2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[Formula 21]

Put some better cleats on dude. It’s a drill not a game. Nobody is coming after your knees.

[Formula 21]

Isaiah Adams * slow, not good, hips not bad turning the corner, not an athlete
Joe Alt * coming in thought he was a bit overhyped, former TE, but is he really elite for the position, great length, not a good bender, avg foot speed, not tight in the hips, don't see elite movement skills, slow getting off the line/turning the corner in down block, not lightfooted, slip sliding around/away
Gottleib Ayedze * decent base, feet are alright, can kinda sink his hips and stay low
Karsen Barnhart * solid mirror
Cooper Beebe * really in control & compact, not super electric, but passes movement test, decent feet, nice ankle flexion, has some pop to him, ideal mirror drill, change of direction on point
Tanor Bartolini * knee bend is there, good hand movement, good laterally, nice feet/really good, lightfooted, good reps in everything, flew thru the mirror, can shift his weight
Olu Fashanu * not sure he's special, athletically
Troy Fautanu * versatile, can go all over the line, solid knee bend, solid base, has extra short area burst, easy kick step, lightfooted, good change of direction, good pop in the hands, no question marks, good player, elite mirror drill
Blake Fisher * okay movement, looks a bit raw, but not bad, not explosive, but moving alright, looks like a project, but one that can work, kick step doesn't cover a ton of ground, but in position, needs work but has potential
Zach Frazier * good knee bend, bit upright going back, was battling an injury
Javon Foster * great SB
Taliese Fuaga * good job staying low, good @staying moving & in control, better than eye imagined, am falling more in love, am impressed, can't believe how well he is going for his size, makes it look easy, gets in base efficiently, can't believe how explosive he is, has real juice for his size, not to mention he blew up the SB
X'Zauvea Gadlin * huge and not a disaster moving around
Tyler Guyton * lightfooted, keeps ass low, good knee bend, tight hipped, it's a problem, can't open up @all, might have to be a RT, thought he needed to show more pow @SB
CJ Hanson * keeps feet moving and does good job staying low, pretty quick feet, looks like a center, good reaction time, really good @sinking hips
Christian Haynes * solid knee bend, pretty quick feet, really gets out and goes, has some power in his feet, eye like him, has some explosion
Christian Jones * little stiff but feet are good, some limitations in the knee bend, plus athlete and uses hands well, solid SB
Matthew Jones * good base, feet not bad, covers no ground in kick step
Trente Jones * not a bad athlete, nice feet, OL6 @Michigan
Trevor Keegan * moves well, no issues bending, keeps feet churning, Bside player
Jarrett Kingston * not super athletic
JC Latham * doesn't open up & go, slow play speed, feet way too close together, has some force, hips aren't bad, flexibility, way too choppy and not covering ground, RT only, not super heavy in the feet, passed the mirror.... DND !!
Sataoa Laumea * wild child/all over the place, not controlled, play speed is fine, but not refined
Beaux Limmer * covers ground, good arm movement, feet move well, center drills easy, nice knee bend, good fire w/the hands
Christian Mahoghany * prolly best lineman @East West, didn't cover a ton of ground, stiff/staggered, moving ok, not super duper athletic, wierd technique but gets job done, feet moving well
Amarius Mims * struggled to stay healthy, really good when on the field, sample size is really small.... how do you proceed ?? (cautionary tale.... proceed w/caution.... if @all)
Jacob Monk * wide base, not explosive, bit high, but moves @good pace, not a great kick step, needs better play speed, had best 10 yd time, but didn't look like it moving around
Drake Nugent * decent feet, solid punch, play speed is solid, lacks initial burst
Patrick Paul * serious back bender, not gaining ground, heavy feet, stiff, not exploding outta breaks, way too high, hips not good, back bending is gross, got yelled @for not having enough kick
Jackson Powers Johnson * movement skills far from ideal, slow play speed, don't see explosion, step down athletically from top guys of past, punches well, hand work pretty good
Roger Rosengarten * not super technical, but gets to his spot, faster than quick, not a good kick step, got beat @SB team drills quite a bit
Kingsley Suamataia * athletic monster, good ankles, smooth in drills, athletic backpedal, has explosion you want, acceleration getting to spot is noticeable, fires off ball, perfect kick step, in control on punch, head on a swivel
Nathan Thomas * gets job done, bit high, solid base, not an easy mover, not overly limited either tho
Charles Turner * no major issues, keeps feet moving, overall passable
Sedrick Van Pran * more power than speed, feet do well, resets feet well, in control for most part

Seriously, talent and money wise, Fuaga looks like the ideal Bolt, now and during his second contract..

And JPJ, seriously overrated at 20ish.

[powderblueboy]

I’d love to draft Harrison Jr. But any GM who drafts a QB based on his speed should be fired. 4.48, who cares?

How’s his accuracy on 20 yard out to the left? Or the right? How quick does he get rid of the ball with accuracy? That’s what I care about.

He is very accurate on throws within the hash marks, gets rid of the ball quickly, has nice feet and moves well in the pocket anticipating pressure,
can escape from the pocket and throw well on the run with good vision or he can take it up field.

Deep outs and deep patterns are not his forte. Does he anticipate throwing to openings, or throw receivers open ... I can't say.
I haven't studied him that intensely.

[powderblueboy]

Seriously, talent and money wise, Fuaga looks like the ideal Bolt, now and during his second contract..

And JPJ, seriously overrated at 20ish.

I disagree with the movement skills far from ideal bit ... he is very good laying blocks in the open field and has a quick first step.

One problem I have is the quality of the DTs in the Pac 12: hard to evaluate what he'd do against a disruptive DT.

[Boltjolt]

I’d love to draft Harrison Jr. But any GM who drafts a QB based on his speed should be fired. 4.48, who cares?

How’s his accuracy on 20 yard out to the left? Or the right? How quick does he get rid of the ball with accuracy? That’s what I care about.

McCarthy won't run no 4.48 had he run at the combine and that's why these guys will do it at their prodays.
Its usually a little faster there. Think they still use hand times OR I've heard they cheat 40 line just a tad closer than 40 yards.

[Boltjolt]

Seriously, talent and money wise, Fuaga looks like the ideal Bolt, now and during his second contract..

And JPJ, seriously overrated at 20ish.

I have said JPJ has been getting over hyped. He isn't the best OC we have seen in years. I don't think we will see 3 OCs going round 1. Maybe one...,maybe none.

[SAY OW 55]

According to Louis Riddick if you’re a Young Quarterback and you want a skill player in the draft this is the draft to do it and get it.

he said if I was playing DB today i wouldn’t want to cover these guys. They all run sub 4 45 and all jump Vertical high.

[SAY OW 55]

He said you better tell your GM to get these guys.


Nabers

Oudenzie

Harrison Jr.

Horwitz you listening?

[SAY OW 55]

Put some better cleats on dude. It’s a drill not a game. Nobody is coming after your knees.

He’s a little clumsy footwork fucked up. I’m not an Alt guy. Team Bowers and Team Nabers. But the tackle is going to be elite and the first off the board. I just don’t think he should be the 5th pick in the draft.

[Lone Bolt]

Oline on my board atm.... Olumuyiwa Fashanu, Taliese Fuaga, Graham Barton, Kingsley Suamataia, Trente Jones

am def looking RT round one, and would add Jones if he's still around day three for us....

otherwise am looking OC in FA, as can't count on Barton being there @37....

Still like Olu? Maybe coaching, and Ben Herbert putting some sand in his pants will help with the run game...

Very impressed with Kingsley, myself...I think he sneaks into the first.

What did you think of Bortolini? Been watching him lately...impressed...mid round option, and could always hedge the bet with a vet...while he is understudy at OC in that scenario, he has the experience to backup other positions as well.

And yea...me like Fuaga.

[Lone Bolt]

I have said JPJ has been getting over hyped. He isn't the best OC we have seen in years. I don't think we will see 3 OCs going round 1. Maybe one...,maybe none.

I think some fans here have appeared to overhype him...I do think he is top of the class, and one of the better centers in the past few years, if not necessarily the best...but I think he is scheme suited to powergap, with his one weakness being movement skills...

This looks like a decent Center class thru midrounds...which will take some premium off teams needing to reach for a Center in the first...if he falls to 37? Yea...I think highly enough of his tape to pick him.

[wu-dai clan]

Joe Alt's 3 Cone was identical to Lane Johnson's.

In a measurable that really matters, the 5 Yard Split shows Alt immediately getting up to 14.14 mph. This is tops among Combine OL and shows Alt will be great in pulls and reaches.

It's Amateur Hour around here.

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