Browns @ Chargers Game Day Thread / Post Game Discussion (Wk 5)

[UglyTruth]

Not to take away from Coach Staley, but those decisions to go for it on 4th down are a lot easier when you have Justin Herbert as your QB and Keenan Allen, Jared Cook, Mike Williams and Austin Ekeler available to you as weapons.

Coach Lynn had those same weapons last season and hardly ever went for it.

[UglyTruth]

Everybody loves Staley and his 4th downs. Until he doesn't make one. Then the gnashing of teeth and flapping of gums will start.

TG

I think it’s expected he won’t remain 100% conversion the whole season but honestly as long as it’s a respectable % then it’s worth doing it.

They have won games so far due to that aggression so even if they lose a few, they shouldn’t just avoid it or go away from it.

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

Show me all the in-season trades Chargers have made then under Telesco…

Throw insults in the trash and use facts. It makes your argument much stronger.

If you feel insulted by being referenced as "Eeyore" after a pessimistic post, then you're a little thin skinned for a football forum! You can save that kind of pouting for when someone calls you a putz, moron, a-hole, etc. But 'Eeyore'?!? <Gasp!> The indignity of it all! <faint!> No need to go all 'snowflake' on us.

The point isn't that Telesco has made tons on in-season trades. The point is that the lack of in-season trades doesn't mean the season is doomed, as you were implying. Maybe if I call you Mister Eeyore, you'll feel more respected. lol

[Velo]

Coach Lynn had those same weapons last season and hardly ever went for it.

Lynn thought Herbert should remain a backup.

[Bolt4Knob]

Everybody loves Staley and his 4th downs. Until he doesn't make one. Then the gnashing of teeth and flapping of gums will start.

TG

Going on 4th down is building an attitude. He is not going to make them all

But if he doesn't go for it on 4th down at his 24 -the Chargers probably will be down 17 or 21 points as the Browns offense was rolling. The Chargers needed to go for it there

Its not always going to work - going on 4th down. But punting and hoping to get a stop doesn't either

[Bolt4Knob]

Hell yeah. We have extra day three picks (or we will) so why not use some!

Technically the Chargers do not have any extra three day picks - yet. Comp picks are not announced until like March or April of next year

That said - the Chargers should get a few picks like you said - so yet, Telesco with is cap space and draft picks - should be - and I have said in another thread

calling about Norwell from teh Jags
possibly Brockers from the Lions
Cannon from the Texans
Patterson from the Falcons - he is going to cost the most as his contract is dirt cheap - Falcons will probably get a 4th for him, at worst a 5th

[powderblueboy]

Im not sure he would be a trade target with age/contract but a 6th is plus compensation for the Lions.

Chargers might wait a bit, and see how things play out when Jones returns,
& Joseph still has a physical presence,
but Covington is not someone you want to play more than 8 snaps in a game;
and although Tillery was not getting blown up, you'd prefer to rotate him in on passing downs.
The rest are literally practice squad guys.

Staley's schemes were part of the problem; at times it seemed like wedge plays where the Browns brought too many blockers for the defenders to handle

In any case, the Colts 2006 run D was horrible and they brought in Anthony McFarland via trade with Tampa who settled things down.

Telesco, i'm sure remembers that.

[powderblueboy]

Everybody loves Staley and his 4th downs. Until he doesn't make one. Then the gnashing of teeth and flapping of gums will start.

TG

It will probably take two or three unsuccessful 4rth downs, before the wailing, the gnashing of teeth, the pouring of sand over our heads.

The first unsuccessful 4rth down will get a huh? followed by an i'm good with that, soldier on reaction.

[Hadl2Alworth]

Chargers might wait a bit, and see how things play out when Jones returns,
& Joseph still has a physical presence,
but Covington is not someone you want to play more than 8 snaps in a game;
and although Tillery was not getting blown up, you'd prefer to rotate him in on passing downs.
The rest are literally practice squad guys.

Staley's schemes were part of the problem; at times it seemed like wedge plays where the Browns brought too many blockers for the defenders to handle

In any case, the Colts 2006 run D was horrible and they brought in Anthony McFarland via trade with Tampa who settled things down.

Telesco, i'm sure remembers that.

When is the trade deadline?

[Topcat]

Coach Lynn had those same weapons last season and hardly ever went for it.

And if Lynn DID go for it on 4th down, it was usually the good old predictable "run the rock up the gut for nada"...ugh...

[Bolt4Knob]

It will probably take two or three unsuccessful 4rth downs, before the wailing, the gnashing of teeth, the pouring of sand over our heads.

The first unsuccessful 4rth down will get a huh? followed by an i'm good with that, soldier on reaction.

The team will fail on 4th down in a game this year and they might not win that game

But I think Staley is also building an attitude that going for 2 or going on 4th down is not a moment where the heart rate increases and the team might panic. This team is learning to play in those moments.

[powderblueboy]

If you feel insulted by being referenced as "Eeyore" after a pessimistic post, then you're a little thin skinned for a football forum! You can save that kind of pouting for when someone calls you a putz, moron, a-hole, etc. But 'Eeyore'?!? <Gasp!> The indignity of it all! <faint!> No need to go all 'snowflake' on us.

The point isn't that Telesco has made tons on in-season trades. The point is that the lack of in-season trades doesn't mean the season is doomed, as you were implying. Maybe if I call you Mister Eeyore, you'll feel more respected. lol

i've never met anyone who is entirely comfortable with deprecating references Quack.