2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[Boltnut]

For sure WR is a need but you don't take WR to fill a need if the talent doesn't match the draft position. That said, it seems by the consensus of national media draft punditry, the three WRs are better football players than any OL in the draft - picking 5. So in that case, Need + BPA = Perfect Match. If Joe Alt were considered Joe Thomas and the WRs more in the 8-12 range, the pick would be OT.

For the Chargers roster - its pretty easy
trade down or take the top 2 or 3 talent on your draft board at 5

It took several months of waxing poetically for Nabers to over-take Joe Alt @#5. Now the the silky-tongued experts have Odunze over him, too...? BTW... I was Odunze's biggest fan (nearly 2 years ago... before he decided to go back to college).

But you're right... too easy to trade-back to #11 + #23.

[Charge!]

Also keep in mind that in 2023, Bowers didn't have Monken, who is basically a TE guru, and missed 2 games.
So Bowers' development likely took a hit.
the only other TE Guru type is Greg Roman.
Bowers here with G-Ro learning under Hayden Hurst in a TE friendly scheme is a perfect match.
No he's no Gates, I admit, but he more than makes up for that acceleration with versatility and advanced route running for a college guy.
He finds "soft spots" and is a reliable target. Commands attention because of his YAC ability.
An automatic decoy on every play.

all true.... and Bowers would instantly be the chargers best pass catcher......and biggest matchup nightmare..... and he is very very fast..... he pulled away from LBers and secondary people on a consistant basis..... like Kelsey does against chargers.... but bowers may even be faster....

Bowers and MHJ are the 2 safest, cant miss offensive playmakers in this draft and generational talents that smart teams do not pass on.....

[DerwinBosa]

It took several months of waxing poetically for Nabers to over-take Joe Alt @#5. Now the the silky-tongued experts have Odunze over him, too...? BTW... I was Odunze's biggest fan (nearly 2 years ago... before he decided to go back to college).

But you're right... too easy to trade-back to #11 + #23.

A very common argument for not taking Joe Alt fifth overall: he's not Jonathan Ogden or Joe Thomas. As if Malik Nabers and Rome Odunze are Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson. Lol.

Eleven more days.

[powderblueboy]

A very common argument for not taking Joe Alt fifth overall: he's not Jonathan Ogden or Joe Thomas. As if Malik Nabers and Rome Odunze are Randy Moss and Calvin Johnson. Lol.

Eleven more days.

Who is arguing that? I'm hearing only that the guy isn't a mauler in the running game, and that there is concern about switching sides, handling NFL power bull rushes and redirecting his tall frame.
In response I'm hearing that the guy is technically sound in blocking assignments and knows how to get into defenders paths.

Based on this, I'm predicting that the Chargers will finesse the shit out of the Chiefs the first 50 minutes, and then step on the accelerator.

[Jack Burton]

It took several months of waxing poetically for Nabers to over-take Joe Alt @#5. Now the the silky-tongued experts have Odunze over him, too...? BTW... I was Odunze's biggest fan (nearly 2 years ago... before he decided to go back to college).

But you're right... too easy to trade-back to #11 + #23.

Honestly, Ive always liked Odunze over Nabers myself. But yeah, it’s hard to say these guys are a better pro than Alt. He’s pretty much as slam dunk as it gets in this draft. I still think trading down is the best option. And that’s just because of this draft specifically. It’s just so freaking deep and this team needs so much…

[DerwinBosa]

Who is arguing that? I'm hearing only that the guy isn't a mauler in the running game, and that there is concern about switching sides, handling NFL power bull rushes and redirecting his tall frame.
In response I'm hearing that the guy is technically sound in blocking assignments and knows how to get into defenders paths.

Based on this, I'm predicting that the Chargers will finesse the shit out of the Chiefs the first 50 minutes, and then step on the accelerator.

Many people have made that argument. The post Boltnut responded to mentioned how Alt is not Joe Thomas.

Speaking of Jonathan Ogden, Alt is the same height, and Ogden played guard during his rookie year. Here were some reports on Ogden prior to the 1996 NFL Draft, in which he went fourth overall, and was one of three Hall of Famers drafted in that first round (the other two were Marvin Harrison and Ray Lewis):

“Ogden isn’t a real tough guy,” said Charley Armey, the New England Patriots’ director of college scouting. “Just a real natural guy. (Willie) Anderson probably is tougher than Ogden but Ogden just has so much more talent. I’d take Ogden over Boselli. I’d take the athlete. They’re close enough in toughness that Ogden will always be the best. Boselli has some limitations. I don’t think Ogden has those limitations.”

“He’s sure got the physical tools,” said Jerry Reichow, the Minnesota Vikings’ assistant general manager. “But he don’t bust his ass like he should. He’s got all the physical tools but I wouldn’t even think of it (taking Ogden over Boselli). Ogden’s a better athlete, but he doesn’t have the technique and he doesn’t have near the effort. Ogden is one of those gifted guys that hasn’t worked at it, and he’s a track guy. He spends a lot of the time farting around throwing the shot put.”

The knock on Ogden was his easygoing temperament. Some scouts wanted to see him finish blocks, play angry more often and annihilate the opposition. Newsome, Billick and Ferentz all insist it was a false stereotype of Ogden made by those who weren’t able to witness his competitiveness within the building.

Coming out of UCLA, Ogden didn't appear to be a mauler, either. If he were in this draft maybe you'd nickname him Beanpole while others would say he's too finesse.

https://theathletic.com/2200837/2020/11/20/ravens-jonathan-ogden-draft/

[charger1_sj]

It took several months of waxing poetically for Nabers to over-take Joe Alt @#5. Now the the silky-tongued experts have Odunze over him, too...? BTW... I was Odunze's biggest fan (nearly 2 years ago... before he decided to go back to college).

But you're right... too easy to trade-back to #11 + #23.

Not sure what sites you were looking at. Nabers has pretty much always been rated higher than Alt. In fact several sites didn't even have Alt as the #1 OT. However Alt is consistently in the top 10, I'll give you that.

Which sites and gurus have Odunze over Nabers? Haven't seen or heard any. The buzz is and has always been that Nabers would be WR1 if
MH2 wasn't there.

On the other hand Bowers has slipped down a bit. Some suggest that if NYJ don't take him @10 he'll slip all the way down to 15 to Indy.

This being all talk and conjecture. We have no idea what NFL teams big boards look like, nobody does and at this point many NFL teams are
still trying to figure it out.

[Leslie Grossman]

This really him???

https://x.com/4vertz_/status/1779388488263291258?s=46&t=swNzPB8ezGwyn2PUWzFk2w

If so🤮🤮
He’s gonna slide further than Laremy Tunsil

[21&500]

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[gzubeck]

This really him???

https://x.com/4vertz_/status/1779388488263291258?s=46&t=swNzPB8ezGwyn2PUWzFk2w

If so🤮🤮
He’s gonna slide further than Laremy Tunsil

Trade out of #5 and draft him at #11...sounds good to me...LOL!

[Xenos]

Honestly, Ive always liked Odunze over Nabers myself. But yeah, it’s hard to say these guys are a better pro than Alt. He’s pretty much as slam dunk as it gets in this draft. I still think trading down is the best option. And that’s just because of this draft specifically. It’s just so freaking deep and this team needs so much…

I think Alt is BPA if you want a LT. I just prefer trading down and getting an actual RT like Fuega over having to hope that someone that has never played RT before make the transition over smoothly. Especially with the #5 pick.

[wu-dai clan]

Yo yo yo.
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