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  • eaterfan
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    Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

    NE roster is bad. On defense it’s average. But on offense it’s just bad.
    Caserio spent 2 years fixing HOU before Stroud.
    And he did it the 1st year without a 1st or 2nd round pick. And he had the Debacle with Watson.
    Funny, Caserio came from NE. And he left cause Bill thought he was trying to take to much control.
    It was obviously a great situation. I'm sure you bet the house on them hitting the over on the 6.5 then! It was just stealing money.

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    • Jrock1970
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      Originally posted by SuperChargedRodney37 View Post

      As far as a trade up, they are out and that's if they were ever in.
      Rumor has it they were chasing Zach Wilson (For some odd reason) for weeks. So, if that's true they were probably using the trade up idea to force the Jets to hurry up and make a decision to pull the Wilson trade.

      Wilson
      Stidham
      DiNucci

      That room screams veteran adult in the room needed. I know Peyton is an arrogant putz and I'm sure he believes he can "fix" Wilson.
      Wilson does have more talent and higher cieling than the other Qb's on that roster. That being said, if cost isn't too prohibitive....I think they try and trade up and get one. Payton prob thinks Wilson is better fall-back option than Stidham or Dinucci in case they can't get one or they do and rookie struggles....possibly🤷‍♂️

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      • richpjr
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        • Jrock1970
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          It's funny.....they call Payton a QB whisperer......I'm sure Brees couldn't have won a ring without him !!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and all he did was whisper sweet nothing-at-alls in R. Wilsons ear🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 friggin please

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          • charger1_sj
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            Originally posted by eaterfan View Post

            Stroud? Houston's situation looks a lot better after the season. The same could be true of New England.



            Football reference had their over under at 6.5 wins, tied for second worst. Their Superbowl odds were +20,000, tied for the worst.

            That's just one example, but hardly anyone thought Houston was a good situation before the season started last year. Predictions can be wrong. Prognosticators may miss things. But that can be true of New England, too.

            Let me know if you can find a site that had preseason odds of Houston not having a top 10 pick or finishing above .500 from before the start of the season.
            Houston had a great coaching staff in HC Ryans, former DC for the 49ers and Slowik one of the better OCs in the NFL. They also had good weapons in
            WR Collins, TE Schutz. Who are NE's HC and OC? Who are their WRs, TE, RBs?

            NE has a good defense, nothing on offense. Their best chance at not finishing dead last is to best the NY Jets. Unless Rodges shit the bed the
            chances of that are slim and none. Slim is on his way out of town.

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            • eaterfan
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              Originally posted by charger1_sj View Post

              Houston had a great coaching staff in HC Ryans, former DC for the 49ers and Slowik one of the better OCs in the NFL. They also had good weapons in
              WR Collins, TE Schutz. Who are NE's HC and OC? Who are their WRs, TE, RBs?

              NE has a good defense, nothing on offense. Their best chance at not finishing dead last is to best the NY Jets. Unless Rodges shit the bed the
              chances of that are slim and none. Slim is on his way out of town.
              If Houston's offense was so good, why was their over under at 6.5? Was Vegas trying to give money away? Why were their odds so high to finish with a top 5 pick?

              Looking back, those things were obvious. But they weren't obvious at the time. This time next year we might be talking about what a great hire Mayo is, their OL being a beast, and their second round WR being the best of the rookie class. Someone will come in here talking about how Drake May walked into a great situation.

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              • Cdn Bolt
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                Originally posted by Jrock1970 View Post
                It's funny.....they call Payton a QB whisperer......I'm sure Brees couldn't have won a ring without him !!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and all he did was whisper sweet nothing-at-alls in R. Wilsons ear🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 friggin please
                He went from the QB whisperer to Old Yeller.

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                • Boltjolt
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                  Originally posted by richpjr View Post
                  I watched that. Klatt really likes Bowers for us and Harbaugh. Calls him a perfect fit for us. Not sure how well he knows Harbaugh but it isn't the first time I've heard him say that
                  I'd be really good with those 2 picks. Though I might go Barton at 23.

                  It's not the smart way to think but Alabama OTs haven't been the best in the NFL.

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                  • Icebolt
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                    1] Chicago, Caleb Williams
                    2] Washg. J. Daniels
                    3] N.E.- Maye
                    4] Ariz- MHJ
                    5] TRADE w/MINN- JJ Mc
                    6] nyGiants-Nabers
                    7] Titans- Alt
                    8] TRADE-ny Jets- Odunze
                    9] Chicago - D. Turner
                    10] TRADE-Atlanta- Arnold
                    11] TRADE- CHARGERS -Latham
                    12] Denver-Nix
                    13] L.V. - Penix
                    14] N.O.- Fashanu
                    15] Indi- Q. Mitchell
                    16] Seattle- Verse
                    17] Jax- B. Thomas
                    18] Cincy-Bowers
                    19] laRams- Latu
                    20] Pitt-Fuaga
                    21] Miami- Fautanu
                    22] Philly= Mims
                    23] TRADE- Chargers- Byron M
                    24] Dallas- Guyton
                    25] G.B. - Barton
                    26] T.B.- J. Powers-Johnson
                    27] Ariz- Kool-Air
                    28] Buff- A. Mitchell-wr
                    29] Detroit - Wiggins
                    30] Balt - Newton
                    31] S.F. - J. Morgan
                    32] K.C.- Chop Robinson
                    Last edited by Icebolt; 04-25-2024, 08:50 AM.

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                    • charger1_sj
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                      Originally posted by eaterfan View Post

                      If Houston's offense was so good, why was their over under at 6.5? Was Vegas trying to give money away? Why were their odds so high to finish with a top 5 pick?

                      Looking back, those things were obvious. But they weren't obvious at the time. This time next year we might be talking about what a great hire Mayo is, their OL being a beast, and their second round WR being the best of the rookie class. Someone will come in here talking about how Drake May walked into a great situation.
                      Houston hired a new HC and new OC. Both had great success with the 49ers. But they were unknows at the time and Houston definitely needed a QB.
                      Did Vegas underestimated them, definitely. What they missed was not only the impact of the new coaching staff but how good Houston D was and how
                      bad the rest of their division is.

                      Enter NE. Mayo not only is a first time HC, but he's had no success to speak of. Van Pelt is a well seasoned OC. But he got fired from the Browns.
                      NE is up against the Bills, Dolphins and Jets. Jets appear to be the lowest hanging fruit. But that can all change if Rodgers comes back strong and
                      they improve their O line and add to their receiving room. Jets D is top notch. Dolphins O is nothing to sneeze at. Bills have been on top of that
                      D now for the last few years and they have one of the better QBs in the league.

                      In other words Houston hit the jackpot with their coaching and play in a soft division. NE plays in one of the toughest divisions in the AFC along
                      with the North.

                      The odds of NE finishing last with or without a rookie QB are pretty high.

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                      • Lone Bolt
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                        Originally posted by richpjr View Post
                        Oooomph....that would be amazing...
                        Adopted Bolt: Kimani Vidal RB

                        Final prediction: Latham OT, Colson LB, Sainristil CB,Rice WR, Zinter OG, Nourzad OC, MacLachlan TE, Vidal RB, Lovett DT

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                        • Topcat
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                          Originally posted by Lone Bolt View Post

                          Dont encourage him...kitty is the master of "groaners"...
                          Tanks!

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