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  • Topcat
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    • Jan 2019
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    Originally posted by Critty View Post

    Doesn't matter if it's said a million times.
    Doesn't make the point less valid.

    I said it straight already. There has been no whisper or mumble. It's been loud and clear. I will write it again since you seem to struggle with reading comprehension. He is overrated and likely to go on IR every year based on how he plays football. That is not something I would say about every prospect.

    ​​It's fine we disagree. If you still don't understand. Read this... Bowers is not a top 20 prospect for me because I think he won't be able to duplicate what happen at Georgia at NFL level. I don't think the NFL teams will feature him like Bulldogs did.

    The entire league thought Isiah Simmons would be great. He has yet to show any impact at NFL level. I thought he would be a starter with pro bowl level play. So far that assessment failed. There are no sure things. If I was to say who would be close to a sure thing. I would bet on MHJ and Joe Alt. Not Bowers.
    Looks like Bowers was injury free his first two years. He missed a few games last season with that ankle injury, but still played 10 games.

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    22 - TE Mason Taylor
    55 - RB Quinshon Judkins
    86 - DL Josiah Stewart
    125 - G Dylan Fairchild
    158 - C Jake Majors
    181 - WR Donte Thornton

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    • blueman
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      Sheesh, it’s just an opinion.

      I’m much more interested in that 3rd/4th round RT some think can easily be as good as Pip right out of the gate (and hopefully has a higher ceiling…again, low bar for that lol if after five years and who knows how many hours of top tier coaching - not from the Chargers obviously - a starter can be replaced that easily).

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      • Xenos
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        • Feb 2019
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        We’re now back on the WR is the pick at #5 choice 😂

        Who is the closest to Julio Jones as a prospect?




        But as Harbaugh told the media at South Alabama, there was another reason he wore the (tucked-in) Jones jersey.

        "I've always had a ton of respect for Julio Jones," Harbaugh said in this video on Scout.com. "When I was with the San Francisco 49ers, we were hoping to draft Julio. Always have had tremendous respect for him, competed against him. ... I'm just a big fan of a lot of pe0ple. And I'm a jersey guy. I like jerseys."

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        • Critty
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          Originally posted by Topcat View Post

          Looks like Bowers was injury free his first two years. He missed a few games last season with that ankle injury, but still played 10 games.
          He is a tough kid. He is a good football player. But I'm still concerned.
          Bowers (shoulder) should be fine to play in the championship game
          Bowers has reportedly been dealing with this injury all season so he should be his usual self in the championship game.
          Then...
          Bowers was out for all the spring practice after undergoing shoulder surgery in February, but he is ready to return to the field.

          ​​​Bowers sustained a high ankle sprain, which will require surgery last season.

          They have great doctors to repair him. He has insurance.

          2 of 3 years end in surgery. Hope that isn't a trend for him.

          I think someone or somewhere it was mentioned how the medicals are so important to understand what your drafting. And I agree.

          How dare I have him outside top 20 prospects, I suck.
          Who has it better than us?

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          • Charge!
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            Originally posted by Ghost of Quacksaw View Post

            For the record, I am *not* anti-Bowers. In fact, I'd be very happy with the selection of Bowers following a trade down of 4 -5 spots.

            His lack of blocking prowess has me raising an eyebrow, especially given the "We're going to out-physical you!" mentality that Jim Harbaugh brings in.

            For me? That's it. No other concerns.

            I *will* say this, though... Bowers doesn't have the weight room physique that so many NFL players do. So on a subliminal level, I think it's easy to find him less intimidating. What surprises me about Bowers' lack of chiseled-ness is that-- when I covered the Chargers-- there were maybe four or five guys on the entire roster who didn't have 'cut' physiques, and that was all. A guy who isn't especially muscular can *appear* soft, even if he's not.
            according to PPF Bowers ranks very highly in blocking skills.... which is really rare for a freaky fast and acrobatic receiving threat....

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            • blueman
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              Oh you do not.

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              • Topcat
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                Originally posted by Critty View Post

                He is a tough kid. He is a good football player. But I'm still concerned.
                Bowers (shoulder) should be fine to play in the championship game
                Bowers has reportedly been dealing with this injury all season so he should be his usual self in the championship game.
                Then...
                Bowers was out for all the spring practice after undergoing shoulder surgery in February, but he is ready to return to the field.

                ​​Bowers sustained a high ankle sprain, which will require surgery last season.

                They have great doctors to repair him. He has insurance.

                2 of 3 years end in surgery. Hope that isn't a trend for him.

                I think someone or somewhere it was mentioned how the medicals are so important to understand what your drafting. And I agree.

                How dare I have him outside top 20 prospects, I suck.
                Bottom line is Bowers only missed a few games...but...It IS important to fully evaluate these players...so your comments are appreciated...who would guess that Bosa and Mike Will would get injured as much as they did...
                22 - TE Mason Taylor
                55 - RB Quinshon Judkins
                86 - DL Josiah Stewart
                125 - G Dylan Fairchild
                158 - C Jake Majors
                181 - WR Donte Thornton

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                • Critty
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                  Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                  Bottom line is Bowers only missed a few games...but...It IS important to fully evaluate these players...so your comments are appreciated...who would guess that Bosa and Mike Will would get injured as much as they did...
                  You cannot be serious with that last comment. I posted to trade them both last off season because I didn't think they would be available to play all 17 games. Didn't like the ROI projection for them.
                  Who has it better than us?

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                  • powderblueboy
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                    Looking into where Brian thomas Jr. might be drafted, a lot of teams before pick #23 do not need a receiver.

                    One draftnik mentioned the Colts (#15), but Pittman & Downs are a decent combo;
                    another mentioned the Saints (#14) , but they have Olave and a ton of holes.

                    Picks #14/15 seem a bit early for BTJr anyhow.

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                    • powderblueboy
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                      Originally posted by Critty View Post

                      You cannot be serious with that last comment. I posted to trade them both last off season because I didn't think they would be available to play all 17 games. Didn't like the ROI projection for them.
                      Critty!

                      Have you mentioned that Bowers rhymes with flowers?

                      That should put an end to this debate.

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                      • DerwinBosa
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                        • Feb 2022
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                        If we go Odunze or Bowers at #5 instead of Alt, that just tells me Harbaugh and Hortiz think Odunze or Bowers is capable of being a Hall of Fame player, or Alt will be a bust. Either way, I will be excited about the decision.

                        But please...I don't see how anyone could possibly believe that Trey Pipkins is good enough to be our long-term starting right tackle. Deflect all you want by saying this or that website stated Zion and Salyer were worse than Pipkins last season. Zion and Salyer are going into the third season together. Pipkins is going into his sixth season. It's more likely than not we've seen the best of him, which isn't good enough.
                        Last edited by DerwinBosa; 04-12-2024, 08:35 PM.

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                        • 21&500
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                          Representing our bolts by well tonight at Social D and Bad Religion at north island credit union in CV
                          HAMMER TIME
                          (can't touch him)

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