2014 Official Draft Thread

[Boltjolt]

I used Smileys faces and LOL's. Bro just chill. Jesus. You sort of sounded like we were beneath you for having some fun with the generator.

LOL, you always seem to say those kind of things to me for some reason and i dont know why . Just because i like putting together multiple round mocks i guess, I dont know. Its not like im right very much. I like picking the right possitions for teams as much as the player. Its all a best guess game.

[Beerman]

Well im not one to use a generator and i dont like picking two CBs. No OLB and no WR? RB in the second? Not good use of a high pick imo.

OLB and WR are our two most crowded positions if you take the guys coming back from injury into account. The whole point is to predict what TT will do. I see him keeping everyone in those positions. We will conceivably have TWO CB's in Wright and Williams on the entire roster this offseason. Why wouldn't you draft two cbs if that's the case?

Tre Mason is a fucking stud, if he drops to us in the 2nd he's the BPA. Matthews is a FA after the year. Ronnie is likely gone.

The better question is why don't you recognize why we could go this route?

[Boltjolt]

OLB and WR are our two most crowded positions if you take the guys coming back from injury into account. The whole point is to predict what TT will do. I see him keeping everyone in those positions. We will conceivably have TWO CB's in Wright and Williams on the entire roster this offseason. Why wouldn't you draft two cbs if that's the case?

Tre Mason is a fucking stud, if he drops to us in the 2nd he's the BPA. Matthews is a FA after the year. Ronnie is likely gone.

The better question is why don't you recognize why we could go this route?

Because im not convinced we will keep Floyd with a 4 million cap hit and DX has two bad knees. They may sign him to a one year deal but he is a big risk as well. Will Royal still be around with his big cap number? Im pretty convinced they will draft another WR.

Mathews i think is a shoo in resigning and we have Woodhead. I can see them drafting one later maybe or signing a FA or just going with Kerwynn Williams who is on our PS and a Sproles type of player who also returns kicks. He is about the same size as Woodhead. Mason wouldnt start and RBs arent valued as they once were. Hec Andre Ellington was a 6th rounder and that guy was a damn good college player and is Arizonas best RB already.

CBs we dont know if Cox will be back or if we will rebound and we also have Gilchrist, Wright and Williams. I can see a draft pick or a FA but dont see two rookies that would being drafted for depth along with what would be Williams rookie season. Id love to see Verner but he might be too expensive. Sam Shields would be another good one who wont cost as much.

OLB is crowded with whom really? If Freeney is brought back, he would be 34, injury prone and expensive with one year remaining. JJ would be 33 and expensive with a 5. mil cap hit and he missed multiple games. English wont be back, Keisler is good depth and then there is Ingram and Williams. Walker isnt anything to speak of. We need pass rushers and that is all there is to it.
You can never have enough good pass rushers in a 3-4 and we really dont. Ingram and Freeney are the only real pass rushers we have and one is about done.

The cap room could change this as well and they may not keep both Freeney and JJ. Just how i see it and of course, i could very well b wrong.

[AaronM]

Its possible your posts were in threads i had to delete because of the Time Change issue we had. Sorry if thats what happened. Was it yesterday that you posted?

No, it turned out to be an older thread started by someone else involving a hoax and some player's legs being broken. Deleted shortly after I posted in it. I totally forgot about it.


On topic though,
Spending too much time on this sim shit. Championship!


19
QB BRETT HUNDLEY
UCLA
50
QB A.J. MCCARRON
ALABAMA
81
QB AARON MURRAY
GEORGIA
115
QB DAVID FALES
SAN JOSE STATE
146
QB BRAXTON MILLER
OHIO STATE
177
QB LOGAN THOMAS
VIRGINIA TECH
211
QB CONNOR SHAW
SOUTH CAROLINA


Nah, I'm kidding.. I think?

Dunno why I picked Lynch and Jeffcoat, I guess it felt good


19
DT LOUIS NIX III
NOTRE DAME
50
S DEONE BUCANNON
WASHINGTON STATE
81
DE JACKSON JEFFCOAT
TEXAS
115
OT SEANTREL HENDERSON
MIAMI
146
CB VICTOR HAMPTON
SOUTH CAROLINA
177
DE AARON LYNCH
USF
211
RB TYLER GAFFNEY
STANFORD

[zoom]

Dang! I had a last second change and couldn't head out for XMAS. Serious time killer (in a good way) here.

I was looking at the drafttek sim as well. fanspeak is much easier/quicker.

[Fleet]

No, it turned out to be an older thread started by someone else involving a hoax and some player's legs being broken. Deleted shortly after I posted in it. I totally forgot about it.


On topic though,
Spending too much time on this sim shit. Championship!


19
QB BRETT HUNDLEY
UCLA
50
QB A.J. MCCARRON
ALABAMA
81
QB AARON MURRAY
GEORGIA
115
QB DAVID FALES
SAN JOSE STATE
146
QB BRAXTON MILLER
OHIO STATE
177
QB LOGAN THOMAS
VIRGINIA TECH
211
QB CONNOR SHAW
SOUTH CAROLINA


Nah, I'm kidding.. I think?

Dunno why I picked Lynch and Jeffcoat, I guess it felt good


19
DT LOUIS NIX III
NOTRE DAME
50
S DEONE BUCANNON
WASHINGTON STATE
81
DE JACKSON JEFFCOAT
TEXAS
115
OT SEANTREL HENDERSON
MIAMI
146
CB VICTOR HAMPTON
SOUTH CAROLINA
177
DE AARON LYNCH
USF
211
RB TYLER GAFFNEY
STANFORD

LOL. That 2nd draft is pretty nice.

[Beerman]

Because im not convinced we will keep Floyd with a 4 million cap hit and DX has two bad knees. They may sign him to a one year deal but he is a big risk as well. Will Royal still be around with his big cap number? Im pretty convinced they will draft another WR.

Mathews i think is a shoo in resigning and we have Woodhead. I can see them drafting one later maybe or signing a FA or just going with Kerwynn Williams who is on our PS and a Sproles type of player who also returns kicks. He is about the same size as Woodhead. Mason wouldnt start and RBs arent valued as they once were. Hec Andre Ellington was a 6th rounder and that guy was a damn good college player and is Arizonas best RB already.

CBs we dont know if Cox will be back or if we will rebound and we also have Gilchrist, Wright and Williams. I can see a draft pick or a FA but dont see two rookies that would being drafted for depth along with what would be Williams rookie season. Id love to see Verner but he might be too expensive. Sam Shields would be another good one who wont cost as much.

OLB is crowded with whom really? If Freeney is brought back, he would be 34, injury prone and expensive with one year remaining. JJ would be 33 and expensive with a 5. mil cap hit and he missed multiple games. English wont be back, Keisler is good depth and then there is Ingram and Williams. Walker isnt anything to speak of. We need pass rushers and that is all there is to it.
You can never have enough good pass rushers in a 3-4 and we rely dont. Ingram and Freeney are the only real pass ushers we have and one is about done.

Just how i see it. The cap room could change this as well and they may not keep both Freeney and JJ.

Those are all what ifs as well. Teams don't have the luxury of carrying so many OLB's. We are already at 5 with guys under contract. I see us going after an OLB next draft once we clear Freeney and JJ off the books. Could change this offseason, but I suspect it won't.

Even if they move Gilchrist to NB, we still need more CBs. At least two more. Verner will cost an assload. As will Sam Shields. CBs generally are very well paid in FA.

Floyd's contract is FULLY guaranteed next year. He may retire and we can clear it from the cap. TBD.

You may think Matthews is a shoo in to resign. Doesn't mean his agent and TT will agree on his price. Mason is a stud. Like I said he was BPA at the moment when I made that pick in the generator. Can never have too many playmakers. RBs get injured.

[Boltjolt]

Dang! I had a last second change and couldn't head out for XMAS. Serious time killer (in a good way) here.

I was looking at the drafttek sim as well. fanspeak is much easier/quicker.

Drafttek pics the players for you after you input what ever you want.

[TTK]

Because im not convinced we will keep Floyd with a 4 million cap hit and DX has two bad knees. They may sign him to a one year deal but he is a big risk as well. Will Royal still be around with his big cap number? Im pretty convinced they will draft another WR.

Mathews i think is a shoo in resigning and we have Woodhead. I can see them drafting one later maybe or signing a FA or just going with Kerwynn Williams who is on our PS and a Sproles type of player who also returns kicks. He is about the same size as Woodhead. Mason wouldnt start and RBs arent valued as they once were. Hec Andre Ellington was a 6th rounder and that guy was a damn good college player and is Arizonas best RB already.

CBs we dont know if Cox will be back or if we will rebound and we also have Gilchrist, Wright and Williams. I can see a draft pick or a FA but dont see two rookies that would being drafted for depth along with what would be Williams rookie season. Id love to see Verner but he might be too expensive. Sam Shields would be another good one who wont cost as much.

OLB is crowded with whom really? If Freeney is brought back, he would be 34, injury prone and expensive with one year remaining. JJ would be 33 and expensive with a 5. mil cap hit and he missed multiple games. English wont be back, Keisler is good depth and then there is Ingram and Williams. Walker isnt anything to speak of. We need pass rushers and that is all there is to it.
You can never have enough good pass rushers in a 3-4 and we rely dont. Ingram and Freeney are the only real pass ushers we have and one is about done.

The cap room could change this as well and they may not keep both Freeney and JJ. Just how i see it and of course, i could very well b wrong.

I think Floyd is going to stick around one more year. He does have a $4 million cap number but a $5 million in dead money if they cut him.

I agree with you completely about the pass rushers. Follow the NYG model and keep on drafting them.

[Boltjolt]

Those are all what ifs as well. Teams don't have the luxury of carrying so many OLB's. We are already at 5 with guys under contract. I see us going after an OLB next draft once we clear Freeney and JJ off the books. Could change this offseason, but I suspect it won't.

Even if they move Gilchrist to NB, we still need more CBs. At least two more. Verner will cost an assload. As will Sam Shields. CBs generally are very well paid in FA.

Floyd's contract is FULLY guaranteed next year. He may retire and we can clear it from the cap. TBD.

You may think Matthews is a shoo in to resign. Doesn't mean his agent and TT will agree on his price. Mason is a stud. Like I said he was BPA at the moment when I made that pick in the generator. Can never have too many playmakers. RBs get injured.

Yes i know this is all what if's. I just Doubt Mathews is a difficult singing at all. He is playing where he wants to be. I dont see him leaving. Mason is a good player but i dont see a 2nd round RB being drafted with other bigger issues, but who knows.

I cant see going with three rookie CB's (Williams will essentually be a rookie)in the secondary. Verner will cost , Shields is affordable and wouldnt cost as much as Cox....who is another matter if he is around or not. They save 1.6 mil by cutting him but then have 3.9 mil in dead money. No idea what they will do there. I dont think the secondary is as big a problem as the pass rush. A better pass rush will fix the secondary.

BTW, Johnny Patrick did not clear waivers. We claimed him off waivers so he has a year left under contract with us. We assumed his rookie contract. His concussions could be an issue though he went on IR with an ankle injury. If not, then we have another CB on the roster.


This will be an interesting offseason for us for sure. I guess we will have a better idea of things after FA'cy at least. Tough to say right now.

[Boltjolt]

Well i used the generator to check it out. Fanspeak. Heres how mine turned out. Doubt the first rounder guy is there when we pick though.


The available players when i picked in the link. Looking at the available i may have gone Mack but was trigger happy when i saw Matthews there, lol.

http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/draft.php?d=kwfhqi

YOUR PICKS
19
OT JAKE MATTHEWS
TEXAS A&M
50
DT EGO FERGUSON
LSU
81
DE JACKSON JEFFCOAT
TEXAS
115
CB JAYLEN WATKINS
FLORIDA
146
WR MIKE DAVIS
TEXAS
177
OG JON HALAPIO
FLORIDA
211
TE ROB BLANCHFLOWER
UMASS

[Beerman]

Yes i know this is all what if's. I just Doubt Mathews is a difficult singing at all. He is playing where he wants to be. I dont see him leaving. Mason is a good player but i dont see a 2nd round RB being drafted with other bigger issues, but who knows.

I cant see going with three rookie CB's (Williams will essentually be a rookie)in the secondary. Verner will cost , Shields is affordable and wouldnt cost as much as Cox....who is another matter if he is around or not. They save 1.6 mil by cutting him but then have 3.9 mil in dead money. No idea what they will do there. I dont think the secondary is as big a problem as the pass rush. A better pass rush will fix the secondary.

BTW, Johnny Patrick did not clear waivers. We claimed him off waivers so he has a year left under contract with us. We assumed his rookie contract. His concussions could be an issue though he went on IR with an ankle injury. If not, then we have another CB on the roster.


This will be an interesting offseason for us for sure. I guess we will have a better idea of things after FA'cy at least. Tough to say right now.

I don't see that at all. He's going to want to cash in.

I also don't see why you think Shields will be cheap. He won't be. He rejected a multiyear deal this offseason and took the RFA tag. He's 25 and only getting better.

They aren't gonna pay Cox 4 mill salary to ride the bench if they can get out of his contract, which supposedly they can. The dead money hit can be spread over two years giving them even more cap room next year when needed.

I guess they can keep Patrick. Don't think his spot is assured at all, but he should at least make it to camp.