Official 2019 Pre Draft Discussion

[wu-dai clan]

There is the concept of something called "The Explosion Number" by Pat Kirwan.

The idea is that if you look at certain Combine test numbers together, you can determine if a prospect stands out as an extra elite athlete, even vs other NFL prospects.

Although not the be all, it is especially useful for EDGE and LBs.

Any thing over 70 is great. Von Miller scored a 76.

Bench Press reps + Vertical Jump in inches + Broad Jump in feet.

Let's take Justin Hollins, EDGE/LEO/SAM/MIKE Oregon.
ninja has us taking him at round 4, #130, and I am gonna copy that.

Bench 25. Vert 36.5 . Broad 10.
This puts Hollins at 71.

We all know of HOF players who were not overly athletic, but the Explosion Number can be a helpful tool.

You can crunch the numbers on prospects for yourself. Is there production to go with the athleticism? If not, can the super athlete be coached up ? Does the player "...look like Tarzan but play like Jane," as Joel Buchsbaum used to say ?

[like54ninjas]

There is the concept of something called "The Explosion Number" by Pat Kirwan.

The idea is that if you look at certain Combine test numbers together, you can determine if a prospect stands out as an extra elite athlete, even vs other NFL prospects.

Although not the be all, it is especially useful for EDGE and LBs.

Any thing over 70 is great. Von Miller scored a 76.

Bench Press reps + Vertical Jump in inches + Broad Jump in feet.

Let's take Justin Hollins, EDGE/LEO/SAM/MIKE Oregon.
ninja has us taking him at round 4, #130, and I am gonna copy that.

Bench 25. Vert 36.5 . Broad 10.
This puts Hollins at 71.

We all know of HOF players who were not overly athletic, but the Explosion Number can be a helpful tool.

You can crunch the numbers on prospects for yourself. Is there production to go with the athleticism? If not, can the super athlete be coached up ? Does the player "...look like Tarzan but play like Jane," as Joel Buchsbaum used to say ?

Great info wood. The more information at hand the better/consistency of the on field product.
Throw in Hollins has excellent agility numbers, that match on field tape, and his consistent/increasing production for 3 years show he is coachable, ascending, and has a good IQ. He has shown a lack consistent physicality and that is my concern.

[jamrock]

Great info wood. The more information at hand the better/consistency of the on field product.
Throw in Hollins has excellent agility numbers, that match on field tape, and his consistent/increasing production for 3 years show he is coachable, ascending, and has a good IQ. He has shown a lack consistent physicality and that is my concern.

wu dai clan's research is a benefit to all. Thanks wu dai clan

[Sgt Schultz]

1. Nasir Adderley, Delaware (6-0, 195, 4.46)

Philadelphia, Pa. (Great Valley), Senior, 5/31/1997 (age 21.92)

Strengths: Cornerback athleticism with quick feet and fluid change of direction ... outstanding drive quickness and closing speed ... flashes an extra gear to cover the sideline ... instinctive and quick to sort and react ... displays the ball skills of a former wide receiver (nine interceptions the past two seasons) ... magnet to the ball in run defense ... strong hands to finish tackles in the open field ... competes with an edge and the required toughness for the position, bouncing back from physical hits ... added return duties to his resume, including a highlight-reel 92-yard touchdown return as a senior ... extensive experience at every position in the secondary with top intangibles.

Weaknesses: Shredded physique but lacks ideal bulk and growth potential for the position ... inconsistent in press-man due to impatient feet ... fluid mover but lacks natural explosion to easily recover from a false step ... needs to keep his vision in the right place ... his aggressive playstyle tends to backfire, falling for ball fakes and eye manipulation ... will occasionally throw his shoulder instead of wrapping as a tackler ... limited experience against top-tier competition.

Summary: A four-year starter at Delaware, Adderley, who played safety in high school, signed with the Blue Hens as a cornerback and played there his first two seasons before going to the coaches as a junior and suggesting the move to safety. He played primarily single high, but has experience across the secondary and was the only player in the country with 160-plus tackles and 9-plus interceptions over the past two seasons. Adderley has Hall-of-Fame bloodlines as the cousin of Herb Adderley, who is an important role model to Nasir and they talk "three or four" times a week. Several NFL teams won't draft safeties below 200-pounds, but he runs the alley with conviction and finishes in space. Overall, Adderley has the bad habit of taking the cheese, but he has the essential ingredients of a starting NFL free safety with his play speed, toughness and ball skills, projecting best in a single-high role.

By Dane Brugler

[Boltjolt]

There are other safeties in the draft I like that are good we can get later. Think we going trenches or LB round 1.

[like54ninjas]

There are other safeties in the draft I like that are good we can get later. Think we going trenches or LB round 1.

Which safety prospects do you like for us?

[Maniaque 6]

At 28th, if Risner (T) and Lawrence (DT) are not there, you gotta go with BPA.
Adderley is a possibility.
IMO, James at 17th last year has been lucky.
Adderley at 28th would be almost as lucky.

[Boltjolt]

Which safety prospects do you like for us?

Besides Adderley for FS, not including any SS types.

Thompson
Rapp
Redwine
Savage
Tell

[Sgt Schultz]

To fill the needs, my thoughts:
OL- vet free agent
DL- draft
LB- resign Perryman, mid round draft
S-- draft

[Boltnut]

Juan Thornhill... 4.42 21 + 44 + 12 = 77

[Topcat]

I really like Topcats mock but I just don't think Wilkins will last till our 1st pick nor do I believe Yodny will make it to our 2nd pick.If they do I would be totally cool with them as our choices.

Thanks, Bolt. I'm hoping Wilkins will be there at #28, but realize his stock is up. If he's not there, then one of the other DT's or ILB's at #28 would be good.

[Topcat]

Im typically extremely active during draft season. Im sorry guys ive been so quiet this year. I have a couple health issues that have really picked up over the last year. Nerve disorder in my left face as well as my left leg. I have a nerve issue in my stomach as well. They flare up a lot and i dont make medication for it. I treat naturally. But sometimes im just battling pain. Its been a lot of pain management the last couple years for me.

I feel like i sort of passed the torch here to a couple of you guys. And too see you so active and leading the discussion makes me really happy. Grateful to have you guys continuing the TPB always fairly active draft discussion.

My prayers are with you, Fleet. Appreciate your work on this forum!