2024 Official Super Duper Mock Draft Thread - Opinions On Mocks | Pundit Mocks

[Jrock1970]

I would rather have Van Noy at his 9m/2 plus incentives over Bosa even at 15m. Depending on how the season goes, Bosa may start the season on the Chargers roster, he might not finish it on the Chargers roster

Not really a Van Noy fan but i agree

[Jrock1970]

If Bosa is healthy and effective, they'll ride him out so long as we're winning and say gb for a comp pic rather than trading him

[dmac_bolt]

Sure, but why wouldn’t you want him on a long term deal? Hypothetically, Hortiz would have already talked to his agent prior to this trade and made sure they were all on the same page in terms of the parameters so that this trade even happens.

Surtain is 23 and already considered the best CB in the NFL.
Ah, the price one pays to get a QB…

Sauce is the best CB in the NFL

[Boltjolt]

Not doubting Surtain's ability...it's just that Trader Joe JUST barely engineered us out of Cap Hell, and some people want to hop right back into awarding these monster deals...shouldn't we give ourselves a year or so at least to breathe a little before taking on more bank bucks deals?

This year Surtain is a 6.6 cap hit. We can get that back by trading Pip after June . Or do nothing and if we trade down we save on cap hits with lower draft slottings.
But I'm with Jack. I don't want to do a div rival trade for a QB unless they pay up more than usual.

[Boltjolt]

I would rather have Van Noy at his 9m/2 plus incentives over Bosa even at 15m. Depending on how the season goes, Bosa may start the season on the Chargers roster, he might not finish it on the Chargers roster

KVN signed last year for 1.8 mil. Wheres the 9 m for 2 years coming from?

[Boltjolt]

Bowers had 7 more receptions, and 38 more yards receiving than Sinnott, same amount of TDs, Sinnott averaged a yard more per catch, Ben was two tenths slower in the forty, he is an inch taller, seven lbs heavier than Bowers, according to DraftBuzz, Sinnott is the better deep threat and the better blocker, Bowers w/better hands and better in short/intermediate routes, BB has a QB rating when targeted 15 points higher than Ben, and both their player compares are Michael Mayer/Trey McBride, both are said to be able to line up inline and as a FB, Bowers is below avg in every measurable save one, his forty time, Sinnott is above avg in the shuttle, ten yard split and the 40, he has elite metrics in the vertical, 3 cone and broad jump, Sinnott is quicker than fast, and more agile than Bowers, who is more a straight line speed pass catcher, not dissimilar to Luke Musgrave last go 'round, who had good straight line speed, but less so when it comes to lateral agility, both have run after catch abilities.

he might not be quite a George Kittle/Kyle Pitts, but most would agree Bowers is gonna be pretty good.... top five.... nah.... top ten.... prolly.... drop off the edge of a cliff difference between him and Sinnott.... better check your numbers, as.... not so very likely.... (it's closer than you think).

Not close imv.

Bowers played 2 less games last season for one thing.

Or you can look at it as Bowers has 96 more receptions, 1300 yards and 16 more TDs in the same amount of seasons. Bowers also has 19 rushes for 193 yards and 5 TDs. Was a RB in high school.
Sinnott had 3 for 12 and 1 TD.
Zero rushes his last two seasons.

Those are the stats of it. That isn't what I'm only going by. If you watched them both play I don't see how you can say this. Sinnott is in no way the same weapon Bowers is.

You can see a huge difference when you see them play.
I assume you saw them play but to say Bowers only has straight line speed and isn't as agile? Hmmm....wow.
Maybe you don't watch as much college ball as I thought.

And you are really splitting hairs there using DraftBuzz saying that about their blocking and deep threat lol. The bottom line is this..they have Bowers top 10. ...Sinnott round 4, and that's the site you are using here.

Again LaPorta is the same height, 2 lbs heavier and ran a 4.59 for those worried about size. ...and LaPorta don't have Ben Herbert on his side.

So ill ask....do you think Sinnott is close to Kincaid?

I don't either.....and as i said before, Bowers would of been TE 1 off the board last draft as well. Id have taken Bowers over Kincaid and I'm not throwing shade at Kincaid, ....I wanted him on our team.
Sinnott imo is a decent pick at TE for us and I wouldn't mind but round 4 for me. At 37,....no way as there are far better value and better players there for us. He is a typical TE type. Not a multi weapon.

This TE class just isn't that great and if JH2 knows they want a WR or OT round one, it may be why they signed 2 vet TEs and then get a rookie later they can develope.

[Bolt4Knob]

If Bosa is healthy and effective, they'll ride him out so long as we're winning and say gb for a comp pic rather than trading him

Comp pick would only be an option for Bosa is if he plays out 2025 and he is on the book for $25.6m in 2025. And at that point he will be a 10 year player - so only a 5th and that wouldn't be until 2027

If you want value for Bosa in terms of a trade - it would be this fall. And if the Chargers are 3-6 at the deadline, or worse -- both Bosa and Mack should be on the table

[Bolt4Knob]

KVN signed last year for 1.8 mil. Wheres the 9 m for 2 years coming from?

His new deal with the Ravens - up to $9m with incentives

[Lone Bolt]

Bowers had 7 more receptions, and 38 more yards receiving than Sinnott, same amount of TDs, Sinnott averaged a yard more per catch, Ben was two tenths slower in the forty, he is an inch taller, seven lbs heavier than Bowers, according to DraftBuzz, Sinnott is the better deep threat and the better blocker, Bowers w/better hands and better in short/intermediate routes, BB has a QB rating when targeted 15 points higher than Ben, and both their player compares are Michael Mayer/Trey McBride, both are said to be able to line up inline and as a FB, Bowers is below avg in every measurable save one, his forty time, Sinnott is above avg in the shuttle, ten yard split and the 40, he has elite metrics in the vertical, 3 cone and broad jump, Sinnott is quicker than fast, and more agile than Bowers, who is more a straight line speed pass catcher, not dissimilar to Luke Musgrave last go 'round, who had good straight line speed, but less so when it comes to lateral agility, both have run after catch abilities.

he might not be quite a George Kittle/Kyle Pitts, but most would agree Bowers is gonna be pretty good.... top five.... nah.... top ten.... prolly.... drop off the edge of a cliff difference between him and Sinnott.... better check your numbers, as.... not so very likely.... (it's closer than you think).

Nice work, regardless of my or other opinions...always good to have everything on the table...Ben is a damn good player, and not to be overlooked.

[CanadianBoltFan]

Not close imv.

Bowers played 2 less games last season for one thing.

Or you can look at it as Bowers has 96 more receptions, 1300 yards and 16 more TDs in the same amount of seasons. Bowers also has 19 rushes for 193 yards and 5 TDs. Was a RB in high school.
Sinnott had 3 for 12 and 1 TD.
Zero rushes his last two seasons.

Those are the stats of it. That isn't what I'm only going by. If you watched them both play I don't see how you can say this. Sinnott is in no way the same weapon Bowers is but. You can see a huge difference when you see them play.
I assume you saw them play but to say Bowers only has straight line speed and isn't as agile? Hmmm....wow.
Maybe you don't watch as much college ball as I thought.

Again LaPorta is the same height, 2 lbs heavier and ran a 4.59 for those worried about size. ...and LaPorta don't have Ben Herbert on his side.

So ill ask....do you think Sinnott is close to Kincaid?

I don't either.....and as i said before, Bowers would of been TE 1 off the board last draft as well. Id have taken Bowers over Kincaid and I'm not throwing shade at Kincaid, ....I wanted him on our team.
Sinnott imo is a decent pick at TE for us and I wouldn't mind but round 4 for me. At 37,....no way as there are far better value and better players there for us.

This TE class just isn't that great and if JH2 knows they want a WR or OT round one, it may be why they signed 2 vet TEs and then get a rookie later they can develope.

Wow , weird to see Sinnott a projected 4th rounder, compared to Bowers who is legitimately considered the best TE in college football history. We dont know how it works out in the NFL but Bowers is the best in college. No other TE in college history has ever won the Mackey twice...and more impressively he walked right into the Georgia line up and dominated the SEC ...as a freshman. Sinnott wont even be the 2nd TE drafted

[Boltjolt]

His new deal with the Ravens - up to $9m with incentives

They resigned him today? Didn't see that,...good for him. He played well last season..

[Bolt4Knob]

This year Surtain is a 6.6 cap hit. We can get that back by trading Pip after June . Or do nothing and if we trade down we save on cap hits with lower draft slottings.
But I'm with Jack. I don't want to do a div rival trade for a QB unless they pay up more than usual.

I agree about the overpay for a division rival -100%. And the Chargers can take the cap hit for Surtain even with keeping Bosa - but if somebody wants Pipkins (Telesco - party on!)