And With The 5th Pick Of The NFL Draft Chargers Select....Discussion

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  • CanadianBoltFan
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    • Jul 2022
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    Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

    In a year the draft is oozing Wide receivers I think it's up to KA to take a hit as well. Restructure Mack and let the other three walk. I see so many other teams do better with lesser talent.
    I am totally open.

    I scratch my head when i see my fellow Charger fans here advocating for keeping all 4 players and pushing more money into the future. Isn't that the definition of insanity? We have the most top heavy and over paid 4 players in the NFL that take up a ridiculous 58% of our salary cap. With these 4 players we have never won ANYTHING and last i looked this is a 5-12 team. Two of these 4 players are rarely on the field and healthy.

    Personally I don't see any realistic or positive scenario where all 4 of these players are back in 2024, and frankly I don't want to. Look I like Mike Williams but that is an obvious cut to save 20 million. No one will trade for him.

    People want culture change and a winning team, that is going to mean some changes. Whether i personally like some of these players or not, I am more sick of Chargering and want change, whatever that has to look like. Beyond Herbert, Slater, Tuli, Dicker...sure restructure Keenan as the veteran....i don't care who they move out

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    • Fouts2herbert
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      Hortiz is not going to keep all four high priced guys and keep rolling money forward, me, I'm a huge Mack fan and it's tragic he's not younger because in the short time he's been here, he's been everything I hoped Bosa would be but never became...
      "The author assumes no responsibility or liability for any errors or omissions in the content of this post. The information contained in this post is provided on an "as is" basis with no guarantees of completeness, accuracy, usefulness or timeliness..."​​

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      • 21&500
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        [QUOTE=Boltjolt;n1646369]All they can say i no...or they can say, well lets swap places in the 4th. If they say no, then i say ok. Lets do it.

        I dont even know who mentioned Bijan. It is a rumor of a fan suggestion?[/QUOTE]

        Even better, a "podcaster"
        haha
        HAMMER TIME
        (can't touch him)

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        • powderblueboy
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          Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

          Save Money?!?!? Spend it elsewhere....
          you are not saving money towards the roster by cutting bosa this year.

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          • gzubeck
            Ines Sainz = Jet Bait!
            • Jan 2019
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            [QUOTE=21&500;n1646669]
            Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
            All they can say i no...or they can say, well lets swap places in the 4th. If they say no, then i say ok. Lets do it.

            I dont even know who mentioned Bijan. It is a rumor of a fan suggestion?[/QUOTE]

            Even better, a "podcaster"
            haha
            Are you saying I started this shit? LOL!

            Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

            "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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            • gzubeck
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              Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post

              you are not saving money towards the roster by cutting bosa this year.
              At least $14 mil.
              Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

              "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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              • dmac_bolt
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                • May 2019
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                Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

                well, taken out of context like that, that could make me sound like a total POS, like I was saying something inappropriate, which I wasn't...my point was that not everyone is born with the same types of muscles, even among athletes there are still some people that stand out as having stronger bones and higher concentrations of quick twitch type muscles that produce more power and contract at much higher speeds...I'm no scientist but it has to do with "different distributions of myosin heavy chain (MHC) isoforms in muscles" sometimes referred to as higher muscle density even though the muscle itself can be the same size the more "dense" muscles might have more and shorter individual cells building up each individual strand rather than a lower number of longer cells that take longer to contract because they are longer...
                I didnt take it out of context and didn’t think you are a POS at all. I thought it was an excellent analogy - i understood exactly what you meant - plus its a damn fine catch phrase. This one’s gonna put you on the podium - prepare your acceptance speech, you earned it!
                “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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                • dmac_bolt
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                  Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

                  One of the charger podcast guys said that Hortiz hasn't had a top 5 pick in Baltimore in the last two decades, he's accustomed to getting great players in the 20-28 range every year, so yeah, it makes sense to let him work the draft to get the most 'value' out of that #5 pick, I'd rather have a guy like Hortiz have 2-3 at bats than just the one with the #5, that's TT type shit, this guy will get more out of that pick, I know he will...
                  Hortiz wasn’t making picks in BAL - why do I keep reading about Hortiz did this / did that? DeCosta was GM, he was Director of Player Personnel there.
                  “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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                  • dmac_bolt
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                    Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

                    Me...When I was looking at potential trade partners and Atlanta came up I mentioned it would be nice to get Bijan in a trade deal because we all like him last year at pick #21.
                    I’ve heard that Blank is gonna want to go hard for Cousins - they may not be trading up for a QB. … tbd …
                    “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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                    • Topcat
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                      Originally posted by richpjr View Post
                      I saw an interesting (and likely very unrealistic, but what the hell) trade proposal: if one of the QBs the Falcons really want is on the board when our pick comes up, would you swap our pick for their pick plus Bijan?
                      I don't think the Falcons will trade Bijan, even needing a QB...still has 3 years left on his deal...

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                      22 - TE Mason Taylor
                      55 - RB Quinshon Judkins
                      86 - DL Josiah Stewart
                      125 - G Dylan Fairchild
                      158 - C Jake Majors
                      181 - WR Donte Thornton

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                      • Topcat
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                        Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                        Hortiz wasn’t making picks in BAL - why do I keep reading about Hortiz did this / did that? DeCosta was GM, he was Director of Player Personnel there.
                        True, though Hortiz was surely in the war room on draft day, and no doubt gained a lot of insight on trading up and down...
                        22 - TE Mason Taylor
                        55 - RB Quinshon Judkins
                        86 - DL Josiah Stewart
                        125 - G Dylan Fairchild
                        158 - C Jake Majors
                        181 - WR Donte Thornton

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                        • powderblueboy
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                          Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

                          At least $14 mil.
                          14 million in cap savings, but then there is a dead cap space hit, which is more.

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