Five reasons im optimistic about the Chargers.

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  • Steve
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    #25
    I'm not sure Jones is going to be much of a NFL pass rusher either. I know he made a lot of sacks in college, which is even more amazing since he didn't rush the QB on every down, they asked him to drop and play inside some. So he is incredibly productive in terms of his sacks.

    My knock on him is that he is like Mingo as a rusher. He runs around OT or just waits until he squirms lose from the OT, then just chases the QB down. He doesn't do a good job of shedding college OL when they block him, and he doesn't really have any inside or counter moves as a pass rusher.

    Jones has been used as a classic, read and react type of LB at Georgia and he at least made a lot of plays in pursuit. Forced fumbles, int, deflected passes. I would be willing to gamble with him as a pass rushing LB, because even if he is a bust in that respect, you can use him as a ILB or a coverage LB and he still has the potential to make a lot of plays for you. In fact, watching him, I think he was the best true LB in all of college last year, although it is hard to compare him to Teo, since Jones is not the same sort of downhill, inside run stuffer. But play him as a WILB in the 34 or a 43 Will OLB where he can chase down ball carriers and strip the ball, and I think he could still be excellent.

    Mingo has never been used except as a 43 DE, and doesn't even seem to find the ball well as a DL, let alone when he has a chance to see what is happening around him. He can run plays down, but he didn't appear to find the ball that well to me. He always looked like he was playing for the big sack, even if the other team wasn't in obvious passing situations. That and his production is disappointing. You want to see a guy get a lot of sacks, but LSU basically plays the entire season (except against Alabama) with a lead, so he had even more obvious pass rush chances then most DE. And unlike many premiere rush guys, he wasn't going against LT, he played LDE in the LSU D, so he went against the (generally) less capable RT. So he should have had lots of chances to pad his sack stats, yet didn't. He may still be a premiere player in the NFL. Guys do develop and Mingo has the tools. But do you use a top 10 pick on that big a project? Just seems a little high risk to me. Not against projects, just do it a little later.

    But a couple of scouts gave quotes before the draft this year and pointed out, there have been all these SEC DL and OLB types coming into the NFL the last few years, how many of them have produced?
    Last edited by Steve; 06-28-2013, 08:47 AM.

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    • Formula 21
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      #26
      I look forward to seeing which of the rooks has the most sacks this year. I like the speed/quick first step guys.
      Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
      The Wasted Decade is done.
      Build Back Better.

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      • oneinchpunch
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        #27
        Rotoworld:


        Philip Rivers is scheduled to count $15 million against the Chargers' salary cap in 2014.
        His '14 base salary will be $13.8 million. With San Diego changing its offense under new overseers Mike McCoy and Ken Whisenhunt, 31-year-old Rivers is likely facing a make-or-break season in San Diego. He's been intercepted 35 times the past two years -- just four fewer than Mark Sanchez. Behind a still-brutal offensive line, we don't envision a bounce-back 2013 season for Rivers.
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        • MakoShark
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          #28
          Wow. The writer was supposed to list 5 reasons for optimism and all 5 were about the Oline. Says a lot about a part of the game AJ ignored during his tenure. Oline or bust!
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          • oneinchpunch
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            #29
            Originally posted by MakoShark View Post
            Wow. The writer was supposed to list 5 reasons for optimism and all 5 were about the Oline. Says a lot about a part of the game AJ ignored during his tenure. Oline or bust!

            Five Reasons I'm Optimistic About the San Diego Chargers Offensive Line By Richard Wade
            Five Reasons I'm Pessimistic About the San Diego Chargers Offensive Line By Richard Wade
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            • Stinky Wizzleteats+
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              #30
              Lets list five reasons to be appathetic and this years Chargers! Thats were im at...
              Go Rivers!

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                #31
                Originally posted by Stinky Wizzleteats+ View Post
                Lets list five reasons to be appathetic and this years Chargers! Thats were im at...
                #1 Failed expectations
                Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
                The Wasted Decade is done.
                Build Back Better.

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                • Stinky Wizzleteats+
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                  #32
                  #2 untimely turnovers/penalties that are best discribed as a gift with wrapping paper and a bow.
                  Go Rivers!

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                  • Mister Hoarse
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                    #33
                    Originally posted by Formula Two One View Post
                    #1 Failed expectations
                    What kind of expectations do most people expect?
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                    • oneinchpunch
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                      #34
                      Originally posted by Mister Hoarse View Post
                      What kind of expectations do most people expect?
                      My expectations are better than most.
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                      • Mister Hoarse
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                        #35
                        Originally posted by oneinchpunch View Post
                        My expectations are better than most.
                        Most expected. If fact, I most expect that most expected you to say that.
                        Dean Spanos Should Get Ass Cancer Of The Ass!
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                          #36
                          Originally posted by oneinchpunch View Post
                          My opinions are better than most.
                          Fixed it!
                          Go Rivers!

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