Official 2019 Pre Draft Discussion

[Formula 21]

Bob McGinn (formerly of the Wisconsin Journal-Sentinel) has done it again -- he's semi-retired now but is running a for-pay sports website with his son, and is still getting his hands on Wonderlic scores every year from some unnamed scout. He's releasing prospect analyses position-by-position over the next week, and I'll update the Wonderlic scores here as he posts them.

Here's what we've got so far:

Defensive Line
39 Chase Allen
36 Zach Allen
31 Khalen Saunders
31 Jerry Tillery
31 John Cominsky
23 Trysten Hill
23 Joey Bosa
20 Ed Oliver
20 Dre'Mont Jones
19 Christian Wilkins
18 Jaylon Ferguson
17 Dexter Lawrence
14 Jeffery Simmons
13 Olive Sagapolu
11 Quinnen Williams
11 Gerald Willis
9 Rashan Gary


Linebacker
37 Bobby Okereke
35 Ben Burr-Kirven
33 Ryan Connelly
31 Chase Winovich
30 Justin Hollins
28 Drue Tranquill
27 Devin Bush
27 Ty Summers
27 Cody Barton
27 Chase Hansen
27 Cole Holcomb
27 Jordan Brailford
22 Brian Burns
22 Germaine Pratt (re-test; scored 8 on the first try)
21 Rickey Neal
21 Andy Van Ginkel
21 Clelin Ferrell
20 T.J. Edwards
19 Montez Sweat (re-test; scored 14 on the first try)
18 James Nachtigal
18 Devin White
17 Jachai Polite
15 Josh Allen
15 Mack Wilson
14 Sione Takitaki
12 Terrill Hanks


Offensive Line
42 Nick Alligretti
39 Jonah Williams
38 Dru Samia
35 Garrett Bradbury
34 Chuma Edoga
31 Max Scharping
29 Chris Lindstrom
28 Beau Benzschawel
28 Nate Trewyn
27 Oli Udoh
26 Erik McCoy
26 Ross Pierschbacher
26 Sepesitiano Pupungatoa
25 Kaleb McGary
24 Michael Deiter
22 Bobby Evans
21 Nate Davis
20 Jawaan Taylor
20 Greg Little
19 Elgton Jenkins
19 Colin Conner
18 Micah Kapoi


Quarterback
43 Ryan Finley (re-test; scored 28 on the first try)
42 Gardner Minshew
37 Daniel Jones
32 Easton Stick
32 Clayton Thorson
31 Trace McSorley
30 Will Grier
28 Brett Rypien
27 Jarrett Stidham
26 Drew Lock
25 Tyree Jackson
25 Dwayne Haskins
22 Sean McGuire
20 Kyler Murray


Running Back
34 Alec Ingold (re-test; scored 32 on the first try)
30 Justice Hill
25 Damien Harris
22 Bryce Love
21 Qadree Ollison
20 Josh Jacobs
18 Sam Seonbuchner
14 Chris James
12 Darrell Henderson


Safety
25 Mitchell Brees
13 D'Cota Dixon


Specialist
31 Spenser Thompson-Meyers
26 Emmit Carpenter
24 Casey Bednarski


Tight End
39 Zander Neuville
38 Dawson Knox
33 Drew Sample
25 Noah Fant
22 T.J. Hockenson
21 Irv Smith
16 Trevon Wesco
15 Kahale Warring


Wide Receiver
29 JJ. .Arcega-Whiteside
27 Hakeem Butler
26 Miles Boykin
24 N'Keal Harry
21 Marquise Brown
18 A.J. Brown
17 D.K. Metcalf
11 Preston Williams
9 Riley Ridley

[Formula 21]

I wouldn't touch Rashan Gary with a 10 foot pole.

All talent, but no production. Now a torn labrum and apparently not very smart. Not a good combo in my book.

[Formula 21]

Rashan Gary is becoming NFL draft's first free-faller

By Mark Fischer
April 23, 2019 | 11:43am | Updated

Rashan Gary went from Michigan Man to NFL draft mystery man in a hurry.
Some say the athletic defensive lineman is a destined top-10 pick, while others speculate he'll be this year's infamous nose-diver.
This latest revelation won't help Gary's cause.
The athletic 6-foot-4, 277-pounder has a labrum tear in his shoulder, NFL Network revealed Tuesday, and it's reported teams believe Gary can play the coming season while putting off inevitable surgery. The injury was flagged by the league's medical staff ahead of Thursday's draft.
Gary, formerly of Paramus Catholic where he was ranked the No.1 collegiate prospect, suited up in nine games for the Wolverines last season due to shoulder complications.
His shaky sack production -- totaling just 9.5 in three years at Michigan -- had already begun scaring away prospective employers.
"I had one GM say 10-28 for a range," ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper Jr. recently told reporters. "That's one heck of a range for a guy who is very polarizing."
There's always at least one highly coveted prospect left shaking in the NFL draft green room after plunging down the board, and it seems Gary is a prime candidate.

[Bolt-O]

Wonderlic is pretty much useless except for QB, and maybe C and OTs, in my opinion. I can't think of any use for that, other than to downgrade prospects.

[Boltjolt]

Wonderlic is pretty much useless except for QB, and maybe C and OTs, in my opinion. I can't think of any use for that, other than to downgrade prospects.

Agree. It has nothing to do with football but my guess is they think it may have e to do with being able to learn a big play book and adle to comprehend.
Doesnt really sway me at all. LT and Dan Marino both got a 13.

[La Costa Boy]

Yes picking late means your team is good but you miss out on some of the best prospects,.... is all I meant. We can win the next 2 SBs and id still wish we had a top 15 pick. But I'll gladly take the SB wins too.

Yeah I'll pick 32nd for awhile if we earn it!!!!

[La Costa Boy]

How do you score a 9???? Just sit there and drool?

[Bolt-O]

How do you score a 9???? Just sit there and drool?

Some of these guys are "idiot savants" as to reaction and athletic skills, but have never cared about school work, or maybe just told by their agent that the test means nothing to his draft grade, and so they just wait for it to be over with. Even though I think its pretty much worthless for most of these guys, it can mean something for some teams on their dedication to actually getting a job in the NFL. As far as mentality, if you ask the right questions in interviews, you can pretty quickly figure out if there is a fit or not.

[Gwynning_Spirit]

I remember Mayfield scored average on the wonderlic but supposedly aced the AIQ; I don't even know how much teams take it into consideration now.

[Bolt-O]

Seahawks get more picks, but Chiefs get a pass rusher.

[Boltjolt]

For a guy that was a franchise player i sure dont know much about him. Heard of him but seems to me he wasnt all that impactfull. We all usually know who the studs are. Maybe its just me.

[blueman]

The case for DT Simmons @ 28:

We went 13-5 including a road playoff win with half the D starters out due to injury late in the season. Gotta believe we are still a threat just with the guys we have coming back healthy. BUT the roster on paper in April is not the thing, it is the players we can field in December and beyond. AND I cannot let myself think we will not have injuries late, the Chargers have taught me otherwise for nearly 20 years now.

IF the team has done due diligence as to character, and believe he can come back and play in December at the latest, that does not suck. By come back I mean he is healthy and explosive and can give quality snaps if nothing else on the pass rush DL.

Not saying this is who I want at 28, but I could sure understand the pick all things considered, much more than any QB deals. In a very odd way, it may be the most win-now guy we could take at 28 (cuz even below the learning curve/pure athleticism of Simmons likely >>>>> than any other option come the playoffs).