LAC at KCC Game Week 3 Discussion

[Velo]

Even before his fumble, Clyde Edwards-Helaire was having an ugly season

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/09/25/even-before-his-fumble-clyde-edwards-helaire-was-having-an-ugly-season/

Posted by Michael David Smith on September 25, 2021, 7:07 AM EDT

After Chiefs running back Clyde Edwards-Helaire lost a fumble that sealed the Chiefs’ loss to the Ravens on Sunday Night Football, Patrick Mahomes told him not to let one play define him. Unfortunately, Edwards-Helaire’s problems go far beyond one play.

In fact, even aside from that fumble, there’s no running back in football having a worse season than Edwards-Helaire.

Edwards-Helaire has 30 touches this year (27 rushing attempts and three catches), and zero first downs. That’s an astonishingly bad statistic; no other running back in the NFL is close. It’s almost impossible to get the ball that much and never pick up a first down.

The advanced stats at FootballOutsiders.com rank Edwards-Helaire dead last among all running backs in the league, both in his total production and his per-play efficiency. The FootballOutsiders.com stats also rank the Chiefs first in the NFL in passing offense but 30th in rushing offense.

The Chiefs used their first-round draft pick on Edwards-Helaire last season. They need a whole lot more from him than they’ve been getting.

[Formula 21]

Even before his fumble, Clyde Edwards-Helaire was having an ugly season

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/09/25/even-before-his-fumble-clyde-edwards-helaire-was-having-an-ugly-season/

Posted by Michael David Smith on September 25, 2021, 7:07 AM EDT

After Chiefs running back Clyde Edwards-Helaire lost a fumble that sealed the Chiefs’ loss to the Ravens on Sunday Night Football, Patrick Mahomes told him not to let one play define him. Unfortunately, Edwards-Helaire’s problems go far beyond one play.

In fact, even aside from that fumble, there’s no running back in football having a worse season than Edwards-Helaire.

Edwards-Helaire has 30 touches this year (27 rushing attempts and three catches), and zero first downs. That’s an astonishingly bad statistic; no other running back in the NFL is close. It’s almost impossible to get the ball that much and never pick up a first down.

The advanced stats at FootballOutsiders.com rank Edwards-Helaire dead last among all running backs in the league, both in his total production and his per-play efficiency. The FootballOutsiders.com stats also rank the Chiefs first in the NFL in passing offense but 30th in rushing offense.

The Chiefs used their first-round draft pick on Edwards-Helaire last season. They need a whole lot more from him than they’ve been getting.

No need for CEH to worry. Dr Chargers is coming to town to fix what ails him.

[Velo]

No need for CEH to worry. Dr Chargers is coming to town to fix what ails him.

I can just see both sides: CEH and the Chiefs OC salivating at the chance to take a run at the Chargers porous rush defense. And the Chargers defense and DC Hill salivating at the chance to play a poor running game to prove they can shut down the run.

[sonorajim]

We have K9 to stop the run. He needs to play smarter, tackle better. I've longed for a Mike Singletary. Murray has the physical tools to be that guy. Unfortunately K9's processing speed isn't. Hopefully coach can figure out some keys that work for him.

That aside, run D stats aren't our biggest problem, by a long shot.
Red Zone Offense is #1.
Committing penalties, play discipline #2.
Run D #3.

[powderblueboy]

Psychological must win. KC has been the mountain in our division. Can we finally reach the top? Will be the difference between walking into SoFi on Monday night next week with swagger or desperation

I don't think so.
Winning in KC against an average Chief's team is hard enough.

A blow out loss will be a bad sign.

[sonorajim]

I can just see both sides: CEH and the Chiefs OC salivating at the chance to take a run at the Chargers porous rush defense. And the Chargers defense and DC Hill salivating at the chance to play a poor running game to prove they can shut down the run.

One great way to slow down the run?
Score points! Make drives that end with TDs.
Make 'em throw to try to keep up..

[CivilBolt]

No need for CEH to worry. Dr Chargers is coming to town to fix what ails him.

Same with backup QBs. We make them look like all-pro at times :tongue:

[Velo]

One great way to slow down the run?
Score points! Make drives that end with TDs.
Make 'em throw to try to keep up..

Spot on.

[blueman]

Spot on.

This is the way.

[like54ninjas]

We have K9 to stop the run. He needs to play smarter, tackle better. I've longed for a Mike Singletary. Murray has the physical tools to be that guy. Unfortunately K9's processing speed isn't. Hopefully coach can figure out some keys that work for him.

That aside, run D stats aren't our biggest problem, by a long shot.
Red Zone Offense is #1.
Committing penalties, play discipline #2.
Run D #3.

K9 will play better as he gets more reps/experience. This is 3rd D in # years and Staley’s is complex. He is a driven football junkie with incredible physical traits. Murray will figure it out.
Even playing not ideally he’s on pace for about 140 TKLs

[dmac_bolt]

We have K9 to stop the run. He needs to play smarter, tackle better. I've longed for a Mike Singletary. Murray has the physical tools to be that guy. Unfortunately K9's processing speed isn't. Hopefully coach can figure out some keys that work for him.

That aside, run D stats aren't our biggest problem, by a long shot.
Red Zone Offense is #1.
Committing penalties, play discipline #2.
Run D #3.

Ive been hoping for a Patrick Willis

[Xenos]

This is unfortunate. I guess we’re lucky KC isn’t really a running team.