2014 Official Draft Thread

[Beerman]

Im just not sure hes ready mentally. And im not even certain hes ready as a passer. I can easily see teams pass on him. But who knows. I hope they dont if he comes out.

Forgot Hundley was an academic redshirt. Hes good. His rush numbers were mediocre last year but if he can become a serious dual threat like he was in high school he could be drafted high. When you have so many draft eligible qbs theres bound to be one or two that stay in in hopes of a thinner draft class. I could see Hundley staying in school to hone his craft. Same with Mariota. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Eagles pay a heavy price for him if he comes out. Or draft him if they are in range.

I hope Hundley stays in school (for selfish reasons as a UCLA alum), but I don't think he does if he keeps putting up stats as expected.

Oh I know Manziel isn't mature enough, but it won't matter. Dude is already looking to make money in college and risked his eligibility. He's as good as gone.

[Fleet]

I hope Hundley stays in school (for selfish reasons as a UCLA alum), but I don't think he does if he keeps putting up stats as expected.

Oh I know Manziel isn't mature enough, but it won't matter. Dude is already looking to make money in college and risked his eligibility. He's as good as gone.

He would be leaving a lot of money on the table. I guess if hes stupid you could be right.

[Beerman]

youre joking right?

Ha was probably a bit harsh, but he needs to improve his passing.

[Beerman]

He would be leaving a lot of money on the table. I guess if hes stupid you could be right.

Why do you say that? He's not guaranteed to be a top pick the following year at all. It's not like the old days where the top picks make a ridiculous amount more than the rest of the picks. I mean look at all the scrubs that have gone top 10. He very well could go that high with a good year.

[Fleet]

Why do you say that? He's not guaranteed to be a top pick the following year at all. It's not like the old days where the top picks make a ridiculous amount more than the rest of the picks. I mean look at all the scrubs that have gone top 10. He very well could go that high with a good year.

I doint think hes a first rounder. And not a top 10 pick based on his character flaws. And if your saying hes coming out for the money...im saying he would make a lot less if he went in the 2nd than if he did as a top 10 pick. I think if he stays in school and works on his game he has the potential to be a top 10 pick. Maybe higher. But not this year even if he plays well. At the very least not if he continues to act like a prick and ignore his coach when he wants to give him a piece. Is the kid coachable? Dosnt look like it if hes just going to do what he wants.

You dont need to tell me how the draft is changing and how much less top picks make bro. To think i dont know that is an insult.

Your saying hes Tebow and now your saying hes a top 10 pick? That dosnt even make sense.

[Beerman]

I doint think hes a first rounder. And not a top 10 pick based on his character flaws. And if your saying hes coming out for the money...im saying he would make a lot less if he went in the 2nd than if he did as a top 10 pick. I think if he stays in school and works on his game he has the potential to be a top 10 pick. Maybe higher. But not this year even if he plays well. At the very least not if he continues to act like a prick and ignore his coach when he wants to give him a piece. Is the kid coachable? Dosnt look like it if hes just going to do what he wants.

You dont need to tell me how the draft is changing and how much less top picks make bro. To think i dont know that is an insult.

Your saying hes Tebow and now your saying hes a top 10 pick? That dosnt even make sense.

Well Tebow went 17th if I remember correctly. I don't think he falls out of the top 15 personally if he keeps playing well (as long as he improves his passing even slightly and keeps his accuracy).

You have a point if he falls out of the 1st round, I just don't see that happening with so many teams open to moving to a run option offense.

[Antonio's Gates]

lol "character flaws". if manziel has character flaws then so does every other 20 year old.

[Fleet]

Well Tebow went 17th if I remember correctly. I don't think he falls out of the top 15 personally if he keeps playing well (as long as he improves his passing even slightly and keeps his accuracy).

You have a point if he falls out of the 1st round, I just don't see that happening with so many teams open to moving to a run option offense.

In a draft with so many level headed and solid QBs i would think he drops. Not every team in the NFL needs a QB. Brees had an unreal college career and fell to the 2nd. Manziel isnt even close to being the passer Brees was. And i dont hes even as good as Russel Wilson. He won the heisman for running the ball. And he did that behind a once in a lifetime OL that consisted of Joekel and Mathews. Im just not sold on him yet..

And his on and off the field behavior is enough to make teams pass on him with a first rounder. He rarely went through progressions last year.

Again though seeing him walk right past his coach really got under my skin. It was good to see him get benched. He got benched in his first game of the year. When was the last time that happened to a stud QB?

I watch a lot of college ball and have for years....and cant remember a freshman qb creating more drama than him.

[Fleet]

lol "character flaws". if manziel has character flaws then so does every other 20 year old.

You are such a fucking Manziel homer its disgusting. lol.

[Beerman]

In a draft with so many level headed and solid QBs i would think he drops. Not every team in the NFL needs a QB. Brees had an unreal college career and fell to the 2nd. Manziel isnt even close to being the passer Brees was. And i dont hes even as good as Russel Wilson. He won the heisman for running the ball. And he did that behind a once in a lifetime OL that consisted of Joekel and Mathews. Im just not sold on him yet..

And his on and off the field behavior is enough to make teams pass on him with a first rounder. He rarely went through progressions last year.

Again though seeing him walk right past his coach really got under my skin. It was good to see him get benched. He got benched in his first game of the year. When was the last time that happened to a stud QB?

I watch a lot of college ball and have for years....and cant remember a freshman qb creating more drama than him.

Oh I definitely agree he's pretty raw, but then again teams took Locker and Ponder in the top 10.

I disagree that teams aren't desperate for QB's. Off the top of my head - Oakland, Jax, Minn, Tenn, Zona, Chicago (Cutler FA), KC, Philly (Vick on a 1 year deal), Tampa (Freeman FA). That's 9 teams that all could be drafting a QB in the 1st round.

[Fleet]

You think Minn/Tenn/Jax are already blowing these high draft picks out? Palmer just signed a big 3 year deal and Zona used a draft pick for him. Cutler with protection isnt a terrible QB. Even his coach has said his issues are protection related. Philly has Foles and just drafted Barkley. Tampa just drafted Glennon. Chiefs just used a 2nd for Smith.

I just dont think all these teams will consider qb a need. Eagles need defense. Tampa could go QB. Oakland will go QB unless Pryor really shows he can play. Theres so many other stud players in this draft that a lot of teams will just wait to see who falls to them in the 2nd. The more QBs you have available the higher the potential for them dropping.

[Beerman]

You think Minn/Tenn/Jax are already blowing these high draft picks out? Palmer just signed a big 3 year deal and Zona used a draft pick for him. Cutler with protection isnt a terrible QB. Even his coach has said his issues are protection related. Philly has Foles and just drafted Barkley. Tampa just drafted Glennon. Chiefs just used a 2nd for Smith.

I just dont think all these teams will consider qb a need. Eagles need defense. Tampa could go QB. Oakland will go QB unless Pryor really shows he can play. Theres so many other stud players in this draft that a lot of teams will just wait to see who falls to them in the 2nd. The more QBs you have available the higher the potential for them dropping.

It's all those players 3rd year. None have produced. I can easily see them move on or at least bring in competition if a highly graded QB is on the board (and they all have another losing season).

Yea Eagles need D, but Kelly also needs a QB if Vick doesn't work out. Foles can't run his offense.

And to reiterate, I think a lot of teams passed on QB's this past draft because they saw how good these guys are. So many teams got 1 year stop gap guys.