2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[DerwinBosa]

I would not relegate a 7mil per guy to swing tackle and spend the #5 pick on a guy that doesn't play RT and doesn't want to play RT..

Don't see where you're getting this.

Alt on preference of playing left or right tackle:

“I played left, so I'd naturally be more natural there, but I don't have a preference. I've been working on both.”

Alt, who was mocked to the Chargers at No. 5 overall in Daniel Jeremiah’s most recent mock draft on NFL.com, would likely play right tackle for Los Angeles after spending his collegiate career on the left side. Chargers Wire asked him if that switch was something that had come up in interviews with teams and if he had begun preparing:

"It definitely has come up. I’ve been preparing for it at the combine. I also played tight end in high school, so I’ve been able to put my hand on both sides of the ball. I did some tackle over this season and then working in the combine training."

https://www.si.com/college/notredame/recruiting/notre-dame-lineman-joe-alt-speaks-to-media-at-2024-nfl-scouting-combine#:~:text=And%20it's%20just%20been%20a,ve%20 been%20working%20on%20both.%E2%80%9D

https://chargerswire.usatoday.com/20...ing-nfl-draft/

[Boltjolt]

This guy is interesting - a Lions' fan but also a Michigan fan who is taking an interest in the Chargers because of Harbaugh. He opines that Michigan was so loaded in 2023, that they had guys who did get a chance to show their full potential and several of them are in this year's draft, and Harbaugh and Hortiz could clean up on with Day 3 picks from Michigan who will turn out to be steals. He opines that the biggest steal of the draft could be Cornelius Johnson, a WR who PFF projects will at the top of the 5th round, right where the Chargers pick with #139. He didn't compile a lot of stats because Michigan ran the ball so much. Johnson's Combine tests were off the charts, and he has 4.45 speed. Another player he mentions is AJ Barner, the self-proclaimed best blocking TE in the draft. PFF ranks Barner at the top of the 6th round, again, right where the Chargers pick at #180. But he doesn't just talk about these two, he talks about several much lesser known Michigan picks who Harbaugh might target on Day 3.

There are some good prospects for sure. Johnson will be a under the radar guy but he only had a couple less receptions than Roman Wilson who led the team. It was Wilson, Johnson and Loveland in that order and they were seperated by only like 3 or 4 receptions from top to bottom. Barner only had like 28 receptions....but he was the blocking TE.

Granted from Michigan id like us to get Jenkins, Sainristil and Colson. Wouldnt mind Johnson if we picking a WR late....like after round 5. Think he might be there in 6.
I guess Corum is a possibilty too but i really like Wright and Benson but wouldnt mind Corum.

[wu-dai clan]

The benefit of bringing in a college coach from an elite team - lots and lots of insight into not only Michigan's players, but all the teams they played over the past few years.

Recruits too !

[Velo]

There are some good prospects for sure. Johnson will be a under the radar guy but he only had a couple less receptions than Roman Wilson who led the team. It was Wilson, Johnson and Loveland in that order and they were seperated by only like 3 or 4 receptions from top to bottom. Barner only had like 28 receptions....but he was the blocking TE.

Granted from Michigan id like us to get Jenkins, Sainristil and Colson. Wouldnt mind Johnson if we picking a WR late....like after round 5. Think he might be there in 6.
I guess Corum is a possibilty too but i really like Wright and Benson but wouldnt mind Corum.

Cool.

[Boltnut]

LOL, no he didnt,....you have to be kidding! Dobbins got hurt so Edwards got to play more. Edwards is no way shape or form out played Dobbins who unfortunately has suffered to big injuries the last two seasons.
Hec Keaton Michell was better than Edwards but Micthell is small and got hurt too.

Keep in mind those that want to sign Edwards...he has 30 receptions in 5 years. Not much or a reciever. Had 12 last season with 198 rushes.

LOL! Dobbins has 1350 rushing yards the last 3 years. Edwards has 1,966 yards rushing. Edwards had as many rushing TD's, last year, than Dobbins had in his total career. THAT is out-producing a guy, my friend.

[Critty]

If you have a dripping leak in your faucet, but your toilet burst and is gushing shit into your house, which do you fix first? Pipkins is the drip. Nothing more, and most of us (other than OT) advocates are not huge giant Pip-fans. Its just not top priority. If Job 1 is protecting Herbert, that is IOL first.

If we are moving on from Joey or Mack, Edge is priority. LB is priority. RB is huge priority. CB priority? Lots of bigger needs, thats all,

Of course, they may just decide to go OL first. If thats their call, based on top talent on the board and decision to not add WR (or TE?) - ok by me. Trust in JH2 (JH1, really)

You could draft Alt. And move Slater inside to LG. And then extend him. Im confident he would play like a pro bowler there. Move Johnson back to RG. Move Salyer to RT.
Sign L.Cushinberry to be the OC. Now you have two 1st Rd picks at both guard spots. And an solid young center in CBerry. The IOL should be much better now.

Then trade Pipkins to Telesco for 2025 5th Rd pick.


if the Chargers stay at #5. I really think J.Alt should be the pick. However if they trade down to 8-11, and J.Alt is gone, then Verse should be the pick. If the top 4 pick are QB, WR, QB, J.Alt. Then Verse would be my pick at #5 if they can't find a trade down.

For my money that #5 pick needs to be OT or EDGE.

Even on a trade down, I still think OT or EDGE should be the pick.

If LAC trade down to # 8 and both Alt and Verse are there, it will be tough decision. But I think it has to be Alt because OL play every snap and Justin Herbert is the star that needs time to shine.

[Boltjolt]

LOL! Dobbins has 1350 rushing yards the last 3 years. Edwards has 1,966 yards rushing. Edwards had as many rushing TD's, last year, than Dobbins had in his total career. THAT is out-producing a guy, my friend.

Due to injuries! Edwards isnt near the RB Dobbins is when healthy. Call it what you want, but if Dobbins isnt injury prone, Edwards rarely sees the field. Dobbins career 5.8 YPC with the same OL, Mitchell 8.4 with the same OL last season. Gus career 4.9 YPC but only 4.1 last year. Dobbins 234 career rushes, 12 TDs due to injuries, Edwards 198 rushes last year, 13 TDs....because the rest of the RBs were all on IR except Justice Hill who had a career high 84 rushes.


Its like saying when Inman out produced Keenan when he was hurt like it meant something.
Nobody is going to be rushing out to sign Edwards to be their starter. I bet he is a late in FA cy signing before TC starts for someone. MAYBE Baltimore brings him back.

[dmac_bolt]

There is no way we are drafting a guard or center fifth overall. And Zion Johnson wasn't nearly as bad as you have made him out to be in his rookie season. He was named to the Pro Football Writers of America NFL All-Rookie Team, which isn't everything but shows that he played well enough to be recognized. With better coaching I definitely see more upside in Zion, Salyer, and even McFadden at guard than I do with Pipkins at right tackle.

I agree. I would never take an OC at 5 and don’t plan to.

Ok, i think all of them can be coached up to play well enough to win, if they just add a TE that can block

[Boltnut]

I think everyone has mentioned this. I'm not understanding how if one states he wants us to take Alt IF we stay at the fifth overall pick leads to some of these downright weird negative reactions by some.

They want who they want. No public statements from the HC can change their focus. Research into current coach's philosophy can not divert. All other prospects will be microscopically analyzed and discredited...

I am open minded about all prospects. If the coaches and GM's recent statements end up complete lies during liar's month... and all WR's are systemically cut/traded within the next few days... then I can read tea leaves; and WR's will automatically become the obvious choice. Until then... there are many ways this can go. I will be happy with Harbaugh/Hortiz's choice... even if it is a WR/TE.

[sonorajim]

There is no way we are drafting a guard or center fifth overall. And Zion Johnson wasn't nearly as bad as you have made him out to be in his rookie season. He was named to the Pro Football Writers of America NFL All-Rookie Team, which isn't everything but shows that he played well enough to be recognized. With better coaching I definitely see more upside in Zion, Salyer, and even McFadden at guard than I do with Pipkins at right tackle.

I strongly doubt OL at 5. I think C in 2 or 3. If we pick at 5 or trade down a few spots, still WR or Bowers.
But that's me. I will totally respect JH2's choices. Truthfully, I like a lot of early picks and then there are Mich guys in mid and late rds.

[Cdn Bolt]

Patrick Queen is a BAL UFA. We released ILB Eric Kendriks. Unless he is too pricey a move to bring him here seems to make sense w all the BAL connections.

[Boltnut]

Due to injuries! Edwards isnt near the RB Dobbins is when healthy. Call it what you want, but if Dobbins isnt injury prone, Edwards rarely sees the field. Dobbins career 5.8 YPC with the same OL, Mitchell 8.4 with the same OL last season. Gus career 4.9 YPC but only 4.1 last year. Dobbins 234 career rushes, 12 TDs due to injuries, Edwards 198 rushes last year, 13 TDs....because the rest of the RBs were all on IR except Justice Hill who had a career high 84 rushes.


Its like saying when Inman out produced Keenan when he was hurt like it meant something.
Nobody is going to be rushing out to sign Edwards to be their starter. I bet he is a late in FA cy signing before TC starts for someone. MAYBE Baltimore brings him back.

I never said Edwards was better than Dobbins... only that he was more productive. My original point being, I don't think we need a "star" RB like JamRock suggested.