Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Chargers At Ravens Pre Game Discussion (Wk 6)

Collapse
X
Collapse
First Prev Next Last
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post

    In retrospect, the designation is stupid.
    It is curious, for sure. But if who we protect on our practice squad is the biggest complaint we have as fans, we are doing pretty well!

    TG
    Like, how am I a traitor? Your team are traitors.

    Comment


    • Originally posted by UglyTruth View Post

      Your disagreeing on the definition of injury prone. Injury prone quite literally just means a player that’s frequently injured. It doesn’t matter how the injuries happened.

      And this isn’t my opinion, it’s the actual dictionary definition.
      They should revise that and add “noncontact” somewhere.

      Comment


      • Originally posted by UglyTruth View Post

        Your disagreeing on the definition of injury prone. Injury prone quite literally just means a player that’s frequently injured. It doesn’t matter how the injuries happened.

        And this isn’t my opinion, it’s the actual dictionary definition.
        For years, a guy walks a mile from home to where he works, every day. Three days per week, he gets robbed along the way.

        You'd tell me that he's Robbery Prone. I'd tell you he lives in a really, really bad area.

        We just look at it differently.

        Comment


        • Originally posted by Parcells View Post
          Jason Moore? Did he need to be protected? Was he on anybody’s radar?

          Maybe not, but Williams was listed as a DNP on Wednesday's injury report. This may just be a hedge in case he can't go.

          Comment


          • Comment


            • Originally posted by Ghost of Quacksaw View Post

              You missed the point. Not even CLOSE to *every* injury is a "freak accident". Some bodies break down under the stress of NFL abuse constantly. Others are more durable. Jason Verrett tore his ACL four times making ordinary tackles that most NFLers survive intact on a regular basis.

              Malcom Floyd's body didn't break down under the usual wear-and-tear conditions. Late in his career, he got hit under the chin by an opponent's helmet and sprained his neck. Having personal fouls committed against you is different from being injury prone.
              He may just be unlucky. What I love about Tranquil when we first drafted him was how dedicated he was to his craft, even in things like injury prevention. See article below. Just shows you how it is in the NFL sometimes.
              https://theathletic.com/610144/2018/...hest-opponent/

              SOUTH BEND, Ind. — The work starts Sunday when Drue Tranquill flips his football calendar, usually well before Notre Dame’s supposed 24-hour rule allows it. That’s the internal clock Brian Kelly wants players to keep, granting them the time to either celebrate success or ruminate on failure, before flushing both. It all comes with a hard stop, which is sort of the point.

              Tranquill needs no such contrivances because he has a very real schedule to keep, a literal process that gets him from the final gun to the next kickoff. His recovery regimen is not the reason why Tranquill leads Notre Dame in solo tackles or why he’s been able to come back from ACL reconstructions in both knees while playing three positions.

              But it is a critical piece of the puzzle that has helped him thrive as a two-time captain and future NFL linebacker while being one of the first engineering graduates from the football program in nearly 20 years.

              “I would think he rates up there with the top guys that I’ve coached relative to nutrition, hydration, seven days a week,” Kelly said. “It’s a lifestyle for him more so. Generally you see that from much more mature professional athletes.”

              In that way, Tranquill’s recovery work represents something of a conundrum for Notre Dame in the sense that he’s an aspirational model but not one anybody could be expected to re-create. That’s because there just aren’t enough hours in the day to do it. There weren’t when Tranquill was still in the engineering school, designing concept cars and studying materials to improve nursing home flooring. This semester his course load is light enough for a Music and Worship course.

              Tranquill now spends 10 to 12 hours on recovery every week while maintaining a militant eight-hour sleep schedule. That doesn’t account for practice, meetings or film sessions. Run into Tranquill outside of regular interviews and he’ll arrive with a gallon jug to assist hydration. During team victory dinners on Sunday nights, Tranquill skips dessert. The sleep, diet and hydration make Tranquill unique. But it’s that recovery routine that sets the linebacker apart.

              “It’s tough,” Tranquill said. “If you really want to be a pro about it, it’s tough to do with your class load.”

              Tranquill is religious enough with his schedule that he canceled on interviews for ABC’s television crew in advance of the Wake Forest game last month. Every day has a recovery item, and that chain can’t be broken for Tranquill to peak Saturday, when he’s already logged nearly 500 snaps and has played the past three games with a broken left hand.

              Getting there starts with a 30-minute deep-tissue massage on Sunday from specialists contracted by the university. If there’s enough time for Tranquill to do a double session, he will. The Sunday group of players seeking massages pushes three dozen.

              “It’s painful,” Tranquill said. “It doesn’t feel good. But it gets all the knots out. It gets the blood circulation through my muscles to help relieve any aches.”

              After the massage, Tranquill will enter the float tank for an hour session. Notre Dame has just one Revolution Float Orb situated in the aquatics training room. It’s a $30,000 device that takes roughly one thousand pounds of Epsom salt and simulates weightlessness while mimicking REM sleep.

              “If I don’t have any nagging injuries from the game that I need to get treated, I’ll hop in the float tank and that will kind of help rejuvenate my central nervous system,” Tranquill said. “And if I’m really feeling sore, I’ll do some contrast, hop in the ice bath, hot, cold, some contrast to finish it off.”

              Monday’s recovery is more in the weight room, Tranquill working to flush muscle groups. More ice bath and hot tub contrast usually follows to keep inflammation down. If Tranquill can get another hour in the float tank, he’ll usually take it. On top of that, he’ll work muscle groups aside from the major ones.

              “We don’t do a great job of activating our glutes or our hips or smaller muscle groups that tend to not fire and tend to get dominated by muscle groups by your quads and your hamstring,” Tranquill said. “A lot of rehab is focused on when you have a knee injury, working muscle groups that you don’t normally activate to help support those areas. That’s important in terms of how you play on the field and how you move. When you use those muscle groups you’re a lot more powerful, you can accelerate a lot better.”

              Notre Dame’s practice schedule ramps up Tuesday and Wednesday, which necessitates a different kind of recovery at midweek. Tranquill will seek out another deep-tissue massage on Wednesday post-practice, this one focused on his legs coming back from the heavy lifting of game-plan installation. Where the Sunday massage session draws a crowd, the Wednesday one does not, limited to Tranquill and a few others despite mass availability.

              More ice baths follow, too.

              Beyond those conventional recovery methods, Tranquill adds acoustic wave therapy to his routine to help tendonitis in both repaired knees. Laser work also is part of the schedule, which amounts to light therapy that stimulates cell regeneration and decreases pain.

              Tranquill’s process maximizes Notre Dame’s recent investments in recovery, ones that should expand after the completion of the nearly $50 million new indoor practice facility next year. Preliminary ideas are in process to build onto the Gug, expanding availability to some of the recovery techniques Tranquill is using.

              “If you just look at the things we’ve tried to do — recovery room, float tanks, massage therapy, cold tubs, nutrition, all of those things — it’s the battle of how you can stay just ahead of the needle relative to recovery,” Kelly said. “I think that’s not necessarily just here, but some of the schools that are really on a tightrope as it relates to the load that they have in the classroom.”

              Tranquill closes the week with “Feel Good Friday,” a wild card of treatments that he’ll use to fit the pains of that week. But Tranquill finishes his routine the same way regardless of what’s come before it, drawing a low-tech Epsom salt bath at the team hotel that night. Usually he lets roommate Asmar Bilal go first. Other teammates have adopted that part of the routine, too.

              “I get the eucalyptus Epsom salt. I love that smell,” Tranquill said. “It’s kind of a tradition. Asmar has his bath and later I’ll go and do mine. I kind of introduced him to it last year. Te’von (Coney) did it. Shaun Crawford did it. They all started taking my salt and I was like, ‘What the heck? Go buy your own.’ ”

              Maybe imitation is the sincerest form of recovery.

              But good luck keeping up with Notre Dame’s master of that process.

              Comment


              • I view the makeup of the Ravens offense as very similar to the Chiefs. They have a mobile QB that can throw dimes, a speedy WR and a very good TE. So I'm thinking, the defensive plan that worked in the chiefs game should work in this game. Invite them to run and take away the speedy WR and TE and we will be able to outscore them.
                Surprise us with a Super Bowl win!

                Comment


                • There are lots of similarities. Lot of eye candy, misdirection, motion to confuse the defense. Skill positions not nearly as good as Chiefs but are more like poor man's versions, which is still pretty good. Mahomes is the better passer and processor while Jackson is the better runner/scrambler. Both teams have great coaching and can adapt very well, especially offensively. Both have superior special teams. Oh and both have great home crowds. There wont be 40% Charger fans in the stands.

                  TG
                  Like, how am I a traitor? Your team are traitors.

                  Comment


                  • Originally posted by Heatmiser View Post
                    There are lots of similarities. Lot of eye candy, misdirection, motion to confuse the defense. Skill positions not nearly as good as Chiefs but are more like poor man's versions, which is still pretty good. Mahomes is the better passer and processor while Jackson is the better runner/scrambler. Both teams have great coaching and can adapt very well, especially offensively. Both have superior special teams. Oh and both have great home crowds. There wont be 40% Charger fans in the stands.

                    TG
                    Agree with both Roo and Heat
                    Ravens present a tremendouse challenge. Andrews and Hollywood are such good targets for Lamar
                    And Lamar - like Staley said is a very unique player in the NFL
                    Special Teams with Koch and of course Tucker

                    Defense is always going to be a positive with Wink Martindale
                    Ravens vision from Front Office to Coaching staff is so in sync. The Ravens know the players they want

                    Plus, Baltimore seems like a great place to play - near the harbor, good home crowd
                    Its a very good test for the Chargers. Better this week than in Late November or December

                    Comment


                    • Think we all are going to need the bye week after Baltimore.

                      Comment


                      • Originally posted by TexanBeerlover View Post
                        Think we all are going to need the bye week after Baltimore.
                        I know it is only Game 6 so still 11 games, almost 2/3 of the season - but yes, a good time for the bye
                        some big wins with KC, Raiders and Browns
                        injuries - hopefully Justin and Murray are back post bye

                        Comment


                        • The football gods in Jo Ja feel that I need to see the KC / Washington game and not the Chargers. I tried to do a stream for the first time last week with no success. I kept being asked for a subscription and yes I found it under Streams 1 link above. Anybody got any easier ways to go about this? I'd like to stay home and watch it if at all possible.

                          Comment

                          Working...
                          X