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I kinda like the idea of Ladd-M Williams-Taylor all on the field at the same time forcing teams to try to account for them all and then throw in Conklin and another rookie WR..
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Does Taylor's production in College merit a first or 2nd round pick? I'm not so sure? in his redzone play a total of 2 TDs?Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post
Taylor is true flex TE that you can line up all over the formation and he’s a mismatch nightmare. 6’5” 255 and he runs good routes and has those great hands. Taylor has a drop rate of 1.8%. That’s ridiculously good. In contrast as I pointed out, Terrance Ferguson had a drop rate of 10.4% this year. As one poster pointed out, may have been because of the left handed QB.
I like the idea of MW-Taylor-Conklin-Ladd-Najee-rookie RB in some combination that opens up the field for Herbert.
I think Taylor solves a huge part of the receiving issues outside of Ladd. He’s so good at boxing out his defender(s) and presenting himself as a receiver. And he’s a serious nightmare in the red zone. One of the biggest pros I noticed about Taylor is his ability to get open down in the red zone where it’s congested. That mismatch in the red zone has to be considered with him.
. REC. 55. YDS. 546. TD. 2. AVG. 9.9.
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CB depth is a big concern for me.Originally posted by sonorajim View Post
Before the draft and preseason, like now, we have to assume that all our coming opponents will have decent DBs.
On the other hand, we can assume that all our weapons are good. How can we upgrade our attack as a team?
Speaking of team, our D isn't perfect and we will ignore them in the draft at our peril.
IHIT !.Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
Let’s win one for Mack.
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? When it comes to making the catch, Ferguson is clean and reliable. He only has seven drops in his career, with four coming this last season. This is what's written about him?Originally posted by Jack Burton View PostTE Terrance Fergusons drop percentage increased from 5.3% in 2023 to 10.3% in 2024.
Bowers had 6 drops last season for the Raiders? I think you may be thinking about the wrong thing. We need as a complete as possible TE in Harbuagh and Roman's O!
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80% + vs Houston. IMO.Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post
LG wouldn’t be a problem if Herbert got rid of the ball faster. He needs weapons besides Ladd McConkey to do that.
Better TE’s and another speedy receiver who can stretch the defense will immensely improve that.
Defenses could crowd and press,our OL last year because our TE’s were a joke and QJ could be covered by any JAG.
No OL in the league is good enough without offensive weapons. It’s unrealistic for QB’s to hold the ball forever. IOL was sub par, for sure, but they don’t deserve all the blame.
Heck with holding the ball all day. How about giving Herbert @ 2 seconds more often? Becton and James may help.
I agree that adding a run game, Najee Harris and receiving targets to Ladd and Dissley like Mike and Conklin will help.
Getting better is the point. IHIT !
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Final year of college statsOriginally posted by electricgold View Post
Does Taylor's production in College merit a first or 2nd round pick? I'm not so sure? in his redzone play a total of 2 TDs?
. REC. 55. YDS. 546. TD. 2. AVG. 9.9.
JEREMY SHOCKEY 1ST RND 40 REC 529 YDS 7 TD
HEATH MILLER 1ST RND 41 REC 541 YDS 5 TDS
DALLAS CLARK 1ST RND 43 REC 742 YDS 4 TDS
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100%. But I think Taylor goes before our pick in round 2. I also agree that we may take him in round 1.Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post
Taylor is true flex TE that you can line up all over the formation and he’s a mismatch nightmare. 6’5” 255 and he runs good routes and has those great hands. Taylor has a drop rate of 1.8%. That’s ridiculously good. In contrast as I pointed out, Terrance Ferguson had a drop rate of 10.4% this year. As one poster pointed out, may have been because of the left handed QB.
I like the idea of MW-Taylor-Conklin-Ladd-Najee-rookie RB in some combination that opens up the field for Herbert.
I think Taylor solves a huge part of the receiving issues outside of Ladd. He’s so good at boxing out his defender(s) and presenting himself as a receiver. And he’s a serious nightmare in the red zone. One of the biggest pros I noticed about Taylor is his ability to get open down in the red zone where it’s congested. That mismatch in the red zone has to be considered with him.HowellER KlareTE FarmerOG M'baDT TollisonC 4.3.26
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Based on the above I would say you have backed up the argument he probably merits a 2nd round pick at best!Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post
Final year of college stats
JEREMY SHOCKEY 1ST RND 40 REC 529 YDS 7 TD
HEATH MILLER 1ST RND 41 REC 541 YDS 5 TDS
DALLAS CLARK 1ST RND 43 REC 742 YDS 4 TDS
All three players were better in college. Shockey and Clark put up thier numbers in their 2nd year than turned pro, and Miller was head and shoulders better than Taylor in his three seasons.
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Oh, I agree. I don’t think Taylor makes it to 55.Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
100%. But I think Taylor goes before our pick in round 2. I also agree that we may take him in round 1.
I don’t like all those teams at the end of the 1st sitting there being able to select a guy like Taylor with huge upside and all of them have a need to address TE.
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Unfortunately, the stats which is what you posted don’t bear that out. Taylor was as good or close to all 3.Originally posted by electricgold View Post
Based on the above I would say you have backed up the argument he probably merits a 2nd round pick at best!
All three players were better in college. Shockey and Clark put up thier numbers in their 2nd year than turned pro, and Miller was head and shoulders better than Taylor in his three seasons.
And all 3 were 1st round picks. And all 3 were very good in the NFL.
You just saying they were better in college is laughable.
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Statistically which you are bringing up, they were better!Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post
Unfortunately, the stats which is what you posted don’t bear that out. Taylor was as good or close to all 3.
And all 3 were 1st round picks. And all 3 were very good in the NFL.
You just saying they were better in college is laughable.
Taylor's year 2 in college stats: Rec: 36 Yards: 348 TD:1
Should we list all three first round TE's you mention year 2 stats?
Not saying its impossible that Mason will be overdrafted in round 1, but most everyone doesn't have Mason going round 1!
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If you are looking at production alone... then Taylor's numbers will not wow you.Originally posted by electricgold View Post
Does Taylor's production in College merit a first or 2nd round pick? I'm not so sure? in his redzone play a total of 2 TDs?
. REC. 55. YDS. 546. TD. 2. AVG. 9.9.
But you have to understand that LSU consistently under-utilizes the TE in its offense. It's all about WR's @LSU. Also, their QB wasn't very good last year.
Now, if you look at his potential... hands, routes, versatility, blocking... then you will see a TE that can be very productive within Harbaugh/Roman offense. Often times, LSU went to Taylor in crucial situations. He can be trusted to convert down/distance/situation... and do everything he's asked to do. I've watched a lot of his tape (multiple whole games).
I've been pimping Taylor for 6 months+... way back when he was being projected as a 3rd rounder. I've always maintained that he would be great value @#55. Having said that... I wouldn't pick him @#22. I think there will be better (more impactful) players available @#22. Plus... I think some other TE's (Arroyo/Fanin) are better slotted @#55. Those TE's can be productive/impactful in this offense. They won't be as well-rounded as Taylor... but they would give Herbert a weapon we haven't had @TE for quite a while. They should take pressure off Ladd, too.Protect the QB
Run the ball
Play great defense
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