Coach Staley Discussion - Fired

[jamrock]

At that years Senior Bowl, Zion received a lot of praise, from diverse NFL sources.
Flash forward to now.
Is the problem bad drafting, or bad player development ?
Forest Lamp, Dan Feeney, Max Tuerk...same.
We are getting killed by the fact that we cannot run the football.
It is mostly 20-20 hindsight to now say that we draft poorly.
If we fire Telesco (and we should now) it will be for having uncanny shitty luck.

It’s both. But even if it’s just bad player development, TT has to go because he has to bear responsibility for the HC and staff.

[dmac_bolt]

It’s both. But even if it’s just bad player development, TT has to go because he has to bear responsibility for the HC and staff.

exactly. Regardless of the cause(s), TT is responsible for all of them. Coaches = TT. Players = TT. Pre-game Buffet = TT. he's had dozens of draft picks and 3 head coaches, he does not have the formula.

Firing TT and Firing BS are not mutually exclusive - each must be evaluated to their responsibilities and results. Both fail the test imo.

I understand Critty's coaching carousel concern but that is all hindsight at this point - we cannot ignore what we see from Staley and his staff. Staley was brought in to deliver a top defense, he failed. On the other side, he also personally hired his two OCs; both OCs have not delivered to the level we expect or need. They accumulate stats here n there but when games are on the line, they have failed too often.

The team has not improved over the course of the season - they have gotten worse. From what I hear of last Sunday - it was one of the worst games played in 3 yrs, players don't appear to believe in the team, its plans and methods, or its ability to win. Staley has lost the team whether the players admit it publicly or not. He has to be replaced.

TT owns all of Staley plus all of the roster. Doesnt matter which portion of failure to each. Its all TT on the Org Chart.

[PowderBill]

Spagnoulo's head coaching record is 11-41. Do you really want to take a risk on that ala Norv Turner???

Spaghetti was an absolute disaster as a HC

[Bolt4Knob]

Spaghetti was an absolute disaster as a HC

Not the best situation to be sure but if you give me these names

Ben Johnson
Bobby Slowik
the Ravens DC
Spagnuolo
Clapper Garrett
Jim Schwartz

I am picking the last 3 over the first three

[wu-dai clan]

jamrock
dmac_bolt

Time to hit the ol'
reset button eh ?

[Heatmiser]

Please I hope Jason Garrett is not even on the interview list. Please. He is Norv 2.0.

This is like asking Michael Scott to hire Toby as his HR leader for me.

TG

[jamrock]

jamrock
dmac_bolt

Time to hit the ol'
reset button eh ?

Without a doubt.

[Bolt4Knob]

Please I hope Jason Garrett is not even on the interview list. Please. He is Norv 2.0.

This is like asking Michael Scott to hire Toby as his HR leader for me.

TG

Have you looked at Norval Eugene's record as coach of the Chargers? He was 59-43

Thats not that bad. And just for context - I only am suggesting I prefer Garrett to those first timer names. And Garrett did have a very good record, winning % (85-67 overall) , similar to Norv and he worked for Jerry Jones. That said, Garrrett is far down the list

Harbaugh, Hoodie and Quinn are my top 3
Bisaccia and Bieniemy are next tier

[captaind]

No vote of confidence from Derwin

https://twitter.com/alexinsdorf99/st...4BrrXe6U-h5bEA

Derwin - like Staley - is “getting better every day.”

They deserve each other.

[captaind]

Bienemy is my prediction.

Not preference, but prediction.

[CanadianBoltFan]

Spaghetti was an absolute disaster as a HC

NO defensive head coach hire. Period.

You have 262 million invested in Justin Herbert. FFS do the smart thing.

[CanadianBoltFan]

Have you looked at Norval Eugene's record as coach of the Chargers? He was 59-43

Thats not that bad. And just for context - I only am suggesting I prefer Garrett to those first timer names. And Garrett did have a very good record, winning % (85-67 overall) , similar to Norv and he worked for Jerry Jones. That said, Garrrett is far down the list

Harbaugh, Hoodie and Quinn are my top 3
Bisaccia and Bieniemy are next tier

That is very misleading. I HATED the Norv hire. He was given the keys to a 14-2 team that had the most talent in the NFL at that time, and he led them towards mediocrity and under achievement...other than ONE playoff run.