Official 2019 Pre Draft Discussion

[Steve]

IT may be worth noticing that the last moderate bust we had was Verrett. I say moderate because they evaluated him in terms of ability alright, but missed on the durability. But he was a need pick. Fluker was a need pick. Bosa was not a need. Nether was James. Or Williams. Looking at it that way, the path forward seems obvious. Don't draft needs, that is what FA is for, and the FA period is still not over.

[Boltjolt]

Some behind the scene stuff:
http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles...ts-first-round

Good read thanks. It's why I say who they bring in means little because I'm sure they like many players and are sold on some already and don't need a private visit. Guys like Someone need those visits so they can grill Jim more than they can at the combine....or just get to know guys who they aren't sure about.
i haven't done a search to see who they drafted that didn't visit either in private or the combine, etc.

But I do remember Antione Cason said he never talked to the Chargers and was our first round pick. Of course that was with AJ as GM.

[Xenos]

Some behind the scene stuff:

http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-chargers/post/_/id/26185/chargers-gm-tom-telesco-on-a-hot-streak-in-the-nfl-drafts-first-round

So what's the secret to Telesco's success? He leans on the work of his scouting department, grabs talented players with good production from big-name conferences and counts on his coaching staff to coach them up.

"We're not going to hit on every draft pick," Telesco said. "You try and hit on every pick, obviously, but you really want to hit on the one [first-round pick]. We put a lot of effort into that. It's not 100 percent, but I would credit that staff for that, and the fact that they work well with our coaches, who get more into the scouting end of it when their season ends.

"And then it's not only drafting the players, but putting them into the scheme in the right places, using their strengths the right way and developing them, and our coaches have done that. You've seen it with Mike Williams. Obviously he's very talented, but you've seen some big strides from Year 1 to Year 2."

The drafting of Bosa three years ago with the No. 3 overall selection is another example of the Chargers quietly going about their business.

Several draft analysts had the Chargers selecting offensive tackle Ronnie Stanley or cornerback Jalen Ramsey with that selection, not believing Bosa was a scheme fit for the Bolts' 3-4 defense at the time.

But Bosa climbed to the top of the Chargers' draft board by January. The Chargers took Bosa out to dinner before his pro day at Ohio State, and defensive line coach Giff Smith was closely involved in his workout the next day.

The Bolts did their homework, had a plan on how they would use Bosa, and now -- 28.5 sacks later -- have one of the more productive defensive ends in the league.

"You just keep your mouth shut and you work -- that's all we did," Telesco said about the Bosa pick. "It was never our intention to deceive anyone. We just did our work throughout that process.

"There were a lot of good players that we could have considered for the No. 3 pick. But in the end, with Joey, he had that combination of pass-rush ability from different alignments, his ability to play the run at the point of attack and in pursuit, and he had that football temperament we were looking for."

[Topcat]

Leaf has more than paid for his failures. That guy really hit rock bottom. And i know the driving force behind his disease was that monster of a failure label. He clearly showed the symptoms early. Selfishness. Laziness.

His story now and his turn around are pretty epic. I used to love hearing him guest host on local radio shows. That guy has learned the hard way how to be a man.

And overcome his shortcomings.

True dat...glad he overcame...

[NoMoreChillies]

I really like Lawrence's run-stuffing ability; it's just that he's not much of a pass rusher. Ideally, we draft a DT who can do both.

Quinnen Williams
Christian Wilkins
Dre'Mont Jones

any of these falling to #28?
or you got someone else in mind?

[Fleet]

Leaf has more than paid for his failures. That guy really hit rock bottom. And i know the driving force behind his disease was that monster of a failure label. He clearly showed the symptoms early. Selfishness. Laziness.

His story now and his turn around are pretty epic. I used to love hearing him guest host on local radio shows. That guy has learned the hard way how to be a man.

And overcome his shortcomings.

[Topcat]

Some history... Chargers only appear on this list once, but it's a doozy:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ks/3410644002/

Oh my...did someone say the "L" word again?

[wu-dai clan]

Philon reportedly had the worst interview in the history of the combine. Those things don't necessarily bother Telesco

TT found value. Philon was very young, probably coming out a year early.

[powderblueboy]

Not Steve or ninja but chiming in.

Polite has elite bend, speed, and burst ala Von Miller.

Polite is introverted, causing poor interviews.

Don't be surprised if TT goes for Attaochu redux.

Philon reportedly had the worst interview in the history of the combine. Those things don't necessarily bother Telesco

[wu-dai clan]

Some history... Chargers only appear on this list once, but it's a doozy:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ks/3410644002/

[Bolt-O]

Some history... Chargers only appear on this list once, but it's a doozy:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2019/04/10/nfl-draft-busts-biggest-history-ever-picks-players-quarterbacks/3410644002/

[Fleet]

Updated list of private workouts. Good to see they are taking my advice on Takitaki.

Los Angeles Chargers

• Johnathan Abram, S, Mississippi State (PRI)
• Nasir Adderley, S, Delaware (SR)
• Ryquell Armstead, RB/FB, Temple (SR)
• Corey Ballentine, CB, Washburn (SR)
• Jackson Barton, OT, Utah (EW)
• Kendall Blanton, TE, Missouri (EW)
• Kris Boyd, CB, Texas (SR)
• Blace Brown, CB, Troy (EW)
• Malik Carney, OLB, North Carolina (EW)
• Byron Cowart, DE/3-4DE, Maryland (PRI)
• Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State (SR)
• Jon Duhart, WR, Old Dominion (EW)
• Jack Fox, P, Rice (EW)
• Ulysees Gilbert III, OLB/ILB, Akron (PRI)
• Ethan Greenidge, OT, Villanova (PRO)
• Will Grier, QB, West Virginia (SR)
• Tim Harris, CB, Virginia (PRO)
• Tae Hayes, CB, Appalachian State (PRO)
• Daniel Helm, TE, Duke (EW)
• Brandon Hitner^, OT, Villanova (PRO, PRI)
• Ka'dar Hollman, CB, Toledo (EW)
• Anthony Johnson, WR, Buffalo (SR)
• KeeSean Johnson, WR, Fresno State (PRO)
• Daniel Jones, QB, Duke (WOR)
• Drew Lock, QB, Missouri (PRI)
• DaMarkus Lodge, WR, Ole Miss (EW)
• Kaleb McGary, OT, Washington (PRI)
• Joshua Miles, G, Morgan State (EW)
• Dare Odeyingbo, DE, Vanderbilt (PRO)
• Ed Oliver^, DT, Houston (PRI, PRO)
• Kyle Phillips, DE, Tennessee (PRO)
• Trey Pipkins, OT, Sioux Falls (EW)
• Ryan Pope, OT, San Diego State (EW)
• Brett Rypien, QB, Boise State (EW)
• Deebo Samuel, WR, South Carolina (PRO)
• Matt Sokol, TE, Michigan State (EW)
• Easton Stick^, QB, North Dakota State (EW, PRI)
• Jordan Ta'amu, QB, Ole Miss (EW)
• Sione Takitaki, OLB, Brigham Young (PRI)
• Juan Thornhill, S, Virginia (PRO)
• Tre Watson, ILB, Maryland (EW)
• Kevin Wilkins, DT, Rutgers (EW)
• Joejuan Williams, CB, Vanderbilt (PRO)
• Caleb Wilson, TE, UCLA (SR)
• Mack Wilson, ILB, Alabama (PRI)
• Daniel Wise, DT, Kansas (EW)