Coach Staley Discussion - Fired

[Bolt4Knob]

How much longer until we call it and accept Staley as coach for another week? If they are firing him they need to do it today/tonight so the new coach can do the gameplan and install for the Ravens.

TG

He is not getting fired today as t would have been done already. My guess, unless they are blown out this Sunday night, Staley will be around until Monday January 13.

No rash decisions from the Spanii. Have to see how everything unfolds

[Eurobolt]

He is not getting fired today as t would have been done already. My guess, unless they are blown out this Sunday night, Staley will be around until Monday January 13.

No rash decisions from the Spanii. Have to see how everything unfolds

It will be embarrassing game vs Ravens.

The only hope in Vegas as ppl will bet Baltimore heavily.

[Rambler]

Here is the full transcript from Ian Rappareporter today. Not sure why some of you feel this was influenced or doctored by Staley, Telesco or the Spanos Family

"This one is hard for me because Brandon Staley is a great defensive mind and one of the best defensive coaches in football. He is a real commander out there and the right one to be coaching these players right now. Sooner or later it will express itself on the field, but Staley is a football coaching Jesse. That loss to Green Bay was not the fault of the defense or of Staley and it makes tremendous sense for a competitor to want to compete and call the plays and dictate that defensive backs play crack replace run support 12 yards off the line on third and one. There are premium players on that Packer team like their unproven rookie Wrs, struggling starting QB, 4th string RB who was the only healthy back for much of the game, and the cornerback who replaced Jaire Alexander the whole game. Charger ownership values family, culture, stability. Insert happy birthday to John here."

Masterful parody. You expressed and connected his most frequent sayings, all in one friendly bowl of word salad. Staleyisms for all!

[powderblueboy]

Here is the full transcript from Ian Rappareporter today. Not sure why some of you feel this was influenced or doctored by Staley, Telesco or the Spanos Family

"This one is hard for me because Brandon Staley is a great defensive mind and one of the best defensive coaches in football. He is a real commander out there and the right one to be coaching these players right now. Sooner or later it will express itself on the field, but Staley is a football coaching Jesse. That loss to Green Bay was not the fault of the defense or of Staley and it makes tremendous sense for a competitor to want to compete and call the plays and dictate that defensive backs play crack replace run support 12 yards off the line on third and one. There are premium players on that Packer team like their unproven rookie Wrs, struggling starting QB, 4th string RB who was the only healthy back for much of the game, and the cornerback who replaced Jaire Alexander the whole game. Charger ownership values family, culture, stability. Insert happy birthday to John here."

This is joke report, yes?

[Classic]

He is not getting fired today as t would have been done already. My guess, unless they are blown out this Sunday night, Staley will be around until Monday January 13.

No rash decisions from the Spanii. Have to see how everything unfolds

Anthony Lynn didnt get fired after a 49-0 loss vs Patriots so I doubt a Ravens loss would do it. End of the season will be when he is fired if he is fired at all.

[powderblueboy]

If that came from Spanos which I don't doubt, I think Staley stays and Telesco is out. So Critty would get his wish.

The top extolls Staley, and the bottom part digs into him: 'premium players on the Packers offense like their 4rth string rb and their unproven wide receivers.'

If its Dean Spanos, at least the clown has a sense of humor.

[CanadianBoltFan]

ESPN on Staley - the part below I bolded shows that Staley has actually made the defense he inherited 3 years ago worse than when he got here

This was an old-school sort of loss for the Chargers, the sort of defeat they routinely endured during the worst moments of the Norv Turner and Mike McCoy eras, when they toyed with inferior competition for most of the day before collapsing when things mattered most. Amid a nearly flawless day from quarterback Justin Herbert, who threw for 260 yards and ran for a team-high 73 more, they simply made too many mistakes around their best player to win.

Austin Ekeler fumbled away a carry inside the 5-yard line to take points off the board. Keenan Allen dropped a would-be touchdown pass and another third-down catch that would have given the Chargers no worse than a first-and-goal at the 2-yard line, forcing Cameron Dicker onto the field for two field goals. Donald Parham, starting at tight end for the injured Gerald Everett, dropped a fourth-and-4 conversion that would have extended an early drive. And at the very end, Herbert scrambled and found rookie first-rounder Quinton Johnston streaking downfield for what should have been the winning touchdown, only for Johnston to double-clutch and drop a beautiful throw. Those plays took a minimum of 10 points away from L.A.

Even with those mistakes, the Chargers were still in position to win. After Herbert found Allen for a 10-yard score with 5:29 to go, Los Angeles led by four points. Khalil Mack then strip-sacked Jordan Love on second-and-10, and while the Packers recovered, they were facing a third-and-20 from their own 15-yard line with four minutes to go. All L.A. needed was a third-and-long stop and a couple of first downs on offense to seal a much-needed road victory.

Instead, the Chargers fell apart in record time. Asante Samuel Jr. committed pass interference on the ensuing third-down play against Dontayvion Wicks, giving the Packers a new set of downs. Two plays later, Wicks caught a quick hitch, bounced off a woeful tackle attempt by Michael Davis, ran away from veteran linebacker Eric Kendricks and safety Alohi Gilman and turned what should have been a 5-yard completion into a 35-yard chunk play. Two plays after that, L.A. was late getting lined up at the snap versus an empty formation and was flat-footed as Romeo Doubs ran by quarters coverage for the winning touchdown.

In his postgame news conference, Staley testily responded to a question wondering whether he would stick as the team's playcaller and rued the team's defensive execution on plays that "hijacked their rhythm" while hoping that they would play "cleaner football" and criticizing his team's fundamentals. The whole conversation feels disconnected, as if there's another person running the Chargers whom Staley expects to resolve these issues. He reiterated that he has full confidence in his ability to call plays and his staff's ability to teach, but if his players are making fundamental mistakes in key moments, who does he expect to take the blame? play 1:30 Brandon Staley passionately defends team in testy exchange with reporter

Nearly three years into Staley's tenure, that remains the most damning criticism. This defense simply doesn't play up to the talents of its key players week in and week out. He inherited a defense that ranked 18th in expected points added (EPA) per play. That same defense ranked 26th in 2021, 27th in 2022 and is 27th through 11 weeks by the same metric this season. Staley and general manager Tom Telesco have had three off seasons to import the personnel the former Rams coordinator wants for his roster.

On Sunday, it was the team's homegrown talent that was lacking. Samuel took a terrible angle on a Wicks end-around touchdown and drifted too far outside to make a play on a third-and-12 screen that produced 17 yards. Oft-frustrating 2020 first-round pick Kenneth Murray didn't show enough awareness in coverage to latch onto an over route on second-and-15, which eventually produced a 29-yard gain, and couldn't bring down Tucker Kraft in the flat on a 27-yard reception. Davis badly whiffed on a tackle in the open field against AJ Dillon. Ja'Sir Taylor wasn't able to stay close enough to Jayden Reed to prevent a catch on third-and-12 for a first down. The Chargers repeatedly allowed the Packers to convert when they were behind schedule on offense, often out of sloppy or careless play.

The most important homegrown player on defense wasn't around for most of the game and might not be back anytime soon. Star edge rusher Joey Bosa suffered a foot injury in the first quarter, left the sideline in tears on a cart and did not return. He was spotted later in a walking boot on the sideline, but there's no word on his status. If he's out for any extended period, it would deprive the Chargers of their most important non-Herbert player on the roster.

The failure to build even a competent defense is the strongest piece of evidence against Staley keeping his job into 2024. The arguments against his aggressiveness on fourth down weren't borne out by the actual evidence in 2021 and are now only from people who aren't paying attention, as he's hardly one of the league's more aggressive coaches. (Nobody mentions that aggressiveness when his team scores three touchdowns on three fourth-down calls, as it did a week ago.) His only aggressive decision on fourth down against the Packers was the early fourth-and-4 when Parham dropped what should have been an easy conversion.

If anything, Staley's game management was too conservative Sunday. He punted on a fourth-and-1 from his own 19-yard line in the third quarter, and while that's not an uncommon move for NFL coaches, the NFL Next Gen Stats model suggests he cost his team 4.3 percentage points of win expectancy with the punt. I don't think that the punt caused what happened next, but if we apply the same logic of causation that typically gets applied when Staley does something that is perceived as too aggressive or analytical, consider that the Packers fielded that punt and scored a touchdown to take the lead in five plays.



At 4-6, the Chargers are in 13th place in the AFC. The only saving grace is something he mentioned in the news conference: All seven of their remaining games come against AFC opponents. The Chargers are going to need to get hot and start claiming some tiebreakers to have a shot at working their way into the postseason picture. Last season, a brutal blown lead in the wild-card round led the organization to fire offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi and replace him with Kellen Moore. This season, if they don't even make it into the wild-card round, there will be a real inquest into whether Staley's inability to turn around the defense is holding back Herbert and the rest of the team.

[21&500]

A number of NFL head coaches are on the hot seat as the regular season enters the stretch run. The pressure on Brandon Staley and Ron Rivera certainly is mounting after the Los Angeles Chargers (4-6) and Washington Commanders (4-7) each slid further away from the playoff conversation after losing winnable games Sunday. And the same can be said for Frank Reich, whose Carolina Panthers (1-9) continue to flounder and got blown out by the Dallas Cowboys.

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Over the final seven weeks, owners and team presidents of struggling teams will assess their situations while monitoring the work of the top offensive and defensive coordinators, as well as a few college head coaches. If those teams decide to make a change, they will then form lists of desired candidates to interview.

This year’s crop of head coaching talent is expected to feature a number of familiar names. Some, like Minnesota Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores, have prior head coaching experience. Others, like the Detroit Lions’ Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn, are looking to turn impressive bodies of work as coordinators into promotions.

Here’s a rundown of the top potential candidates on teams’ radars, listed in alphabetical order. Lou Anarumo, defensive coordinator, Cincinnati Bengals


The 57-year-old Anarumo directs a defense that was among the league’s stingiest in points allowed in 2021 and 2022, and he is one of the few defensive minds who knows how to beat the Kansas City Chiefs. Eric Bieniemy, offensive coordinator, Washington Commanders


Bieniemy left Andy Reid and the Chiefs, who all touted him as a future head coach, to prove he could run his own offense. Now with the Commanders, he turned second-year pro Sam Howell into the NFL’s passing yardage leader at the season’s midpoint. Howell did deliver a stinker Sunday, throwing three interceptions, and the Commanders’ seesaw season of disappointment under Rivera continued. However, front-office members around the league still hold Bieniemy in high regard as an offensive mind and leader. Ejiro Evero, defensive coordinator, Carolina Panthers


People around the league began singing Evero’s praises last season for his work as defensive coordinator in Denver. He joined Reich in Charlotte this offseason but is expected to receive head coaching interest in the coming months.
Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores was Dolphins head coach from 2019 to 2021. (Jamie Sabau / USA Today) Brian Flores, defensive coordinator, Minnesota Vikings


The former Miami Dolphins head coach is in his first season as leader of the Vikings defense. Directing the most aggressive squad in the league, Flores’ Vikings have steadily improved after a slow start and held foes to fewer than 20 points in five of their last eight games (they gave up 21 in Sunday night’s loss to the Broncos). As a result, Minnesota is 6-5 and in the NFC playoff hunt.

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Aaron Glenn, defensive coordinator, Detroit Lions


The former All-Pro defensive back has long been viewed as a future head coach and interviewed for positions last season. With the Lions ranking among the best teams in the NFC this season, Glenn will again draw interest. Jim Harbaugh, head coach, University of Michigan


The former NFL quarterback and San Francisco 49ers head coach had interest in the Vikings job in 2022 but never received an offer and remained at his alma mater. Several NFL teams are expected to pursue him this offseason, and it’s believed Harbaugh has interest in at least a couple of those potential openings. Ben Johnson, offensive coordinator, Detroit Lions


The 37-year-old Johnson turned heads last season when, as a rookie play-caller, he helped the Lions’ offense develop into a top-five unit. Johnson withdrew his name from consideration from head-coaching opportunities last offseason to remain with the Lions and now his offense is even better. The Lions are 8-2 after Sunday’s comeback victory over the Bears and his phone will most certainly ring again this offseason.


How Lions OC Ben Johnson stayed one step ahead of Chargers' Brandon Staley Brian Johnson, offensive coordinator, Philadelphia Eagles


The former Utah quarterback helped Jalen Hurts develop into a top-flight QB while serving as his Eagles position coach. Now in his first season as offensive coordinator, Johnson has Philly’s offense ranked among the top three in the league in yards and points. Kellen Moore, offensive coordinator, L.A. Chargers


Moore drew head coaching interest while offensive coordinator of the Cowboys. This offseason he joined the Chargers, who continue to struggle in late-game situations, placing Staley’s job security in doubt. Moore, however, remains an intriguing potential head coaching candidate in the eyes of the NFL’s highest-ranking talent evaluators.

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Raheem Morris, defensive coordinator, L.A. Rams


The former Tampa Bay Buccaneers head coach, Atlanta Falcons interim head coach and longtime defensive coordinator helped the Rams win the Super Bowl to cap the 2021 season and has drawn interest from teams in recent years. He’s expected to again interview for positions this offseason. Antonio Pierce, interim head coach, Las Vegas Raiders


The former Pro Bowl linebacker and nine-year veteran guided the Raiders to back-to-back wins after taking over for the fired Josh McDaniels. They lost 20-13 to the Miami Dolphins on Sunday, but Pierce has a shot at the permanent head coaching job if the Raiders can finish strong in the final weeks.
At 7-3, defensive coordinator Dan Quinn and the Cowboys are one of the NFC’s top teams. (Jason Parkhurst / USA Today) Dan Quinn, defensive coordinator, Dallas Cowboys


Quinn was the Falcons’ head coach for five-plus seasons, with one Super Bowl appearance. His Cowboys units have ranked among the best in the league the last three seasons and this year rank top five in yards, points and third downs. Steve Wilks, defensive coordinator, San Francisco 49ers


The longtime coordinator is regarded as one of the best defensive minds in the game, and many believed he deserved the Panthers’ head coaching job after turning that team around as the interim last season. A deep playoff run for the 49ers could translate into a head coaching job for Wilks. Bonus: Bobby Slowik, offensive coordinator, Houston Texans


He’s in just his first season as a play-caller, so it may be a bit premature, but Slowik will receive some consideration for head coaching positions this hiring cycle. Everybody is looking for the next bright offensive mind, and the 36-year-old Slowik — the latest impressive Mike Shanahan/Kyle Shanahan disciple — fits the bill because of his success with C.J. Stroud and the surprisingly competitive Texans. He’s also the son of former NFL defensive coordinator Bob Slowik. Bobby Slowik likely will have to wait at least another cycle to actually land a head coaching gig, but Kyle Shanahan’s former right-hand man in San Francisco following Mike McDaniel’s departure is coming.

[Boltjolt]

He is not getting fired today as t would have been done already. My guess, unless they are blown out this Sunday night, Staley will be around until Monday January 13.

No rash decisions from the Spanii. Have to see how everything unfolds

We could lose every game here on out and then he will be fired after the season.

[AFboltfan]

This season, if they don't even make it into the wild-card round, there will be a real inquest into whether Staley's inability to turn around the defense is holding back Herbert and the rest of the team.

That goes without saying and should be blatantly obvious truth.

[Boltgang74]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cz4Lfcxxec8/?igshid=MzY1NDJmNzMyNQ==

[Boltgang74]

This guy gets it.The fuckin Spanos are cheap assholes.If they don't hire a real friggin coach for Herbert and us fans then we should all boycott em.#FUCKSPANOS