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  • Boltjolt
    Dont let the PBs fool ya
    • Jun 2013
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    Originally posted by Critty View Post

    It is a QB driven league.

    Not a HC driven league.

    Why this was even debated made no sense to me.
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    Then we may as well bring back Gilbride and pay him 500K. Dean saves big there as we dont need a good HC.

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    • Critty
      Dominate the Day.
      • Mar 2019
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      Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

      Then we may as well bring back Gilbride and pay him 500K. Dean saves big there as we dont need a good HC.
      So are we giving Brandon Staley a Craig Whelihan at QB.
      Dean can save even more money.







      Who has it better than us?

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      • Originally posted by Critty View Post
        Daboll has called two terrible games in a row.
        They struggled to find endzone last week and this week. They limited the playbook by being so one dimensional. They made finding easy chuck plays very hard by being so one dimensional. He basically put the entire game on Allen to win it with arm and legs. And didn't have many natural rub routes or any well timed.screen to RBs. And because he abandoned the run game, there was no ability to get any good play action bootlegs going for Allen to make plays. He might as well threw half the play book in the trash. Cheifs do not have a good defense. But they looked very good today because of the awful game plan and play calling.

        ​​​He was hyped by some media and some fans. But it didn't seem like teams with opening at HC spot were lining up to interview him. Wasnt it just the Jets and Chargers that took a sniff and went another direction. I don't recall hearing his name anywhere else.
        It is too bad that in your ignorance you cannot see the difference between poor play calling and poor execution. The play calling was excellent. Buffalo did not waste too many downs gaining very few yards with their anemic ground game. Daboll gave them the best chance to win.

        Daboll's offense was 2nd in the NFL in scoring, but no offensive coordinator is immune from poor execution and Allen played like crap two games in a row.

        Any dispute between Allen versus Herbert is now over. I expect Herbert to be the better QB going forward and certainly better at the same stage of his career as Herbert.

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        • jamrock
          lawyers, guns and money
          • Sep 2017
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          Originally posted by chaincrusher View Post

          It is too bad that in your ignorance you cannot see the difference between poor play calling and poor execution. The play calling was excellent. Buffalo did not waste too many downs gaining very few yards with their anemic ground game. Daboll gave them the best chance to win.

          Daboll's offense was 2nd in the NFL in scoring, but no offensive coordinator is immune from poor execution and Allen played like crap two games in a row.

          Any dispute between Allen versus Herbert is now over. I expect Herbert to be the better QB going forward and certainly better at the same stage of his career as Herbert.
          Not sure why you give Daboll a pass (no pun intended) on the bolded. He's the OC. If they don't have the ability to run effectively at least once in a while, it's on him.

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          • Originally posted by Critty View Post

            No.
            I am not saying run the ball down their throats. Nowhere did I say that.
            I'm saying mix it up better. Take what defense is giving you. If they give you a chance to run on the edge and you don't do that but instead pass into teeth of their defense. You can not win the game like that. But they tried and predictably failed.

            When the Chiefs lose games it is because the other team slows down Mahomes and the offense by not letting them have the ball. Cheifs don't defend the run very well. They gave up 4.5 per carry and almost 2000yds during the season.
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            The Cheifs were 5th in completion percentage allowed. And 10th in QB rate allowed.

            The weakness of Cheifs is run defense. And the game plan was dont run much. Don't mix it up more. Lets go pass happy and try and outgun Mahomes. Talk about losing before you even step out on field. You don't try and outgun Jordan or Kobe or Farve or Marino. You hit them in the mouth. You play keep away and make them get anxious to make a play, you frustrate them. You possess the ball and drive. You beat them up.

            That is how the Cheifs lose games. Teams that try to outgun them, lose the game. You don't have Tyreek or Kelce, you don't have Mahomes. You have Allen and Diggs. Not only do you have less weapons, but you QB isn't as good as their QB. But your going to try and fail.
            just dumb.and arrogant to think you can go one dimensional vs KC and win that way.
            It is great that you get the highlighted point, but you and Anthony Lynn's dumb behind do not get that the best way to keep possession of the ball and burn clock is not by running the ball. It is by getting first downs.

            You also fail to understand Kansas City's defense. They do not have some sort of huge playing level difference between their pass defense and run defense. They finished 17th in YPC against and 14th in YPA against. That is a marginal difference. They are a middle team in terms of performance against both the pass and the run.

            By contrast, on offense, BUF finished 20th in YPC and 20th in rushing yards per game versus finishing 4th in YPA and 3rd in passing yards. They were also without Moss, arguably their best RB. That is a huge difference and that plus the absence of Moss clearly explains why BUF decided to pass more. The relied on their passing game to get first downs, extend drives and keep the ball out of Tyreek Hill's hands.

            BUF used the style of play that led them to 13 wins and it easily could have worked if Allen and the receivers did not all have poor games.

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            • Disco Volante
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              • Mar 2020
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              Originally posted by jamrock View Post

              Not sure why you give Daboll a pass (no pun intended) on the bolded. He's the OC. If they don't have the ability to run effectively at least once in a while, it's on him.
              Buffalo ran the ball fine. It may not have been a traditional running game but it was plenty effective and has nothing to do with why they lost. They lost because the chiefs are better and buffalo kept kicking field goals on 4th and short.

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              • Originally posted by jamrock View Post

                Not sure why you give Daboll a pass (no pun intended) on the bolded. He's the OC. If they don't have the ability to run effectively at least once in a while, it's on him.
                Your view is bizarre. I despised what Lynn and Steichen did for us this season, but not even I blamed them for our inability to run the ball. It is obvious that our personnel are not good at running the ball. The same is true with BUF playing without Moss. Why would that be Daboll's fault?

                Unlike Lynn, Daboll figured out that it was better to do what his team does well, not what it sucks at doing.

                The game plans were dead on the money, but the execution was off two weeks in a row. And with Allen having bad mechanics, that actually should not be too much of a surprise that he might occasionally have some off games. He has come a long way with Daboll, but he was clearly off against both the Ravens and Chiefs.

                Still, the Bills had to try to win with a struggling Allen, which was a small chance, versus trying to win with the running attack, which was a no chance.

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                • Originally posted by Critty View Post

                  It is a QB driven league.

                  Not a HC driven league.

                  Why this was even debated made no sense to me.
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                  Nobody has ever said that the QB position did not matter, but if you think that coaching cannot make the difference between a playoff team and not a playoff team, then you just missed the entire 2020 Los Angeles Chargers season. Nobody, and I mean nobody, can cause games to be lost like Anthony Lynn.

                  As for Brady, he was awful yesterday. His team won in spite of his 3 INTs. His head coach made the call that proved to be the difference in the game by going for it on 4th down at the end of the first half.

                  Brady was arguably Tampa Bay's worst player yesterday.

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                  • powderblueboy
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                    • Jul 2017
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                    Originally posted by Critty View Post

                    So are we giving Brandon Staley a Craig Whelihan at QB.
                    Dean can save even more money.






                    this makes zero sense.

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                    • powderblueboy
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                      • Jul 2017
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                      Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                      Then we may as well bring back Gilbride and pay him 500K. Dean saves big there as we dont need a good HC.
                      Average will do and you can get that anywhere.

                      Can spend the money you save making the lawns nice and lush at Charger park.

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                      • powderblueboy
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                        • Jul 2017
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                        Originally posted by chaincrusher View Post

                        Nobody has ever said that the QB position did not matter, but if you think that coaching cannot make the difference between a playoff team and not a playoff team, then you just missed the entire 2020 Los Angeles Chargers season. Nobody, and I mean nobody, can cause games to be lost like Anthony Lynn.

                        As for Brady, he was awful yesterday. His team won in spite of his 3 INTs. His head coach made the call that proved to be the difference in the game by going for it on 4th down at the end of the first half.

                        Brady was arguably Tampa Bay's worst player yesterday.
                        Rivers throws just one of those interceptions and his team loses, and Topcat cranks up the wise cracks.

                        GOAT plays pitch and catch with the opposing teams dbs in the 2nd half and he's going to Disney land.

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                        • Topcat
                          AKA "Pollcat"
                          • Jan 2019
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                          Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post

                          Rivers throws just one of those interceptions and his team loses, and Topcat cranks up the wise cracks.

                          GOAT plays pitch and catch with the opposing teams dbs in the 2nd half and he's going to Disney land.
                          Okay, if it will make u feel better, here u go:

                          "And once again, Brady slings the rock into coverage for a pick!!!"
                          (but he wins anyway...)

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