post

          What if Bowers isn't there @#11...?
          You then draft either Powers, **Fuaga, *Chop, or T. Arnold! Or trade down again and draft Kitchens, Who would all start day one while at the same time fill a position of need and be much better than anything we currently have playing this position, other than Mack!

          **To replace Pip!
          * To replace Bosa or Mack or both.

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          • Boltnut
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            Originally posted by electricgold View Post

            You then draft either Powers, Fuaga, *Chop, or T. Arnold! Or trade down again and draft Kitchens, Who would all start day one while at the same time fill a position of need!

            * To replace Bosa or Mack or both.
            Powers seems a little high @#11. Fuaga I could get behind. Not the elite pass blocker... but I hear we're gonna run the ball. Chop seems a little high @#11 too. Arnold... gimme his teammate or Quinyan and it's a deal!
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            • gzubeck
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              Originally posted by Boltnut View Post

              What if Bowers isn't there @#11...?
              Who cares...There will be 5 other players of good repute to take at a position of need. Bowers is a good player but not a game changer like some here think. I'd rather have McConkey in the second round versus Bowers at #5. If people thought QJ was over drafted the Bowers thing will dwarf that at #5 pick!
              Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

              "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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              • SAY OW 55
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                Nahhh no way.

                You can’t draft of need in drafts that gets teams in trouble. You take best available. If Patrick Mahomes is on the board you deal with it. If Randy Moss is on the board you deal with it. If Fred Taylor is on the board you deal with it. If Adrian Peterson is on the board you deal with it.

                Detroit took 3 receivers busts analyst were actually telling them don’t take Calvin Johnson cause all thier receivers bust hall of famer.

                take best available. All that need shit will get you in trouble. Need will have you drafting Solomon Thomas over Patrick Mahomes

                Need will have you drafting Robert Gallery over Larry Fitzgerald.

                Need will have you drafting Fabian Washington over Aaron Rodgers.

                And don’t come at me with the you haiting on Alt.

                Nope if you feel or think Alt is the best player on the board draft him. But don’t draft him cause you need a right tackle.

                I don’t necessary think the Chargers need Brock Bowers but I think he’s the best player ranked.

                If Marvin Harrison was in thier lap I’d say draft him. But after Harrison is Bowers and I do Have Bowers ranked ahead of Alt.

                Brock Bowers was the top player in the draft last year. Stop with the Noncense.

                He would’ve been drafted before Sam Laporta Luke Musgrave Dalton Kincaid Qunentin Johnston and Zay Flowers.

                Baltimore would’ve run two tight end sets. So I don’t want to hear it.

                And comparing Brock Bowers to Quentin Johnston is just no comparison. Not one team was taking Quentin Johnston over Brock Bowers.

                Brock Bowers is can’t miss Quentin Johnston was upside. Question mark. Bust potential. Duwayne Bowe. He had drops in college.

                Brock Bowers never had drops problems at Georgia. And I think the national championship game everybody was saying give me Bowers don’t give me Johnston.

                This is the same shit that made the Raiders take Tyre Wilson over Jaylen Carter. You think they’d like that do over????

                People over think this draft shit take the best player available. It’s why we have Justin Herbert because Washington took Chase Young over Justin Herbert.

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                • Boltnut
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                  Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

                  Who cares...There will be 5 other players of good repute to take at a position of need. Bowers is a good player but not a game changer like some here think. I'd rather have McConkey in the second round versus Bowers at #5. If people thought QJ was over drafted the Bowers thing will dwarf that at #5 pick!
                  I agree with the bolded. Not sure I'd take a WR in the 2nd tho. I think they'll be looking for a center or DT or... a number of other good players in the 2nd round. I'm not against WR in the draft. But we'll be committed to the run game this year. WR depth after the 3rd round is an option. BPA @ PON every round.
                  Protect the QB
                  Run the ball
                  Play great defense

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                  • AFboltfan
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                    Originally posted by gzubeck View Post
                    Bowers is a good player but not a game changer like some here think.
                    Wrong...

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                    • gzubeck
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                      Originally posted by SAY OW 55 View Post
                      Nahhh no way.

                      You can’t draft of need in drafts that gets teams in trouble. You take best available. If Patrick Mahomes is on the board you deal with it. If Randy Moss is on the board you deal with it. If Fred Taylor is on the board you deal with it. If Adrian Peterson is on the board you deal with it.

                      Detroit took 3 receivers busts analyst were actually telling them don’t take Calvin Johnson cause all thier receivers bust hall of famer.

                      take best available. All that need shit will get you in trouble. Need will have you drafting Solomon Thomas over Patrick Mahomes

                      Need will have you drafting Robert Gallery over Larry Fitzgerald.

                      Need will have you drafting Fabian Washington over Aaron Rodgers.

                      And don’t come at me with the you haiting on Alt.

                      Nope if you feel or think Alt is the best player on the board draft him. But don’t draft him cause you need a right tackle.

                      I don’t necessary think the Chargers need Brock Bowers but I think he’s the best player ranked.

                      If Marvin Harrison was in thier lap I’d say draft him. But after Harrison is Bowers and I do Have Bowers ranked ahead of Alt.

                      Brock Bowers was the top player in the draft last year. Stop with the Noncense.

                      He would’ve been drafted before Sam Laporta Luke Musgrave Dalton Kincaid Qunentin Johnston and Zay Flowers.

                      Baltimore would’ve run two tight end sets. So I don’t want to hear it.

                      And comparing Brock Bowers to Quentin Johnston is just no comparison. Not one team was taking Quentin Johnston over Brock Bowers.

                      Brock Bowers is can’t miss Quentin Johnston was upside. Question mark. Bust potential. Duwayne Bowe. He had drops in college.

                      Brock Bowers never had drops problems at Georgia. And I think the national championship game everybody was saying give me Bowers don’t give me Johnston.

                      This is the same shit that made the Raiders take Tyre Wilson over Jaylen Carter. You think they’d like that do over????

                      People over think this draft shit take the best player available. It’s why we have Justin Herbert because Washington took Chase Young over Justin Herbert.
                      This post is just silly. I don't think Brock Bowers is Better than the top 3 receivers and it's just over drafting.
                      Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

                      "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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                      • gzubeck
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                        Originally posted by AFboltfan View Post

                        Wrong...
                        Your wrong. Watched a ton of his tape and I'm not impressed. Good luck with that.
                        Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

                        "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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                        • AFboltfan
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                          Pay special attention @ 3:25

                          Kiper says what I've been saying... Both Harbaugh's covet TE's. Bowers makes the most sense for us, even at 5.

                          Bank on it.

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