Future With Lynn?

[richpjr]

Well he should have worked more on Special teams as they were terrible every year
and clock/game management was some of the worst I have witnessed.

The bizarre thing about his clock management is that it is getting worse as time goes by, not better. It's almost like he knows he is on the hot seat and it is affecting his ability to think clearly and he is panicking or freezing up.

[21&500]

This was from 3 years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXcqrzQdMfg

Lynn is quite the comedian.

Straight lies

[Bolt4Knob]

The bizarre thing about his clock management is that it is getting worse as time goes by, not better. It's almost like he knows he is on the hot seat and it is affecting his ability to think clearly and he is panicking or freezing up.

I think that is exactly it

Its like he has the yips in putting or a guy not being able to throw the ball to first base (Steve Sax?) -- its mental now. And he is probably thinking so much - he panicking or freezing up, probably the latter - and nobody is there to help him or he doesn't listen

Yesterday before the half was terrible. I kept wondering why they weren't calling time outs. You have them - use them . Rushing plays as in a hurry up and I think they took two time outs to the locker room. So bad...

[jubei]

I think that is exactly it

Its like he has the yips in putting or a guy not being able to throw the ball to first base (Steve Sax?) -- its mental now. And he is probably thinking so much - he panicking or freezing up, probably the latter - and nobody is there to help him or he doesn't listen

Yesterday before the half was terrible. I kept wondering why they weren't calling time outs. You have them - use them . Rushing plays as in a hurry up and I think they took two time outs to the locker room. So bad...

he's getting confused with the rules...probably thinks he can carry over timeouts into the 2nd half. he'd do great as a capologist!

[PhilaBoltster]

Some coaches should hire a clock management specialist coach to use on the sidelines that they defer to in situations. I know everyone thinks the HC should do it himself because it’s always been done that way, but even some of the best HCs have been bad at it — Andy Reid for example for many years. If it helps win games it should be done. Granted I don’t think this is Lynn’s only problem, but it would help immensely.

[bartman83642]

This stat is for
Did they have a lead when the 3 quarter ended, or another way to say it is, did they start the 4th quarter with the lead.

Of those game Lynn is
2017 8-1
2018 10-1
2019 4-1
2020 2-4

So until this year if a Lynn team was ahead to end the 3 quarter they were 22-3 in those games.

I think this year is not typical of a Lynn coached team.
For the previous 3 seasons, If his team was ahead after 3 quarters, they rarely lost.

It is the behind by a score and then a back and forth and take a lead and then opponent retakes it or with chances to take the lead and win but instead a goaline fumble by Gordon vs Titans last year that feel like they can't close games. Its this year crazy 4 blown leads that is absolutely frustrating. But it is not the pattern of a Lynn coached team.
The 3 out of 4 year pattern is Lynn team is closing those deals.

Interesting bit of stats you have there but I wouldn't hang your hat (or Lynn's for that matter) on them. At this point the bottom line is in his stint as the Chargers coach he is still overall sitting at 29-30. As far as those wins after 3 quarters lets break that down a little further.

2017: 8-1 with 6 of those wins coming against teams with losing records and the one loss coming against a 6-10 Dolphins team. The two wins against winning teams came against 9-7 Bills and Cowboys.

2018: 10-1 with 8 of those wins coming against teams with losing records and the one loss coming against a6-10 Broncos team. The two wins coming against a 9-7 Titans team and a 10-6 Seahawks team.

2019: 4-1 with 3 of those wins coming against teams with losing records and the loss coming against a horrible 3-12-1 Lions team. The one win against a winning team was actually against the 13-3 Packers. Not really sure if that game was a testament to Lynn's coaching prowess or more along the lines of even a blind squirrel find and nut every now and then.

2020: 2 and 4 with 0 wins coming against teams with winning records. With the 2 wins coming against two teams that are a combined 1-21 I am not impressed.

You can double check my figures if you like but if what I came up with is correct than out of those 22 wins while leading after 3 quarters the opposing teams have been 126-211-2 record wise. The real pattern I see is that he has done reasonably well against mediocre and bad teams in that department (and overall record) But the flip side is unfortunately being behind after 3 quarters against teams with winning records and a good number of teams with losing records.

I get that you like Lynn and want to believe in his coaching but I can also understand why others on here think he deserves to be fired. Earlier in the season I stated I believed he deserved to get to the end of the season and get judged from there. After yesterday's debacle I am now leaning the other way. If the management wanted to fire him I wouldn't have any problem with it at this point.

[Guest]

Straight lies

When I read that, I thought that he had described the 100% polar opposite of what we have seen this season.

[Critty]

Interesting bit of stats you have there but I wouldn't hang your hat (or Lynn's for that matter) on them. At this point the bottom line is in his stint as the Chargers coach he is still overall sitting at 29-30. As far as those wins after 3 quarters lets break that down a little further.

2017: 8-1 with 6 of those wins coming against teams with losing records and the one loss coming against a 6-10 Dolphins team. The two wins against winning teams came against 9-7 Bills and Cowboys.

2018: 10-1 with 8 of those wins coming against teams with losing records and the one loss coming against a6-10 Broncos team. The two wins coming against a 9-7 Titans team and a 10-6 Seahawks team.

2019: 4-1 with 3 of those wins coming against teams with losing records and the loss coming against a horrible 3-12-1 Lions team. The one win against a winning team was actually against the 13-3 Packers. Not really sure if that game was a testament to Lynn's coaching prowess or more along the lines of even a blind squirrel find and nut every now and then.

2020: 2 and 4 with 0 wins coming against teams with winning records. With the 2 wins coming against two teams that are a combined 1-21 I am not impressed.

You can double check my figures if you like but if what I came up with is correct than out of those 22 wins while leading after 3 quarters the opposing teams have been 126-211-2 record wise. The real pattern I see is that he has done reasonably well against mediocre and bad teams in that department (and overall record) But the flip side is unfortunately being behind after 3 quarters against teams with winning records and a good number of teams with losing records.

I get that you like Lynn and want to believe in his coaching but I can also understand why others on here think he deserves to be fired. Earlier in the season I stated I believed he deserved to get to the end of the season and get judged from there. After yesterday's debacle I am now leaning the other way. If the management wanted to fire him I wouldn't have any problem with it at this point.

Exactly what I thought. The team is not very talented.
When you beat the bad teams but not the good teams. It usually talent/health issue.

It always starts with talent and the best ability is availability.

In baseball, what can a coach do to get more home runs out of the lineup that doesn't have a lot of power hitters.
Tell the GM to get more talent that has more home run power. Then you have a chance to actually improve in that area.
How do you improve the pitching, with coaching? Some yes. But you improve much faster by adding a dominate pitcher to the lineup.
Football is no different. How do you get more accuracy and longer kicks from the current FG kicker. You usually don't with coaching. You want more production, then you need to find a better FG kicker.
There is a reason why the run game gains more yards when Ekeler is in the backfield. He is the best RB on the team. And it best slot reciever after K.Allen.
There is a reason why Herbert throws to Allen so much. He is an elite route runner. Williams is never open. He can't shake anyone off. He is always covered. Tough completions every time.
I think if Justin Tucker was swapped in to replace Badgley, that will really improve the FG kicking, much much much more than any coach ever could. And that helps win games.

Telesco should not escape blame. Matter of fact. This is his 2nd HC during his time. Whether he picked them or not.
Are you really thinking a 3rd HC solves it. I don't. If you are firing people at the end of 2020 seasons. Start with Telelsco.

Throw them both out, Or give them both another year with Herbert.

[powderblueboy]

Interesting bit of stats you have there but I wouldn't hang your hat (or Lynn's for that matter) on them. At this point the bottom line is in his stint as the Chargers coach he is still overall sitting at 29-30. As far as those wins after 3 quarters lets break that down a little further.

2017: 8-1 with 6 of those wins coming against teams with losing records and the one loss coming against a 6-10 Dolphins team. The two wins against winning teams came against 9-7 Bills and Cowboys.

2018: 10-1 with 8 of those wins coming against teams with losing records and the one loss coming against a6-10 Broncos team. The two wins coming against a 9-7 Titans team and a 10-6 Seahawks team.

2019: 4-1 with 3 of those wins coming against teams with losing records and the loss coming against a horrible 3-12-1 Lions team. The one win against a winning team was actually against the 13-3 Packers. Not really sure if that game was a testament to Lynn's coaching prowess or more along the lines of even a blind squirrel find and nut every now and then.

2020: 2 and 4 with 0 wins coming against teams with winning records. With the 2 wins coming against two teams that are a combined 1-21 I am not impressed.

You can double check my figures if you like but if what I came up with is correct than out of those 22 wins while leading after 3 quarters the opposing teams have been 126-211-2 record wise. The real pattern I see is that he has done reasonably well against mediocre and bad teams in that department (and overall record) But the flip side is unfortunately being behind after 3 quarters against teams with winning records and a good number of teams with losing records.

I get that you like Lynn and want to believe in his coaching but I can also understand why others on here think he deserves to be fired. Earlier in the season I stated I believed he deserved to get to the end of the season and get judged from there. After yesterday's debacle I am now leaning the other way. If the management wanted to fire him I wouldn't have any problem with it at this point.

They also beat the Chiefs in 2018: 3 wins against winning teams. All those wins were decided on the last play....just as easily losses.

[dmac_bolt]

Its not talent. Its coaching. Lynn out coached him two of 3 times.

Wasn’t one of those games when they started that backup QB that threw 5 picks? cant remember his name. Ok, that was bad coaching, I’ll give AL the nod on that game.

[Boltjolt]

Exactly what I thought. The team is not very talented.
When you beat the bad teams but not the good teams. It usually talent/health issue.

It always starts with talent and the best ability is availability.

In baseball, what can a coach do to get more home runs out of the lineup that doesn't have a lot of power hitters.
Tell the GM to get more talent that has more home run power. Then you have a chance to actually improve in that area.
How do you improve the pitching, with coaching? Some yes. But you improve much faster by adding a dominate pitcher to the lineup.
Football is no different. How do you get more accuracy and longer kicks from the current FG kicker. You usually don't with coaching. You want more production, then you need to find a better FG kicker.
There is a reason why the run game gains more yards when Ekeler is in the backfield. He is the best RB on the team. And it best slot reciever after K.Allen.
There is a reason why Herbert throws to Allen so much. He is an elite route runner. Williams is never open. He can't shake anyone off. He is always covered. Tough completions every time.
I think if Justin Tucker was swapped in to replace Badgley, that will really improve the FG kicking, much much much more than any coach ever could. And that helps win games.

Telesco should not escape blame. Matter of fact. This is his 2nd HC during his time. Whether he picked them or not.
Are you really thinking a 3rd HC solves it. I don't. If you are firing people at the end of 2020 seasons. Start with Telelsco.

Throw them both out, Or give them both another year with Herbert.

Baseball is Very different. Your can fail two out of three times and be considered a good hitter hitting. 333 (33%) and command millions. Or you can fail three out of four times as a. 250 ( 25%) hitter but hit 30 home runs and command millions.

A pitcher that is barely over a. 500 pitcher is in demand. Hell your can be a part time player (utility guy) and make millions per year and have a longer career.

Some here want Badgley cut because he missed five FGs 77.3%

Very different. But yes, we need more talent. I agree. Fire Telesco

[Critty]

Wasn’t one of those games when they started that backup QB that threw 5 picks? cant remember his name. Ok, that was bad coaching, I’ll give AL the nod on that game.

We don't make excuses for what talent is on the field.
Otherwise we say oh yeah 2020 team has some of the better players not healthy. Where was Derwin James, Ekeler, Turner, Bulaga, Ingram, Harris, Bosa, etc for each game?

People only notice the talent drop.off at QB because he has the ball every snap. There is talent drop off when back ups play at other positions too.