Official 2015 Draft Discussion

[Boltjolt]

The difference between Clary and Fluker at right tackle isn't so much that Clary was worse at any given time. It's that Clary was bad for many years, and the Chargers took forever to do anything about it. If Fluker continues to suck and the Chargers do nothing about it, then, yea, there is no difference between Fluker and Clary.

Fluker can run block and Clary can not.

[Steve]

Does Fluker really run block better? Every once in a while FLuker will blow someone off the line. But most of the time he doesn't make his block. He loses leverage or flat out misses. Clary never blows anyone off the line, but he rarely misses, even at his worst. When he does miss, he usually does it pretty badly, but again, most of the time he does an OK job.

If OL have to blow the DL off the ball, and be driven downfield to be successful, then there are NO OL who are competent in the WHOLE NFL. Even the all pros don't do it regularly.

And lets also remember that probably the best run blocker the Chargers have had in the last 10 or so year was ROman Oben, who never blew anyone off the line in his whole career. But no OL I have seen suit up for SD did a better job of setting up backside cutback lanes. He just tied up the pursuit, didn't let the DE and OLB flow down the line, and LT had a ton of great cutbacks as a result.

Troutman and FLuker have almost all of the devastating drive blocks this season. BUt the also have the majority of the whiffs. And it is the whiffs that have destroyed our running game. You CANNOT sustain drives and run the ball if you are losing yards. And that is why the line is so bad.

[Gwynning_Spirit]

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[Stinky Wizzleteats+]

I have determined with my superior statistical innalisys of imperial data, Yuba' s wet dream draft pick and a player we are guaranteed not to draft.

http://www.snappytv.com/snaps/danny-shelton-barrel-rolls-his-way-into-a-sack-about-football-washington-at-washington-state-on-pac-12-amv-ch-1_5n

Bolts get a player who can be a difference-maker in the heart of their defense, like Haloti Ngata is for the Ravens. At 6'2" and almost 340 lbs., Shelton has a rare combination of power and agility. If you don't believe me, check this play out! Sean Lissemore is a good rotational NT, especially for passing downs, but in only 248 snaps (through Week 15) his -9.2 score, according to ProFootballFocus.com's system, places him 3rd last among eligible NTs. Time for an upgrade...

[thelightningwill]

Fluker can run block and Clary can not.

Fluker can run block sometimes.

[Steve]

I have determined with my superior statistical innalisys of imperial data, Yuba' s wet dream draft pick and a player we are guaranteed not to draft.

http://www.snappytv.com/snaps/danny-shelton-barrel-rolls-his-way-into-a-sack-about-football-washington-at-washington-state-on-pac-12-amv-ch-1_5n

Bolts get a player who can be a difference-maker in the heart of their defense, like Haloti Ngata is for the Ravens. At 6'2" and almost 340 lbs., Shelton has a rare combination of power and agility. If you don't believe me, check this play out! Sean Lissemore is a good rotational NT, especially for passing downs, but in only 248 snaps (through Week 15) his -9.2 score, according to ProFootballFocus.com's system, places him 3rd last among eligible NTs. Time for an upgrade...

OK, first what is a rotational down NT for passing downs? Why would you even play a NT on passing downs? That makes no sense. If your NT can play on passing downs, fine, but we only play 2 DL, so just put the best pass rushers on the field.

As far as Shelton, he gets a sack against an OG with no technique and suddenly he is a top player? The guy put up a ton of stats early in the year, and has done almost nothing the last half of the season. Hard to be impressed. The guy has potential, but the guy is raw, raw, raw. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtNX8G8otfQ

Lissemore is playing fine at NT. He is one of the few guy on our D who can really say that. If the right NT is around, fine, but we need a lot of other help on D, at ILB, OLB, DE..... plus help on O, so it is hard to be in a rush to replace Lissmore. As far as his PFF grade, been there before. Bunch of limy bastards who have never played football are going to grade if NFL players can play........ Give me a fucking break. Rugby, maybe. Football, no.

[Bearded14YourPleasure]

CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomu tore his ACL in practice. He would have been the 1st or 2nd CB taken last year and put together a pretty solid season this year. It will be interesting to see how far he falls, if he is there in the second round he would be a steal even with the injury.

[Formula 21]

CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomu tore his ACL in practice. He would have been the 1st or 2nd CB taken last year and put together a pretty solid season this year. It will be interesting to see how far he falls, if he is there in the second round he would be a steal even with the injury.

Yeah, he'd be a great pickup in the 2nd, but cb is not on the shopping list this year, at least not early.

[Steve]

As deep as our secondary was, it got awfully thin at a couple of points this season. And depending on who leaves or not, it may be a need again.

[Fleet]

Remember when you guys gave me shit for wanting to draft Jeremy Hill? lol

[Boltjolt]

In liked Jeremy Hill. He just had issues and doubted we would look his way.

[Fleet]

I didnt think he would go in the 2nd. Thought he had 2nd round talent but that he would drop.